Yeah, it won't be a barnburner. War movies aren't that popular. Hell, Fury only made around $80M domestically, $23M in opening weekend, and it starred Brad Pitt and involved US soldiers.
Dunkirk
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Times change but Saving Private Ryan made $481 million, $30.5 million alone on its opening weekend in 1998.
The French also spared Paris from destruction in 1870 and 1815 when they also surrendered to the German army. Paris is the most frequently un-destroyed city in Europe.
"Is Paris Burning?" No, a German General disobeyed Hitler's order to burn Paris.
And in the 21st century, Paris has survived at least 5 actual and 100 foiled Islamic terror attacks.
Sold on Spielberg's name as a director of super-movies and the high budget effects-laden trailer. I doubt any other war movie has come close, with perhaps the exception of Platoon.
Steven Spielberg is also a film fan, he made SPR after watching the 1993 film Stalingrad. The battle scenes in SPR are shot similar to the 1st person perspective of the Klaus Vilsmeier film. The lead actor Thomas Kretschmann has built an eclectic career from that film (Downfall, King Kong, 24, Blade II, The Pianist......).
Spielberg considers it one of the best war films ever made.
Spielberg considers it one of the best war films ever made.
The Germans didn't destroy Paris in 1870, French radicals did in 1871 (The Paris Commune).
You're missing the joke. I implied that the French continually surrendered using the excuse that they "were saving Paris". It wasn't mean to be a serious comment.
In any event, the Paris Commune didn't destroy much of anything, except the local dog and cat population when they ran out of food. Haussman on the other hand.....
Hyperbole my dear Aardie hyperbole. The Communards didn't destroy Paris, the only ruled the city for 4 months.
Georges Hausmann's restructuring of the Paris street grid made it impossible for the the Communards to set up effective barricades, the revolt was quickly put down. The 1848 Revolution was much more damaging to Paris since it was still a Medieval city in it's layout, the fighting went from house to house and the loss of life was high.
Georges Hausmann's restructuring of the Paris street grid made it impossible for the the Communards to set up effective barricades, the revolt was quickly put down. The 1848 Revolution was much more damaging to Paris since it was still a Medieval city in it's layout, the fighting went from house to house and the loss of life was high.
They burned the Tuileries Palace which was entirely destroyed, and the Hôtel de Ville (which was able to be rebuilt from the shell of the building). Further and not least six hostages held by the Commune (Martyrs of the Paris Commune) including the Archbishop of Paris were murdered by the Commune as were also Generals Clément-Thomas and Lecomte and a number of others.
SPOILER ALERT.
I endured this mind busting rollercoaster for the second time recently, the IMAX was sold out the first time. I had to look up some items that I thought were for dramatic effect but are instead factual.
Rotterdam was the first city in WW II to be fire bombed, in succession, Coventry, Belgrade, Hamburg and Dresden were the others. Dutch vessels did come to the aid of the British flotilla during the evacuation. The Nazi's were in breach of the Geneva Convention when they sank medical ship. The Spitfire was a very adaptable fighter plane, when low on fuel it was a very dependable glider. They were also more maneuverable than the Heinkel He 51 during dog fights. The Germans deployed the Messerschmitt Me 210 for the Battle of Britain. After that battle, the Nazi's didn't have enough aircraft for Operation Barbarossa. The wartime exploits of RAF Wing Commander Alan Deere became the basis for the 1963 film, The Great Escape.
Best performance in the film: Cillian Murphy.
I endured this mind busting rollercoaster for the second time recently, the IMAX was sold out the first time. I had to look up some items that I thought were for dramatic effect but are instead factual.
Rotterdam was the first city in WW II to be fire bombed, in succession, Coventry, Belgrade, Hamburg and Dresden were the others. Dutch vessels did come to the aid of the British flotilla during the evacuation. The Nazi's were in breach of the Geneva Convention when they sank medical ship. The Spitfire was a very adaptable fighter plane, when low on fuel it was a very dependable glider. They were also more maneuverable than the Heinkel He 51 during dog fights. The Germans deployed the Messerschmitt Me 210 for the Battle of Britain. After that battle, the Nazi's didn't have enough aircraft for Operation Barbarossa. The wartime exploits of RAF Wing Commander Alan Deere became the basis for the 1963 film, The Great Escape.
Best performance in the film: Cillian Murphy.
It's not a mystery. There are several reasons and historians are well aware of them. In retrospect it was a mistake. In the fog of war that the Germans were operating in at the time, the senior decision makers made a decision that ended up being wrong. There's no mystery.
Keebler Elf what are you referring to?
My info is slightly off, the first city/town to be fire bombed is Guernica. That was during the Spanish Civil War and the Italians took part.
My info is slightly off, the first city/town to be fire bombed is Guernica. That was during the Spanish Civil War and the Italians took part.
Coming in late, so sorry for rehashing, but at this stage in the war, Hitler still had a belief that there was a chance that Britain and Germany's loose royal ties would help them come around and stop fighting Germany. Leaving the German army to continue without fear of the British interfering on the Continent.
I knew almost nothing about the Dunkirk WW2 history going into the movie last week; but, I thought it was a really terrific film.
It isn't really a conventional plot driven war movie like Fury or Hacksaw Ridge; but, the cinematography is through the roof fantastic. The movie is really a strong visceral experience.
I saw it in Ultra AVX format rather than IMAX ;but, you still feel like you're in the airplanes or battleships when they're being attacked.
I would like to see Nolan or someone else do the background story behind the sinking of the HMS Hood and the sinking of the Bismarck in WW2.
That would be a really expensive story to tell; but, I don't think it's ever been done on the large screen.
It isn't really a conventional plot driven war movie like Fury or Hacksaw Ridge; but, the cinematography is through the roof fantastic. The movie is really a strong visceral experience.
I saw it in Ultra AVX format rather than IMAX ;but, you still feel like you're in the airplanes or battleships when they're being attacked.
I would like to see Nolan or someone else do the background story behind the sinking of the HMS Hood and the sinking of the Bismarck in WW2.
That would be a really expensive story to tell; but, I don't think it's ever been done on the large screen.
It's been done before but a film about the Bismarck is overdue for an update, heavy CGI. Michael Fassbender can play Captain Lindemann.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054310/?ref_=nv_sr_1
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054310/?ref_=nv_sr_1
I felt somewhat cheated that I didn't get to see the trailer for Darkest Hour in IMAX. Instead I got a cheesy trailer for Justice League - Ben Affleck sucks ass.
Eating crow on this one. Dunkirk is crushing it critically and at the box office.
I knew a little about Dunkirk.
I agree with you KT that it's not conventional plot driven, like those films you mentioned or Saving Private Ryan.
You need to be alert. Don't go see it if you're tired.
Enjoyed it on the Ultra AVX screen too.
Yes, I'd like to see a NEW film about the sinking of the Bismarck.
