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Final Presidential Debate

Who Is Going To Take Home The Gold Tonight?

  • John Kerry

    Votes: 39 59.1%
  • George Bush

    Votes: 11 16.7%
  • Not Sure

    Votes: 2 3.0%
  • Don't Care

    Votes: 5 7.6%
  • Annessa

    Votes: 9 13.6%

  • Total voters
    66

banshie

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BiggieE said:
Bill Clinton...8 Years of NOTHING....
How about balanced budgets? Is that nothing to you?

Oh and Monica got something too!
 

banshie

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I like the results of our poll better than the ones coming out of the U.S. Sometimes I wish Canada would just join the U.S. Then you would never see a bozo like Bush in the White House again!
 

danmand

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yychobbyist said:
But then we could have a bozo like Jean Chretien in power...
The bozo kept us out of Iraq and saved Canada's reputation in the world.

PS: and he got Black to denounce his canadian citizenship.
 

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I thought it was interesting that everytime Bush didn't have a solid response to a question, he would float back to his 'eduction program' (can't remember the name of it).

Kerry picked that one apart early on, but Bush kept going back to it, like it was all he had up his sleeve at the time.

Ms W.
 

Garrett

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I think when Bush debated Gore... did did a good job coming across as a simple, plain spoken person... now he seems like a desperate used car salesman watching the deal slip from his hands...
 

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Kathleen said:
Four more years....
Four more years....

Agree or not, is has a ring to it. Good debate. I would see it 2-1 for Kerry. I was watching on and off between innings of the ball game.
I still feel Kerry, though the better pick with the US finances, lacks the grit for national safety. Kerry showed a ton of class toward Bush with the compliment about post 911. I also liked seeing Kerry show a sense of humor.
Bush, I feel lost at the debate, he seemed nervous at times. I feel it bad, but not huge Kerry suggested Bush never met with the Black congress when in fact he had twice.

Bush to me is still the better choice, and will make up ground through campaign. It will be a close race, no question.

Kathleen
He did say Kathleen that he met with the Black congress at the White House by why is it he couldn't say who? We are in the year of 2004 and slavery has been abolished for many decades now, So for me and other Black American citizens watching an instant ringer went off in my head as I thought "Who did he see? What is his or her name?" to me it's not credable enough to say he did see someone but didn't say who.



Annessa
XOXO
 

Annessa

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Re: Re: I'm on my knees and praying.

Don said:
Come on DQ. I'm starting to get tired of that comment. If I had a buck for every American I know who said that since 2000 I'd be loaded. And guess what... no one moved.

I remember Eddie Vedder vowed to leave the US if Bush got elected in 2000. What happened? He got as far as Hawaii and was able to deal with his sorrows and come back according to his publicist. Good for him. Johnny Deep was supposed to bail. A few others I can remember but there were a bunch of them. I think one actually did leave to France (wait... was that Depp?)but the rest... well.... I guess they decided to stick it out.

I don't mean to come down on you but just a mini-rant in general. If you do decide to immigrate then I'll be the first to welcome!
Yes that was Depp Don. Johnny Depp did leave America and lives in Europe (I can't remember where though) with his wife and daughter and has been for the last 3 few years or so. Madonna as well lives in Europe with her husband and children and has been for years. Tori Amos lives in England with her husband and daughter and has been for years. There are quite a few American celebrities that live abroad (can't remember all of them) but have a home/homes in the U.S for when they are working/touring in the States.


Annessa
xoxo
 

Annessa

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Berlin said:
Dang I was out boozing and missed the whole thing. Please tell me the above is not true.

And BTW I voted for Cheetah Girl.
Ahhhhhh... thank you Berlin *hugs* And I promise to make America a better country for the American people and viewed as a better country in the face of the rest of the world by making sure that every client that sees an escort & MPA's gets a free lollypop and balloon with each visit. ;)


Annessa
xoxo
 

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ham2004 said:
Does any one really think a sitting president is going to lose. Bush will win.. not that I want him to but he will
Ahhh, see his father.

OTB
 

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banshie said:
I like the results of our poll better than the ones coming out of the U.S. Sometimes I wish Canada would just join the U.S. Then you would never see a bozo like Bush in the White House again!
A result even worse than Kerry being elected! Unless of course we could just take Western Canada - now there’s a thought......

OTB
 

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Annessa said:
He did say Kathleen that he met with the Black congress at the White House by why is it he couldn't say who? We are in the year of 2004 and slavery has been abolished for many decades now, So for me and other Black American citizens watching an instant ringer went off in my head as I thought "Who did he see? What is his or her name?" to me it's not credable enough to say he did see someone but didn't say who.



Annessa
XOXO
You've not heard the race card from the Dems, all you have to do is look at Bush's cabinet to see why.

OTB
 

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DonQuixote said:
The minorities in his cabinet are the only ones still with a job.
The blacks have taken a disproportionately heavy loss of jobs
in the last 3 years.

OTB you are sooooo predictable.

