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Final Presidential Debate

Who Is Going To Take Home The Gold Tonight?

  • John Kerry

    Votes: 39 59.1%
  • George Bush

    Votes: 11 16.7%
  • Not Sure

    Votes: 2 3.0%
  • Don't Care

    Votes: 5 7.6%
  • Annessa

    Votes: 9 13.6%

  • Total voters
    66

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bbking said:
The Bible belt has no history of doing that - they talk big like they did in 2000 but in the end it's just so much fizzle. Maybe this year will be different but I think it will more than be offset by the fiscal conservatives that will stay home.



bbk
Beleive me,Bush is Pro-life,and against gay marriage.Probably one or 2 Supreme court judges may be picked.I know Christian churches are urging there constituency to vote in record numbers.They see a victory and an over turning of the Roevs Wade decision.Ive talked to many and are angry i will be voting for Kerry.
 

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there are over 350 000 chinese in GTA ...... read statsCanada . we have an open door immigration policy unlike the US , so we get more riffraffs from third world countries like china and southeaat asia ..... the states sure dont want them .
Now, this is possibly the most imbecile and prejudiced post so far on TERB. You should be ashamed of yourself for talking about immigrants like that. Are you an aborigional american?

And open door immigration policy .. complete nonsense.
 

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Originally posted by trek5 united states is a conservative christian state, unlike canada where we are governed to the extreme left and ruled by women and visable minorities .
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Which would Martin be?

We have the second largest Jewish population in the world (5m).

OTB


"That is bigoted and racist statement. Living up to your reputation are you?"


BBK you need to lighten up on that race thing. It was meant as an sarcastic comeback to a previous post.

Your assumption of me being a bigot makes you look foolish. You know nothing about me?

If i would be of the sensitive type, some of your statements could be interpreted as bigot. "Dave Duke State members" and some comments on the so called religous right, don't spea much of you as a tolerant person.
Racism goes both ways.
 

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Peace4u said:
They see a victory and an over turning of the Roevs Wade decision.Ive talked to many and are angry i will be voting for Kerry.
I'm guessing they wouldn't be too fond of your participation on an escort review board either.
 

langeweile

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bbking said:
If that was a sarcastic comment regarding the OTB post of "who is Martin?" it was very inappropiate and if you don't get that then your beyond any help. As for not knowing you - well you maybe right but your posts tend to lean that way, so if your not maybe you should re-visit those posts - you can start with the Martin one, why can't Canada have a women or black PM ( we already had a women) without them dressing as a rich white man.

David Duke Society - do you even know who David Duke is? If you did you could hardly call my comment bigoted. As for the religous right, your right I have little patience for a theology that considers all others false, "you have to be born again to be christian," The theology is outside mainstream Christian thought and is very intolerant. If your accussing me of being intolerant of intolerance - quilty.


According to the laws, both the so called "Christian right" and the "David Duke Society" and the KKK/ Arien nation are not illegal organizations and thus extended the same rights under the constitution than any other organization.

Freedom of speech means Freedom of speech for ALL, like it or not.

Disclaimer
BBK I am not a member of the KKK or the Arien nation

I did not mean to offend anybody sorry you took it the wrong way.

Are you refering to the short reign of Kim Campbell? She was more of a sacrificial lamb than a true prime minister.
 

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The thing about these polls is that people are more likely to say the candidate they agree with won. I don't agree with John Kerry on everything, but definitely more than Bush, so I say he won.

I think Bush will win. I've talked to a lot of Americans who are under the impression that Kerry will leave national security up to the world. If this doesn't change by November 3, Kerry is in a lot of trouble.
 

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http://www.drudgereport.com/flash5.htm

CNN/USA TODAY/GALLUP POLL
October 14-16
Choice for President

Likely Registered
Voters Voters

Bush 52% 49%
Kerry 44 46
Nader 1 1

CNN/USA TODAY/GALLUP POLL

FOR RELEASE: Sunday, October 17 at noon

Interviews with 1,013 adult Americans, including 788 likely voters and 942 registered voters, conducted by telephone on October 14-16, 2004

Although Americans think John Kerry did the best job in the debates, that has not translated into an increase in his popularity, which in turn means that he appears to have lost a little ground to Bush. Among registered voters, a 48%-48% tie is now a 49%-46% edge for Bush -- not much of a difference and, with the sampling error, not a significant change. The Gallup likely voter model, which identified those respondents who are most likely to cast a ballot, is magnifying those shifts, with a 49%-48% advantage for Kerry turning into a 52%-44% lead for Bush. What's going on?

For one thing, the charge that Kerry is too liberal, which Bush emphasized mostly in the third and last debate on Wednesday night, seems to be sticking. Nearly half say Kerry's political views are too liberal. (Four in ten say Bush is too conservative.) But didn't Kerry win the debate? Yes, as with the first two debates, the public thinks Kerry did the better job on Wednesday night. But as Al Gore learned in 2000, winning a debate on points does not necessarily translate into votes or make a candidate more popular. As in 2000, Bush's favorable ratings -- Americans view of him as a person -- went up after a debate that he lost. Kerry's favorable rating has remained flat. Republicans seem more enthusiastic about the election, and thus more likely to vote, as reflected in the Gallup likely voter model.

Bush may have energized his base in the final debate at the expense of not appealing to a wider audience -- but he managed to do so in a way that made him more popular than Kerry.

Cheers,

-djk
 

langeweile

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bbking said:
David Duke Society - maybe legal but still bigoted - the legal status doesn't change that - or are you saying this views are acceptable because they happen to be legal today, and the fact that US hate crime legislation is not nearly as strong as Canada's laws - the David Duke crack wasn't directed at you anyways but at another uninformed righty.

Kim Campbell - she was PM for as long or longer than Joe Clarke, Canadian history has lots of short term PM's, they still were PM. Again you show a double standard and refuse to measure a womens success with the same standard you would for a man.




bbk
You have serious coonfidence issues
 

langeweile

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bbking said:
Where are you coming from - Kerry turned a near double digit loss to a tie and when it comes to the ground the Dems have the advatage. Your guy screwed up - he had an easy out of the debates - the economy and Iraq is fucked and as such I'm too busy to take the time to debate. Had GWB done this he would still have a near double digit lead. The debates are going to be GWB's waterloo.



For all you poll junkies.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/bush_vs_kerry.html
 

langeweile

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Kim Campbell - she was PM for as long or longer than Joe Clarke, Canadian history has lots of short term PM's, they still were PM. Again you show a double standard and refuse to measure a womens success with the same standard you would for a man

I am not sure i want to put this on my resume..as long as Joe Clark??
 

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bbking said:
While I am very sure people like yourself Lange - who know nothing about polls would have a ball with the 9 pt lead Bush has in the CNN poll - what you need to look at is not the likely voter # but the registered voter # which is only 2pts apart.

The likely voter number is only useful 72 hours before the election. Besides these weekend numbers are never good because you have the Sunday morning news shows that have a tendency to swing numbers. Therefore see ya on Tuesday. Oh! Bush had a 5 pt lead over Gore in 2000 going into the election and you saw how well he did with that.


bbk
here you go again....trying to force me in to a box. This link was provided as a service to those that like polls.
At what point did I say that I pay attention to them? if you go back to some of our earlier discussions I said "The only poll that counts, is the one on November 3rd.

What is it with you trying to stereotype people?
 

langeweile

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bbking said:
Well you put the info out there - it would imply that you support the result - other wise you wouldn't do it would you. I suspect if the results where reversed you wouldn't be so public minded.


bbk
You such a mind reader..I put it there a service to those who are interested
 

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