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Epstein floodgates open as judge rules explosive docs detailing Ghislaine Maxwell's sex life can be UNSEALED in Virginia Giuffre's defamation case

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Epstein was caught and they had no choice but to silence him, but they are still directing the public's attention away from what he did and what he was. Epstein was Israeli intelligence working in the U.S.A. with American knowledge and permission. He was also a useful asset as he can do dirty deeds for American intelligence so that they do not have to get their hands dirty. He was a manufactured millionaire just as Robert Maxwell was. Maxwell's job was to manipulate the British media through his news papers and Epstein's job was to compromise wealthy and powerful people.
Epstein received a lot of his money from Les Wexner of Victoria Secrets who may also be a manufactured millionaire. Wexner may just be a money man that was directed to fund people like Epstein. The crime in which Epstein served one year in a Florida jail has been pushed into the background, the two victims are 14 year old girls. The stories that are coming out are about 17 year old girls.

Possible outcome for Ghislaine Maxwell : She may have been directed to re-appear in the U.S.A. to put out a plausible story to save the reputation of Prince Andrew. She may be charged with crimes and the outcome in court is that she will be found not guilty due to previous immunity granted, witnesses not showing up or having convenient faulty memory or from pre arranged ( prosecutor assisted ) legal loopholes in the law. If Ghislaine Maxwell is Israeli intelligence as I suspect and his hung out to dry and/or suicided like Epstein, there will be wholesale resignations in the intelligence community around the world. Epstein broke the rules and exposed himself with his first criminal case in 2005, Maxwell was collateral damage through no fault of her own. Maxwell's last mission may be to fill in the blank spaces with answers of their own choosing and save the reputation of Prince Andrew. All Maxwell has to do is put the dirty deeds on the dead guy and say the Andy is innocent and pure as the driven snow.
 
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danmand

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Epstein was caught and they had no choice but to silence him, but they are still directing the public's attention away from what he did and what he was. Epstein was Israeli intelligence working in the U.S.A. with American knowledge and permission. He was also a useful asset as he can do dirty deeds for American intelligence so that they do not have to get their hands dirty. He was a manufactured millionaire just as Robert Maxwell was. Maxwell's job was to manipulate the British media through his news papers and Epstein's job was to compromise wealthy and powerful people.
Epstein received a lot of his money from Les Wexner of Victoria Secrets who may also be a manufactured millionaire. Wexner may just be a money man that was directed to fund people like Epstein. The crime in which Epstein served one year in a Florida jail has been pushed into the background, the two victims are 14 year old girls. The stories that are coming out are about 17 year old girls.

Possible outcome for Ghislaine Maxwell : She may have been directed to re-appear in the U.S.A. to put out a plausible story to save the reputation of Prince Andrew. She may be charged with crimes and the outcome in court is that she will be found not guilty due to previous immunity granted, witnesses not showing up or having convenient faulty memory or from pre arranged ( prosecutor assisted ) legal loopholes in the law. If Ghislaine Maxwell is Israeli intelligence as I suspect and his hung out to dry and/or suicided like Epstein, there will be wholesale resignations in the intelligence community around the world. Epstein broke the rules and exposed himself with his first criminal case in 2005, Maxwell was collateral damage through no fault of her own. Maxwell's last mission may be to fill in the blank spaces with answers of their own choosing and save the reputation of Prince Andrew. All Maxwell has to do is put the dirty deeds on the dead guy and say the Andy is innocent and pure as the driven snow.
I agree with your analysis, but not with your conclusion.

I think the Americans will show who ultimately are in charge, namely the CIA. Somebody has to be sacrificed, and I doubt it will be any of the American Elites.

I think the sacrificial lamb will be Prince Andrew, who is a fool without any real power base.
 

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Trump is in office today, isn't he? He can pardon her today, if he wanted to.
President Trump isn't as quick to give out pardons as some think. Look at these rankings and see who's in the top 4.


 

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Ghislaine Maxwell is a Israeli intelligence operative, she works for and with the Israelis, British and American intelligence services. They barter and trade favours and information to get the mission accomplished. What the British need now is to have Prince Andrews name cleared, or at least wipe off as much mud from him as possible.

Ghislaine Maxwell can not be forgotten and left out in the cold. Look at how elaborately she and Epstein has been set up with a cover. If Maxwell is forgotten and left to fend for herself she will tell all. If she is suicided then there will be mass resignation in the Israeli and American intelligence services. It is better to bring her back to tell a story they want you to believe and to clear Prince Andrew in the process. For this the Brits will pay big.
 

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President Trump isn't as quick to give out pardons as some think. Look at these rankings and see who's in the top 4.


Trump seems to only pardon those who he thinks might boost his standing w his base or who kept silent and didn't turn on him and expose his corruption. The other presidents pardoned wrongly convicted victims?
 

danmand

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President Trump isn't as quick to give out pardons as some think. Look at these rankings and see who's in the top 4.


Most pardons are given out in the last 3 months of a presidency.
 

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Ghislaine Maxwell is a Israeli intelligence operative, she works for and with the Israelis, British and American intelligence services. They barter and trade favours and information to get the mission accomplished. What the British need now is to have Prince Andrews name cleared, or at least wipe off as much mud from him as possible.

Ghislaine Maxwell can not be forgotten and left out in the cold. Look at how elaborately she and Epstein has been set up with a cover. If Maxwell is forgotten and left to fend for herself she will tell all. If she is suicided then there will be mass resignation in the Israeli and American intelligence services. It is better to bring her back to tell a story they want you to believe and to clear Prince Andrew in the process. For this the Brits will pay big.
Mass resignations?

