Epstein floodgates open as judge rules explosive docs detailing Ghislaine Maxwell's sex life can be UNSEALED in Virginia Giuffre's defamation case

lomotil

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Why did she did she return the the USA? She has the money and resources to "disappear".
She was in France which has no extradition treaty with America. The fact that she moved to America of all places and bought a house after her partner in alleged crime Epstein met his demise indicates to me that she must have cut some sort of deal with American LE, the CIA or FBI to go very easy on her if she would talk and give up some names. Her arrest was either staged or perhaps the deal has some how already gone bad, The only thing that is for sure is that there are some very nervous rich men out there that are very nervous and anxious as they await what will come.

Notice that the trial is going to occur next summer, well after this years US election.
 

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She was in France which has no extradition treaty with America. The fact that she moved to America of all places and bought a house after her partner in alleged crime Epstein met his demise indicates to me that she must have cut some sort of deal with American LE, the CIA or FBI to go very easy on her if she would talk and give up some names. Her arrest was either staged or perhaps the deal has some how already gone bad, The only thing that is for sure is that there are some very nervous rich men out there that are very nervous and anxious as they await what will come.

Notice that the trial is going to occur next summer, well after this years US election.
Exactly
 

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Trump is in office today, isn't he? He can pardon her today, if he wanted to.
Even if he is voted out - Trump has until January 20, 2021 to pardon her. There is no rush if she understood his message.
 

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Even if he is voted out - Trump has until January 20, 2021 to pardon her. There is no rush if she understood his message.
Even if Trump pardons her, which is very nearly impossible, she will still be safer in jail. Does she not have to be convicted of a federal crime to be pardoned by the president? Her trial will be after January 20, 2021. Many people want her head as she has lots of incriminating evidence, likely recordings even. She is also a Mossad agent and Israel is very loyal to their spies.
 

danmand

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Even if Trump pardons her, which is very nearly impossible, she will still be safer in jail. Does she not have to be convicted of a federal crime to be pardoned by the president? Her trial will be after January 20, 2021. Many people want her head as she has lots of incriminating evidence, likely recordings even. She is also a Mossad agent and Israel is very loyal to their spies.
The president can pardon her before she goes to trial. He could pardon her today.
 

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If she doesn't die first, he'll wait til after the election to pardon so she'll drag out proceedings as long as she can. Thus feds gotta give her immunity to checkmate the pardon and then round up the pedophiles. They may not want to do that however.
 

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Um. They are state charges. So no I don't believe he can.
She's also facing state charges? When did that happen?
I don't think a state is allowed to charge her until the Federal case is done, no? Can they run those concurrently?
 

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The president can pardon her before she goes to trial. He could pardon her today.
How is that possible? She first must be charged and then found guilty, n'est ce pas?
Isn't that what a pardon means?
 

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She's also facing state charges? When did that happen?
I don't think a state is allowed to charge her until the Federal case is done, no? Can they run those concurrently?
I was under the assumption there were state charges involved. As several things happened in NY. I could be wrong.

Anyway there is no way he will pardon her. It would end his business empire for sure.

One week to the release of hundreds of pages of deposition and information. And lots of juicy stuff from the look of it.
 

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I was under the assumption there were state charges involved. As several things happened in NY. I could be wrong.

Anyway there is no way he will pardon her. It would end his business empire for sure.
I thought (I'm not a lawyer) that the Florida was a federal deal so I thought the only way to crack that nut was at a federal level. You are correct that only federal crimes can be pardoned by the president.

Nothing would topple his organization as fast as pedeophile charges - that would be avoided at all costs.
 

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You Can "pre pardon". Ford did that for Nixon.
No chance he'd pardon her before the election. It's one thing to pardon Stone, but to pardon a pedophile enabler would be an epic disaster even by Bunker Bitch's standards. After the election he's not gonna care about anything and will just go hog wild.
 

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to pardon a pedophile enabler would be an epic disaster even by Bunker Bitch's standards.
Keep saying, his only standards are double, since he thinks he's at least twice as deserving as anyone else living.

Do you think he'll pardon Martha Stewart?
 

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Trump is in office today, isn't he? He can pardon her today, if he wanted to.
Uh, she has to be convicted in a court of law for Trump to pardon her.

She won't see the inside of a court room for a couple of years. Hopefully Bonespurs is just a shit stain of a bad memory by then.
 

danmand

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Uh, she has to be convicted in a court of law for Trump to pardon her.

She won't see the inside of a court room for a couple of years. Hopefully Bonespurs is just a shit stain of a bad memory by then.
He can pardon her pre trial
 

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She will give a statement saying that Epstein ran a pedo empire, together with Biden and the Clintons and that Trump just flew to the island to protect the girls. And then Bill Barr will personally take over the prosecution and give her immunity.
 

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The official trial has yet to start but the secret trial and negotiations are well underway and have been for sometime between Maxwell and various bad actors who are very worried for their futures and other third parties who know what the bad actors have done. The plot involves Maxwell, the US State Department, the Mossad, the UK Royal Family and many others like the Clintons and the POTUS. Lots of money and deals are changing hands now well before the trial which may already have been rigged into a sham show trial or maybe it will be a real trial, who knows.
 

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She's not dead yet? Incredible!
If she lives, then she can see like a canary. If she is murdered then dead women don't tell any tales or do they ? Hidden video footage of what transpired on the islands could be rigged to go off if she is wacked. What Epstein, Maxwell and the CIA, FBI and Mossad did in this case is classic honey trapping of some of the world's most arrogant ultra wealthy men. I do not believe that the whole truth will be ever be allowed to come out.

Below is some 2010 footage of Prince Andrew waving to a young lady leaving Epstein's place with Epstein.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/hvjlh2
 
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