Dunkirk

Why did Hitler not send in the tanks? The Brits were trapped with their back to the Channel.
His chief of the air force convinced him to use the air power first.
Ok, but the Brits countered that with the RAF that provided air cover for the escape.
Yes, it's been suggested that Goering wanted Hitler to keep the panzers ets back out of the way, so that his Luftwaffe could destroy the British Expeditionary Force trapped at Dunkirk.
However, there is no evidence that such a plea was ever made.
(Perhaps the source of the rumour is the fact that, in 1942, Goering did prevail on Hitler to let the Luftwaffe save the cut-off German armies at Stalingrad, by supplying them from the air -- which H did agree to (it looked a better bet than surrendering to the Russians.)
Dunkirk was within easy reach of the British airfields on the south coast, and the RAF in fact made a very large contribution to the evacuation (Many of the air battles were fought out of sight of the Dunkirk beaches, so that the men of the BEF, queueing for hours up to their necks in water, 'Where's the bloody RAF?')

Field Marshall Guderian and Tank Commander Rommel wanted to go full speed ahead into Dunkirk.
The evidence is that they did indeed want to. Hitler had been ordering Guderian to slow down for several days, but G continued his breakneck advance by sending out "scout-patrols", which met little opposition. But on 26 May, Hitler issued a direct unequivocal order to Guderian, to stop. G at this time had taken Calais and Gravelines (10 mi west of Dunkirk) and wanted to push eastwards, thereby squashing the BEF between himself and Army Group B which was driving in from the north-east.

We know now that there was nothing to stop Guderian from doing exactly that, so that Hitler's order now looks like the biggest blunder of the war. However, Hitler did not have that hindsight.

The best explanation why Hitler stopped Guderian is not that he wanted to give Goering his way, nor that the tanks could not advance over the muddy ground, nor that he thought the British, once gone, would never dare to come back.

The best explanation is that Hitler feared a strong French counter-attack from the south, which he feared might trap Guderian between the French and the BEF at Dunkirk. But the French forces in the area were in fact dug in around Dunkirk, and they contributed greatly to the evacuation -- most of them being themselves captured.

As early as 20 May, plans were made for evacuating small groups of stragglers from the Dunkirk area. It was considered that, with luck, as many as 45,000 could be brought home that way.
By 26 May, there was no other choice but Dunkirk. But the problem was the shallow water, and the big ships could not get in close. On 28 May, the call went out for 'small boats', to ferry the soldiers off the beach to the ships. An amazing 800 small boats, from as far away as Scotland, made the trip to Dunkirk.

On 29 May, Hitler finally unleashed Guderian to attack Dunkirk from the west. But the BEF (and the French) now had prepared defences, and were able to hold them up. On 29 May 47,000 were brought out; 30 May 54,000; 31 May 68,000. The operation ended 4 June, by which time an unbelievable 338,000 soldiers had been evacuated, including 224,000 British.

As we now know, of course there was no invasion. Many consider that it would never have succeeded anyway. Although the RAF was barely a match for the Luftwaffe, the hugely capable Royal Navy, in the Channel, was geared up to prevent exactly that.

If Britain had been invaded, or even had sought peace terms with Germany, who knows what that would have led to? The Dunkirk evacuation did not prevent invasion by itself -- but it helped.
Whatever Hitler's motive for the three-day delay, we should all give thanks for his priceless gift.
 
I have the impression that Hitler was never hostile towards
the British in the pre-war years. He might have even wished
to make the U.K. an ally at some point I guess.
 
Why the German's stopped is still a mystery. From readings, Hitler had his generals stop because her had a soft spot for England. This gave the English time to organize and effect a rescue, while his generals scratched their heads. I'll see if I can pull this info up again. I think it was from a book about if Hitler won and where is blunders were.
 
I doubt that, the way Russians were going by late 1944 nothing was going to stop them. I'm sure Germany would have allocated more resources to the east to try fend off the Russians, but they were steam rolling over every german position at that point. Having said that, maybe his invasion of Russia would have been totally different had the germans captured Dunkirk.

I don't think so, the RAF would not have been weakened and so the Battle of Britain would have played out in relatively the same fashion. It is possible the Germans would have done better in Africa, but in the end the Russians would have delivered the same death blow they did, Hitler still would have declared war against the Americans etc etc. So I doubt it would have added much to the length of the war but it may have resulted in the Germans being nuked.
 
