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Federal judge sides with Congress in legal fight over Trump's financial records

jcpro

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LOL. Why not distinguish yourself from the PGOTUS who is proud of the fact that he never reads anything and do some reading yourself. I do not intend to do your homework for you. But you may find the topic quite interesting. i did.
Coward.
 

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toguy5252

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Do tell what the Democrats' assertion of cover up actually describes. Which crime?
Well for starters he signed the cheques payable to cover up Stormy didn't he? And he lied about the cover up of the Trump Tower meeting didn't he?
 

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Do tell what the Democrats' assertion of cover up actually describes. Which crime?
From Mueller:
Obstruction
Conspiracy - though obstruction meant not enough evidence collected
instructing Cohen to lie to congress
Illegal campaign payments to Daniels
false statements to FBI/Mueller

Elsewhere
tax fraud
emoluments
inauguration committee funds fraud
hiring illegal workers

That's a start
 

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Well for starters he signed the cheques payable to cover up Stormy didn't he? And he lied about the cover up of the Trump Tower meeting didn't he?
And how is the NDA a crime? And since we DO know about it, how is it a cover up? BTW, is that what Pelosi is talking about???? Are you sure?
 

jcpro

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From Mueller:
Obstruction
Conspiracy - though obstruction meant not enough evidence collected
instructing Cohen to lie to congress
Illegal campaign payments to Daniels
false statements to FBI/Mueller

Elsewhere
tax fraud
emoluments
inauguration committee funds fraud
hiring illegal workers

That's a start
Cohen instructed to lie- debunked BY COHEN in a sworn testimony before the Congressional committee. Nothing illegal about the NDA. No need to go anywhere with this. At least you stopped bringing up the Piss Dossier. Progress.
 

Frankfooter

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Cohen instructed to lie- debunked BY COHEN in a sworn testimony before the Congressional committee. Nothing illegal about the NDA. No need to go anywhere with this. At least you stopped bringing up the Piss Dossier. Progress.
Read Cohen's testimony, which has only now been released.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6021026-Michael-Cohen-House-Intel-Testimony-Transripts.html

Michael Cohen tells Congress that Jay Sekulow knew Cohen's testimony on Trump Tower was false
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/20/politics/michael-cohen-transcript-released/index.html

The docs are public now, Cohen has sworn that he lied to congress on behalf of Trump and on Sekulow's instructions.
 

toguy5252

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And how is the NDA a crime? And since we DO know about it, how is it a cover up? BTW, is that what Pelosi is talking about???? Are you sure?
It is not what Pelosi is talking about I simply gave 2 examples. Cohen pleased guilty as a result of the payments. The PGOTUS was effectively an unindicted co-conspirator. I am not sure if you are being intentionally disingenuous or you are truly that blind. Mind you you are part of the cohort so that may be the answer.
 

jcpro

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It is not what Pelosi is talking about I simply gave 2 examples. Cohen pleased guilty as a result of the payments. The PGOTUS was effectively an unindicted co-conspirator. I am not sure if you are being intentionally disingenuous or you are truly that blind. Mind you you are part of the cohort so that may be the answer.
LOL!! Cohen pleaded to non crime to get a less of a sentence. But. I'm glad you didn't make a fool of yourself to try to attribute your examples to Pelosi. Simple fact being that Nadler's obsession with Trump's tax returns is THE indication that he got squat. Hence, he will not see them because you cannot get a search warrant with no cause.
 

toguy5252

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LOL!! Cohen pleaded to non crime to get a less of a sentence. But. I'm glad you didn't make a fool of yourself to try to attribute your examples to Pelosi. Simple fact being that Nadler's obsession with Trump's tax returns is THE indication that he got squat. Hence, he will not see them because you cannot get a search warrant with no cause.
LOL. You are the living embodiment of the Cohort.
 

Frankfooter

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LOL!! Cohen pleaded to non crime to get a less of a sentence. But. I'm glad you didn't make a fool of yourself to try to attribute your examples to Pelosi. Simple fact being that Nadler's obsession with Trump's tax returns is THE indication that he got squat. Hence, he will not see them because you cannot get a search warrant with no cause.
Cohen is in prison for crimes committed on behalf of Trump.
Trump if he wasn't POTUS, would be charged as well.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Cohen is in prison for crimes committed on behalf of Trump.
Trump if he wasn't POTUS, would be charged as well
Wrong! Cohen is in prison for tax fraud and bank fraud.
The 8 counts of campaign finance violations (Stormy Daniels payoff) is not an imprisonable offence, its always a SEC fine
 

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Wrong! Cohen is in prison for tax fraud and bank fraud.
The 8 counts of campaign finance violations (Stormy Daniels payoff) is not an imprisonable offence, its always a SEC fine
http://time.com/5374619/donald-trump-campaign-finance-law-crimes/

Trump Said Campaign Finance Violations Aren't a Crime. Experts Say That's 'Nonsensical'

There’s no way a federal judge would let someone plea to something that wasn’t a crime,” said Renato Mariotti, a former federal prosecutor. “That’s not how it works.”

Added Hasen: “It’s not only non accurate, it’s nonsensical. Why would you plead guilty to a crime that carries five years in jail if it was not a crime?”
 

Phil C. McNasty

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http://time.com/5374619/donald-trump-campaign-finance-law-crimes/

Trump Said Campaign Finance Violations Aren't a Crime. Experts Say That's 'Nonsensical'

There’s no way a federal judge would let someone plea to something that wasn’t a crime,” said Renato Mariotti, a former federal prosecutor. “That’s not how it works.”

Added Hasen: “It’s not only non accurate, it’s nonsensical. Why would you plead guilty to a crime that carries five years in jail if it was not a crime?”
Its always a fine, dude. Do some research before you open your piehole:

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/obama-2008-campaign-fined-375000-085784

https://www.nbc26.com/news/national...ity-fails-to-disclose-fines-legal-settlements

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/376373-sanders-campaign-pays-145k-fine-to-settle-fec-complaint
 

Phil C. McNasty

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So Phil, why do you think that Cohen is in prison and Sanders and Obama were just fined?
Because they just threw in those charges on top of the other 2 most serious charges. Cops overcharge all the time.
Cohen pled guilty in the hope of getting as little jailtime as possible.

No politician has ever gone to jail for campaign finance violations. Thats a fact!
 

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Because they just threw in those charges on top of the other 2 most serious charges. Cops overcharge all the time.
Cohen pled guilty in the hope of getting as little jailtime as possible.

No politician has ever gone to jail for campaign finance violations. Thats a fact!
How many others paid off pornstars and tried to keep it hush hush?
 

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