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So you are willing to call Hamas terrorists without any investigations ...
I trust Canada when they investigated and concluded Hamas are terrorists. I also accept that when Hamas admits to committing terrorism and war crimes, it's probably because they do.

But I love your "no you are" attempts to cover your own ass.
 

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So, resisting invasion, occupation and oppression is a "dumb excuse"?
Yes, it is a dumb excuse to justify terrorism.

If the IRA were simply attacking Brit military then I'd understand the statement but that's not what they did.

Also stupid to try and kill civilians who've been living there for generations because you have a religious hatred of them.
 

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Yes, it is a dumb excuse to justify terrorism.

If the IRA were simply attacking Brit military then I'd understand the statement but that's not what they did.

Also stupid to try and kill civilians who've been living there for generations because you have a religious hatred of them.
It would be dumb to attack a much more powerful invader and oppressor only militarily.

It was the UDA that had the religious hatred.

BTW: The ANC and Nelson Mandela were also labelled terrorists.
 
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I trust Canada when they investigated and concluded Hamas are terrorists. I also accept that when Hamas admits to committing terrorism and war crimes, it's probably because they do.

But I love your "no you are" attempts to cover your own ass.
Show me the Canadian investigations in this latest round of violence, the Great March of Return, the occupation, apartheid and the 2014 slaughter on Gaza.
Oh right, those are all ongoing investigations at the ICC and Canada has never looked at them.

Yet here you are declaring Israel innocent and Hamas 'terrorists'.
So much for your support of the rule of law.


And again, why do you keep posting about Israeli war crimes against the Muslims in Palestine in a thread that is supposed to be about denouncing racism and terrorism?
Why do you keep defending apartheid against Muslims in Palestine then pretend to be against racism?

 

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Yes, it is a dumb excuse to justify terrorism.
Neither side is justified using terrorism yet both sides do so. You back Israeli terrorism when they target hospitals, schools, media outlets and residential towers then turn around and call it 'terrorism' when Hamas fires rockets they can't even aim. Hamas calls for ICC investigations, you and Israel are frightened of them and we know that's because its Israel that's committing terrorism and war crimes on a vastly larger scale.

A 53 year old occupation, apartheid and ongoing settler colonization are perfectly legitimate rationales for Palestinians 'right to self defence', though neither side have the 'right' to target civilians.
Israel, as the military occupying power, does not have the legal right to 'self defence' according to the Geneva Conventions.

Again, why do you keep trying to change the subject to Israeli apartheid rule and brutally racist occupation of Muslims in Palestine in a thread that is supposed to be condemning terrorism against Muslims here in Canada? Why do you not see that your hateful attacks on Palestinians and attempts to label them all as 'Hamas' or 'terrorists' are hatefully racist? Why do you refuse to support equal rights for Palestinians?
Why do you refuse to support both sides being held to the law equally? Why do you post this stuff in this thread?
 

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I try to stay out of the Middle East. Here's my take on the situation.

1) Palestine is the ancestral home of the Jews. (Just like Ireland is the ancestral home of the Irish.)

2) The Muslim Arabs and Iran refuses to recognize Israel's right to exist. If they could, they would would wipe Israel off the map. So, I would cut Israel some slack.
 
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I try to stay out of the Middle East. Here's my take on the situation.

1) Palestine is the ancestral home of the Jews. (Just like Ireland is the ancestral home of the Irish.)

2) The Muslim Arabs and Iran refuses to recognize Israel's right to exist. If they could, they would would wipe Israel off the map. So, I would cut Israel some slack.
Hold on, don't go all slack yet.
1) Are you implying that Palestine isn't the ancestral home of Palestinians?
2) Israel refuses to recognize Palestine's right to exist and has already wiped it off the map.

Ethno states are stupid. Just give them all equal rights and let them figure out how to live together.
If Rwanda can get past a genocide then Palestinians and Jews should be able to get past this mess.
 

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Hold on, don't go all slack yet.
1) Are you implying that Palestine isn't the ancestral home of Palestinians?
2) Israel refuses to recognize Palestine's right to exist and has already wiped it off the map.

Ethno states are stupid. Just give them all equal rights and let them figure out how to live together.
If Rwanda can get past a genocide then Palestinians and Jews should be able to get past this mess.
Brits out of Ireland! Go! Leave!
 

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It would be dumb to attack a much more powerful invader and oppressor only militarily.
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I know, morals are such a strange thing.

Of course lets ignore how much progress was made once the terrorist groups decided to give up terrorism.
 

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Neither side is justified using terrorism ...
So all the posts you've made about rockets being "self defense" and Jewish civilians in the West Bank are legitimate targets? All the times you claim Hamas had given up terrorism even when Hamas admits they're doing it?
 

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Hold on, don't go all slack yet.
1) Are you implying that Palestine isn't the ancestral home of Palestinians?
2) Israel refuses to recognize Palestine's right to exist and has already wiped it off the map.

Ethno states are stupid. Just give them all equal rights and let them figure out how to live together.
If Rwanda can get past a genocide then Palestinians and Jews should be able to get past this mess.
That's it, you guys should chat more. After all, you share support for terrorism over morals. Invite me to the wedding.
 

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I know, morals are such a strange thing.
Yes, some people support/defend invasion, occupation and oppression.

Of course lets ignore how much progress was made once the terrorist groups decided to give up terrorism.
Only after the Brits were dragged to the peace table and agreed to the Good Friday Agreement. The days of Empire will finally be over when the Brits leave Northern Ireland, good riddance. Brits out!
 

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So all the posts you've made about rockets being "self defense" and Jewish civilians in the West Bank are legitimate targets? All the times you claim Hamas had given up terrorism even when Hamas admits they're doing it?
What posts about legitimate targets?
Can you stop just making shit up.

The only one here who says civilians are targets is you.
You supported Israel using snipers on civilian protesters, and I backed up the claim with a quote.
You support Israel targeting residential towers, schools, hospitals and media centres.

Those you call 'legitimate targets' while the UN says they need to be investigated as war crimes.

Israel kills 10-20x the number of civilians while illegally occupying Palestine and ruling through apartheid.
Yet you support those war crimes and acts of state terrorism.

Why do you keep defending apartheid rule on the Muslims in Palestine in this thread about terrorism in Canada?
All you are doing is contributing to the hatred towards Muslim that lead to this attack.
 

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What posts about legitimate targets?
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I'd love to look through the 22 posts per day you're averaging but to be quicker, how about you answer yes or no.

Are Jewish civilians living in the West Bank legitimate targets for attacks?
Is Hamas or other Gaza factions launching unguided rockets in an way legitimate?
Has Hamas committed acts of terrorism in the past year?

Sadly you won't be able to answer with a simple yes or no because you have a pathological need to frame everything as Israel = bad so anyone who opposed Israel = good.

p.s. The UN man on the ground clearly stated that Israel was largely hitting military targets even though he did protest that civilians died.


p.p.s. Funny after all the threads on anti-semitism, Iran, the Middle East, and god knows what that you worked hard to turn into your Israel obsession.
 
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