So I doubt it would have added much to the length of the war but it may have resulted in the Germans being nuked.
How close did the Nazis come to creating the BOMB? Also, they did put the ME-262 into action before the war ended.
 
If the Germans had taken out Dunkirk, it would have bought them time to develop their V-1 Rockets and the Messerschmitt 262 Jet Fighters. Also, Krupp and Porsche would have had the time to get more Tigrpanzers into filed against the Soviets. The Tiger Tank is an engineering marvel, the chassis and armour built by Krupp powered by a Porsche engine.

 
Tom Hardy has an insane schedule for the next couple of years but he's always maintained that he'll make room for whatever Nolan offers him. I have a hunch that with Dunkirk, Nolan is going to make him look VERY good.

 
Christopher Nolan has always been shrewd in conducting his business. He knew that he had to win over a faction of the Hollywood establishment to make the films he wanted. So he went after the Italians. He cast the highly respected Joe Pantoliano in Memento. Then he took the risky move in loaning himself out to Al Pacino for Insomnia. A director had already been fired and Nolan, subordinate to Pacino, could have suffered the same fate. The Batman franchise hung in the balance but it worked. Alfredo loved Nolan. After Insomnia wrapped, Alfredo made the Warner Bros execs an offer they couldn't refuse and Nolan got the Batman franchise.

The meaning of respect - Italian men don't drink tea!

 
If Britain was forced to sit out the war, that would have freed another 1-2 million Nazi soldiers for the Eastern Front.
 
If the Germans had taken out Dunkirk, it would have bought them time to develop their V-1 Rockets and the Messerschmitt 262 Jet Fighters. Also, Krupp and Porsche would have had the time to get more Tigrpanzers into filed against the Soviets. The Tiger Tank is an engineering marvel, the chassis and armour built by Krupp powered by a Porsche engine.


All true. Except, by the time the jet ME arrived, Germans were out of fuel and out of pilots. The V weapons were a technological leap, but the British rendered the V1 impotent by using polished Mustangs and massive AA fire. V2, while superior to anything, had short range and a guidance system only good enough to attack large urban areas. The electroboat U-Boats were a technological marvel. None of them were completed in time to make a difference. And even if they did, so what? Same story with tanks. Nazis had the best tanks, but they could never produce enough of them. The moment Hitler declare war on America, he sealed his faith. The German economy had no more chance against the American economic output than Japan.
 
If Britain was forced to sit out the war, that would have freed another 1-2 million Nazi soldiers for the Eastern Front.

They should've sat out the WWI.
 
How close did the Nazis come to creating the BOMB? Also, they did put the ME-262 into action before the war ended.

Not remotely close as it turns out. The British were not that far behind on jet fighters. Like I said it would not have extended the war very much at all.
 
If the Germans had taken out Dunkirk, it would have bought them time to develop their V-1 Rockets and the Messerschmitt 262 Jet Fighters. Also, Krupp and Porsche would have had the time to get more Tigrpanzers into filed against the Soviets. The Tiger Tank is an engineering marvel, the chassis and armour built by Krupp powered by a Porsche engine.


The Tiger was an impressive tank, but a Sturmovic would still easily kill it. The T34 could kill it as well
 
Dunkirk -- the movie will debut on July 21, 2017.

BTW: May 8th is the anniversary of V-E Day. Russia rehearsing to-day for the parade on May 9th.
 
Grace Randolph is such a Valley Girl. The new trailer for Dunkirk has come out, it's awesome, all she could say was. " Ahhh, he's (Tom Hardy) covering his face again.

 
I love a good war movie, but that was an underwhelming trailer. Too much focus on joe fisherman and guys in the water.

This is Nolan Oscar bait. The North American box office will completely ignore this film.
 
I love a good war movie, but that was an underwhelming trailer. Too much focus on joe fisherman and guys in the water.

This is Nolan Oscar bait. The North American box office will completely ignore this film.
Well Canadian troops weren't on the beach at Dunkirk, and in the United States the war suddenly began on December 7, 1941 and nothing in Europe from September 1939 until that date, or in China even earlier was remembered after that date.

So sadly you may well be correct about North American audiences.