If she is suicided it will considered another day at the office. The problem they have is a suicide trigger to dump information to say WikiLeaks. And with Epstein's death the scrutiny is huge.

Personally I think she was captured because some people have a conscious. And decided to take her in. And damn the people in power.
 

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When Epstein was suicided I thought for sure the same people would have suicided Maxwell. With all her connections and money she could have went directly to a non extradition country. Maxwell is a citizen of France. While France does have an extradition treaty with the U.S.A. it will not extradite a French national.

I think Maxwell has been re-planted for one last mission. To put out an plausible but obviously false version of events for public consumption and to make a statement that clears Prince Andrew of any wrong doing whether he is guilty or not. If the charges against her are dropped due to the Statute of limitation, intimidated and non co-operative witnesses, previously granted immunity or dropped by the prosecutors because she is above their pay grade then you will know the fix is in and all they have to do is act out the script.


Mass resignations?

If she is suicided it will considered another day at the office. The problem they have is a suicide trigger to dump information to say WikiLeaks. And with Epstein's death the scrutiny is huge.

Personally I think she was captured because some people have a conscious. And decided to take her in. And damn the people in power.
If she is suicided or convicted of crimes then they have not backed her in her mission that she was tasked to do. All other intelligence operatives will be afraid to suffer the same fate and not do their jobs as diligently as they can if they have cart blanche.
 
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danmand

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When Epstein was suicided I thought for sure the same people would have suicided Maxwell. With all her connections and money she could have went directly to a non extradition country. Maxwell is a citizen of France. While France does have an extradition treaty with the U.S.A. it will not extradite a French national.

I think Maxwell has been re-planted for one last mission. To put out an plausible but obviously false version of events for public consumption and to make a statement that clears Prince Andrew of any wrong doing whether he is guilty or not. If the charges against her are dropped due to the Statute of limitation, intimidated and non co-operative witnesses, previously granted immunity or dropped by the prosecutors because she is above their pay grade then you will know the fix is in and all they have to do is act out the script.




If she is suicided or convicted of crimes then they have not backed her in her mission that she was tasked to do. All other intelligence operatives will be afraid to suffer the same fate and not do their jobs as diligently as they can if they have cart blanche.

You seem to believe that if you post this theory enough times, it becomes truth. It does not
 

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I'm not buying it either.

The trouble started when The Queen cut off Sarah Ferguson. Bidee Cat's assumes that the court will give Virginia Giuffre the Anita Hill treatment, her lawyer will not allow that to happen, nor will public opinion. And Randy Andy hasn't exactly been contrite, he's living large in Marbella, Spain. No one wants to set the precedent that pedophiles can escape justice, no matter how well connected they are. The best Ghislaine can do is plead the Fifth, is she allowed to?

A pizza joint in Wokking...sounds like a Monty Python sketch.

 

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If an arrest warrant is issued for Randy Andy will Spanish Authorities carry it out. I'm hoping they'll be as assertive with the Pedo Prince as they were with Pinochet.

 
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If an arrest warrant is issued for Randy Andy will Spanish Authorities carry it out. I'm hoping they'll be as assertive with the Pedo Prince as they were with Pinochet.

No love lost between Spain and the Former Empire. Spanish nationalist extremists have been screeching for a military re occupation of Gibraltar. And Andy has no diplomatic mission in Spain. He's there as a private citizen.
 

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If an arrest warrant is issued for Randy Andy will Spanish Authorities carry it out. I'm hoping they'll be as assertive with the Pedo Prince as they were with Pinochet.


The Prince may just get offed, it would simplify things for a lot of people like what happened to his late sister in law.
 

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This case is truly history making , so many high powered business people and politicians careers and freedom are in danger. That being said I don't see her making it trial. They will say it's covid, cancer, or some prisoner did it for "prison code". When she passes all the documents will be released.
 

danmand

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If an arrest warrant is issued for Randy Andy will Spanish Authorities carry it out. I'm hoping they'll be as assertive with the Pedo Prince as they were with Pinochet.

I read in the british news that Prince Andrew has cancelled his yearly golfing holiday in Spain because he fears being arrested there.
 

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Rotflmfao!! I'm reading this thread, and guys, thanks for the laughs. Especially about the pardon speculations! The newly unsealed documents contain a testimony that Bill Clinton had sex with underaged girls on the Rape Island. Hillary will have to wait for the pardon for her husband for a while and pray for Biden's win because there will be no pardon from Trump. You people have truly stepped off the edge and into the fantasy void. Btw, Ms. Maxwell will die in prison, if not early then of the old age.
 

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Trump seems to only pardon those who he thinks might boost his standing w his base or who kept silent and didn't turn on him and expose his corruption. The other presidents pardoned wrongly convicted victims?
So Trump pardon's 11+ people and Obama pardons 1927 people. According to your logic, Obama needed a lot more boosting/muzzling of his standing than Trump. Or in mathematical terms Obama needed 17,400% more boosting that Trump. Obama is an abomination. (Pun obviously intended.)

Even the mainstream media so-called "idiot" president George W. Bush only pardoned 77 people. How come no one is seeing this??
 

danmand

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So Trump pardon's 11+ people and Obama pardons 1927 people. According to your logic, Obama needed a lot more boosting/muzzling of his standing than Trump. Or in mathematical terms Obama needed 17,400% more boosting that Trump. Obama is an abomination. (Pun obviously intended.)

Even the mainstream media so-called "idiot" president George W. Bush only pardoned 77 people. How come no one is seeing this??
Try to look into who Obama pardoned.
 

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Try to look into who Obama pardoned.
Obama pardoned people who were convicted of conspiracies that benefited Obama. Oh wait no that was Trump.
 
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