Your loyal antagonist, Don
Ahhh, the pot calling the kettle.....

Not quite, I employ a black guy, six figure comp plan. I had to edit this post because I don't really think of it that way though - after you know people a while you only see their personality not their appearance.......

OTB
 

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My take ... not that anyone cares ...

Bush did not answer many questions with any substance. He tried to get around quite a few by redirecting and did not make a stand.

Examples:

On jobs he always redirected to education.

On Roe vs Wade he talked about "litmus test". WTF???

Bush liked the distraction he thought he could use with the label "Liberal" and he also said to Kerry "you sit right on the far-left bank." Which just goes to show how far right Bush is by comparison! According to Bush where does Nader sit? Probably to a person who actually is on the far-left bank Kerry would be on the right and Bush on the extreme right. Kerry probably is actually more in the center. The only two meaningful parties in American politics are right and right-center on a global political scale.

I loved Kerry's statement:

"Being lectured by the president on fiscal responsibility is a little bit like Tony Soprano talking to me about law and order in this country. " - True the proof is in the pudding err deficit, jobs and number of those covered by healthcare plans and not excuses and promises, smoke and mirriors. Actually not that Kerry will live up to his claims either; I guess that is politicians for you.

Bush only really scored big when he talked about his faith and about the women in his life (only then did his words sound heart felt). He also did well to smile and laugh and not to scowl. On the other hand the deer in the headlights look did not help much.
 

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I can simply say that Bush just looks plain scared. I would be too if I was in his shoes.
Taylor
 

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banshie said:
I like the results of our poll better than the ones coming out of the U.S. Sometimes I wish Canada would just join the U.S. Then you would never see a bozo like Bush in the White House again!
Yeah right......I'd rather take Chretien over Bush any day......NOT
You got the nerve to talk about US president, while having a moron like Chretien running Canada.....
 

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DonQuixote said:
The minorities in his cabinet are the only ones still with a job.
The blacks have taken a disproportionately heavy loss of jobs
in the last 3 years.

OTB you are sooooo predictable.

Your loyal antagonist, Don
I guess that is Bush's fault too????

Don
I have know you to be a smart guy. Here is a question for you.

Presidents in general are taking credit or the heat for lost or won jobs.
With the exception of goverment jobs and some artificially created jobs in the depression, which president and or goverment actually creates jobs?
The whole notion that goverments and/or presidents are responsible for the job market is just plain stupid.
While goverment has the power to create a climate that could either favor or hinder economic activity. No goverment, with the above exception, has ever created jobs.
 

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langeweile said:
Yeah right......I'd rather take Chretien over Bush any day......NOT
You got the nerve to talk about US president, while having a moron like Chretien running Canada.....
Chretien was a lot of things. some of them negative. But he was no moron, in fact a very savvy politician.
 

banshie

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hdog said:
It's over. When Republicans come out 2 months before the election and say the war is a disaster, the jobs data is not as good as expected, the CIA blasts you, Bremer says there weren't enough troops deployed in Iraq, Rumsfeld says there was no connection between Hussien and al-Qaeda and Cheney directs people to an anti-Bush site it's not hard to figure out they want Bush out of there. He's done.
I would like to think you are right, but don't count Bush out yet. By any measure, he should lose in November. He should have lost last time. (Well actually he did, but Jeb and friends stole it for him.) He, and the people running his campaign, are masters at the impossible. Ann Richards was supposed to be unbeatable in Texas, but he toppled her.

He could well pull it off again. I hope not.
 

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bbking said:
....now where is that bomb making manual



bbk
Don't try it, if you can't float a sub home during peace time without anyone getting hurt........

OTB
 

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Re: My take ... not that anyone cares ...

tompeepin said:
Bush did not answer many questions with any substance. He tried to get around quite a few by redirecting and did not make a stand.

Examples:

On jobs he always redirected to education.

On Roe vs Wade he talked about "litmus test". WTF???

Bush liked the distraction he thought he could use with the label "Liberal" and he also said to Kerry "you sit right on the far-left bank." Which just goes to show how far right Bush is by comparison! According to Bush where does Nader sit? Probably to a person who actually is on the far-left bank Kerry would be on the right and Bush on the extreme right. Kerry probably is actually more in the center. The only two meaningful parties in American politics are right and right-center on a global political scale.

I loved Kerry's statement:

"Being lectured by the president on fiscal responsibility is a little bit like Tony Soprano talking to me about law and order in this country. " - True the proof is in the pudding err deficit, jobs and number of those covered by healthcare plans and not excuses and promises, smoke and mirriors. Actually not that Kerry will live up to his claims either; I guess that is politicians for you.

Bush only really scored big when he talked about his faith and about the women in his life (only then did his words sound heart felt). He also did well to smile and laugh and not to scowl. On the other hand the deer in the headlights look did not help much.
I did like the Bush line that Ted Kennedy was the Conservative Senator from Mass - that point hit home belive me.

OTB
 
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