EV revolution

[GameBoy27]

A Potential Game-Changer

Solid-state batteries have long been regarded as a potential game-changer for EVs. Toyota stated that the company made a breakthrough in its efforts to improve the durability of this technology. Toyota has moved its focus to bringing solid-state batteries into mass production and ready for commercial use by 2027 or 2028.

Toyota’s first solid-state battery is expected to offer a 621-mile driving range with an 80 percent fast charging time of just around 10 minutes. Just for a comparison, the Tesla Model Y has a 336-mile range and about 15-minute fast charging time.

The long-awaited solid-state batteries have been touted by some industry experts as a potential solution to EV battery concerns such as charging time, driving range, and fire risk.

Solid-state batteries are nothing new. Solid electrolytes were created in the 1800s, and they are currently used in in small electronic devices like pacemakers and medical devices.

 

[nottyboi]

Get a EV with a gas engine. Mine has a mere 120 km battery range but I can use gas if I need to go further

A Potential Game-Changer

Solid-state batteries have long been regarded as a potential game-changer for EVs. Toyota stated that the company made a breakthrough in its efforts to improve the durability of this technology. Toyota has moved its focus to bringing solid-state batteries into mass production and ready for commercial use by 2027 or 2028.

Toyota’s first solid-state battery is expected to offer a 621-mile driving range with an 80 percent fast charging time of just around 10 minutes. Just for a comparison, the Tesla Model Y has a 336-mile range and about 15-minute fast charging time.

The long-awaited solid-state batteries have been touted by some industry experts as a potential solution to EV battery concerns such as charging time, driving range, and fire risk.

Solid-state batteries are nothing new. Solid electrolytes were created in the 1800s, and they are currently used in in small electronic devices like pacemakers and medical devices.

The solid state batteries we are talking about today have vastly higher density then those of the 1800s and are rechargable. Saying they are nothing new is absurd.

 

[nottyboi]

Thanks & appreciate your FYI but I'm a bit skeptical/cynical about battery life among a few other things regarding EVs.

LTO_3

The guy told you his has 268K km and still has good capacity... but NOOO lol. Go look at the classified for EVs and look at the miles on some of them.

 

[nottyboi]

Don't forget to factor in the initial cost of your EV and the depreciation. Seems as though many EV owners fail to mention that stuff. It's always, "look how much I save on gas."

if that is your concern, by a slightly used one. I bouught mine in 2018, it was 3 years old I got more then 50% off and still 1 year of factory warranty.

 

[LTO_3]

The guy told you his has 268K km and still has good capacity... but NOOO lol. Go look at the classified for EVs and look at the miles on some of them.

Battery life is one issue as I've said. If you want to buy one go for it. I'll stay with my ICE until I decide otherwise.

LTO_3

 

[nottyboi]

Battery life is one issue as I've said. If you want to buy one go for it. I'll stay with my ICE until I decide otherwise.

LTO_3

Been driving it for 8 years now. Since its compeletely carbon it won't rust so I may have it a long time. When I got it I was amazed at how many free chargers are avail, people told me that will not last. Last summer they installed 20 free chargers 150m from my house. lol

 

[bazokajoe]

Linamar literally just finished building a huge plant in the Niagara Region for the EV supply chain.
Not 1 employee was hired or any machinery in the building.
It's up for sale or lease already.
EV market will never be a serious threat to ICE cars/trucks.

 

[nottyboi]

Linamar literally just finished building a huge plant in the Niagara Region for the EV supply chain.
Not 1 employee was hired or any machinery in the building.
It's up for sale or lease already.
EV market will never be a serious threat to ICE cars/trucks.

Its probably too late for Linamar to make an impact on the EV supply chain. Cars being built in China today are 10-15 years ahead of what they are capable of building. Its possible that the logical next step is EREVs (extended range EVs) Like the Ramcharger. It will do almost 200 km in EV mode and 600+ KM with gas and EV. But for most people they will almost never use the gas engine.

 

[bazokajoe]

Its probably too late for Linamar to make an impact on the EV supply chain. Cars being built in China today are 10-15 years ahead of what they are capable of building. Its possible that the logical next step is EREVs (extended range EVs) Like the Ramcharger. It will do almost 200 km in EV mode and 600+ KM with gas and EV. But for most people they will almost never use the gas engine.

Highly unlikely Linamar is to late to the show. The Welland factory wasn't a full manufacturing plant. It was supposed to stamp out parts.
Manufacturing parts isn't ground breaking science.
As far as the Ram, that will be in the garage every other week getting fixed. Only thing a Dodge is good for is a boat anchor.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/kitchener/ar...used-welland-ont-factory-already-up-for-sale/

 

[nottyboi]

Highly unlikely Linamar is to late to the show. The Welland factory wasn't a full manufacturing plant. It was supposed to stamp out parts.
Manufacturing parts isn't ground breaking science.
As far as the Ram, that will be in the garage every other week getting fixed. Only thing a Dodge is good for is a boat anchor.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/kitchener/ar...used-welland-ont-factory-already-up-for-sale/

Lots of people own Dodges, and even if not the most reliable they are not that bad. Regardless there will be many EREVs in the not too distant future. I have a BMW EREV and its been great, probably use the engine 2% of the time.

 

[JackieJack]

Scientists have been looking at ways to make EV's more efficient and safer. Is this the ticket?

If so will Elon Musk suppress it?

https://www.popularmechanics.com/sc...on-batteries/?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

Looks interesting, I'm sure we are going to be seeing some interesting battery tech in the next decade or so.
As far as Elon, he may. Dont think he's really concerned about making a better EV.

 

[WoodPeckr]

China's BYD cuts entry price for smart EVs to below $10,000
https://www.yahoo.com/news/finance/news/chinas-byd-sell-21-models-121428786.html

China's BYD goes all-in on self-driving, with even its $9,500 EV getting 'high-level' autonomous features

BYD unveiled a massive expansion of its "Gods Eye" intelligent driving system on Monday as the car giant looks to win the brutal EV battle.

www.yahoo.com

EVs in general have a third less parts than ICE vehicles and should should cost less. Current high EV prices are due to their newness and novelty. As production ramps up EVs will have a significant price drop as shown by what China is doing now. BTW China is the leader in EVs. Many years ahead of all other countries including the USA and Tesla in EV development.

 

[nottyboi]

China's BYD cuts entry price for smart EVs to below $10,000
https://www.yahoo.com/news/finance/news/chinas-byd-sell-21-models-121428786.html

China's BYD goes all-in on self-driving, with even its $9,500 EV getting 'high-level' autonomous features

BYD unveiled a massive expansion of its "Gods Eye" intelligent driving system on Monday as the car giant looks to win the brutal EV battle.

www.yahoo.com

EVs in general have a third less parts than ICE vehicles and should should cost less. Current high EV prices are due to their newness and novelty. As production ramps up EVs will have a significant price drop as shown by what China is doing now. BTW China is the leader in EVs. Many years ahead of all other countries including the USA and Tesla in EV development.

Yup, BYD can take a car from blank sheet of paper to showroom in 18m, staggering!!! Renault opened a center in China just to learn how to build them. They are now down to 19m from blank sheet to showroom.

 

[HungSowel]

An ICE has more sources of friction not just the easy to deal with rolling friction but also sliding friction from the 2 piston rings per cylinder, the CAM shaft which pushes the 4 valves per cylinder, the transmission, and the brakes.

In an EV, all the sources of friction are rolling friction, which is easily managed by lubricated hardened steel ball bearings.

The biggest upkeep with EVs is tires, EVs are heavy and hard on the tires.

 

[WoodPeckr]

The biggest upkeep with EVs is tires, EVs are heavy and hard on the tires.

Not true.
My EV weighs 400 lbs less than my prior ICE vehicle.

Detroit is putting crappy 'performance tires' on many domestic vehicles now instead of 'touring tires' used in the past. Not sure about what tires go on non domestic vehicles, now.
OEM touring tires with harder rubber compounds used to last me 45,000-52,000 miles before needing replacement.
OEM performance tires with softer rubber compounds wear out faster by design. Some wear out in 15,000 miles or sooner!
Many folks with ICE vehicles have these same crappy performance tires designed to wear out faster than touring tires.
This included me! My last ICE vehicle's tires wore out at 18,000 miles! Complained about it to the Dealer who blamed it on Michelin. Called Michelin to complain and was told "they warned the carmaker who ordered these crappy tires installed" this early wear would happen! Went back to dealer and confronted them on these facts. End result was I ending up getting a new set of four tires for free!
That said the price of all new tires are ridiculous.

IMHO this is just another scam being foisted on us, like higher prices for all car parts, by Carmakers to pick our pockets

 

[GameBoy27]

China's BYD cuts entry price for smart EVs to below $10,000
https://www.yahoo.com/news/finance/news/chinas-byd-sell-21-models-121428786.html

China's BYD goes all-in on self-driving, with even its $9,500 EV getting 'high-level' autonomous features

BYD unveiled a massive expansion of its "Gods Eye" intelligent driving system on Monday as the car giant looks to win the brutal EV battle.

www.yahoo.com

EVs in general have a third less parts than ICE vehicles and should should cost less. Current high EV prices are due to their newness and novelty. As production ramps up EVs will have a significant price drop as shown by what China is doing now. BTW China is the leader in EVs. Many years ahead of all other countries including the USA and Tesla in EV development.

Do those Chinese EVs pass all the North American safety standards?

 

[roddermac]

Is it the ticket? Perhaps, but as with every other innovation that was supposed to dethrone lithium it comes down to manufacturing costs being too high for mass production. Assuming it is the case that proton batteries are the replacement, why on earth would Elon want to suppress it?

He doesn't. People just hate on Elon because he supports Trump now. Elon is open to anything that is progress.

 

[roddermac]

Yes, they are all con men.
Musk is just a little extra.

No he's just better at making money than the others.

 

[roddermac]

Linamar literally just finished building a huge plant in the Niagara Region for the EV supply chain.
Not 1 employee was hired or any machinery in the building.
It's up for sale or lease already.
EV market will never be a serious threat to ICE cars/trucks.

Porsche is longer building EVs.

 

[GameBoy27]

Porsche is longer building EVs.

Justin is going to be very upset.