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Don't diss the Canadian Military

TeeJay

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Those suicide bombers may be brave, but they are brainwashed too. They aren't heroes in my book.
To be fair, ALL people in the army (whether Canadian or ISIS) are "brainwashed"
An army can NOT be effective without a soldier being willing to accept (blindly) any order (even one that will obviously lead to his/her own death)
 

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Drones can inflict collateral damage on civilians.

Snipers can target single targets, which can be effective, especially for key enemy personnel, or they can target a group and eliminate them through a process of attrition.
Do understand that a sniper from that distance is VERY likely to miss target or hit wrong target
No matter how good the sniper was there is no way they could repeat that shot without making bad shot many times over

A sniper is worthless in a war of attrition
Their stated value is a cheap shot at a high profile target
 

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This entire thread is about sniping and the guy who builds carries and buries an IED is a coward?
Your head is on backwards
Please help me understand your perspective.

If the person who builds and buries an IED is NOT a coward, as you suggest, would he be a hero?
 

TeeJay

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Please help me understand your perspective.

If the person who builds and buries an IED is NOT a coward, as you suggest, would he be a hero?
You can not see how the IED bomber takes far more brave - ery than the sniper we are discussing? (Again to repeat what I posted above, building and handling a very dangerous device, then infiltrating an area your enemy frequents, concealing the device, and getting out of there without being seen?)

Or even for that matter, why is an IED bomb a cowards weapon but a B52 pilot is a war hero?


*again to mods, why the fuck is the word "b r a v e r y" getting censored???
We say so much shit on here it baffles me that word gets flagged
 

TeeJay

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Oh apparently the Trudeau government is paying out Khadr too

Considering they have video of him building IEDs and he is not the only terrorist in his family this must be a huge slap in the face to anyone associated with the military

C'mon lets hear your rage :)

According to the Sun his entire family cheated immigration process and collects welfare also
 

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"Don't diss the Canadian military"

Don't know where things currently stand, but when I was an officer most senior officers within our NATO allies would listen to junior Canadian officers. We don't have the funding... does the West Edmonton Mall still have more subs? ... but we have the training, intelligence and pride to be reckoned with.

The German storm troopers in WWII are self named after the name they gave to the fiercest opponents they faced in WWI .... the Canadians. We were new, unencumbered by old regimented ideals and basically threw platoons of Wendel Clark over the lines breaking all the rules... and we whooped ass. The Germans were terrified of those farm boys who didn't die for king and country, they died for the other boys in their pack.

Anyway, the Canadians have been fearless, innovative and mostly nice along the way, and on Canada 150 I'm holding up a glass of the best champagne I can find to toast the unsung bastards that have enabled me to live safely in the best country you can live in.
Amen, amen and amen, Hof.
 

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Amen, amen and amen, Hof.
Agree. I don't understand why some people who proclaim themselves proud Canadians are constantly bashing Canada and Canadian institutions. What kind of sick joy do they get out of it?

I LOVE CANADA! This will really piss off the Canada bashers and they will accuse me of being alt-right (whatever that means).
 

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Do understand that a sniper from that distance is VERY likely to miss target or hit wrong target
No matter how good the sniper was there is no way they could repeat that shot without making bad shot many times over

A sniper is worthless in a war of attrition
Their stated value is a cheap shot at a high profile target

A sniper is not worthless in a war of attrition.

A sniper sows the seeds of fear in the enemy, that they can be killed at any time and from an unseen foe. One sniper team can be worth more than their given number with this skill on the battlefield.
 

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Kudos to our men and women in the armed forces! Who else will protect and defend our shared values of diversity and multiculturalism?
 

TeeJay

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A sniper is not worthless in a war of attrition.
A sniper sows the seeds of fear in the enemy, that they can be killed at any time and from an unseen foe. One sniper team can be worth more than their given number with this skill on the battlefield.
Overall worthless in terms of actual attrition. Yes there is a psychological advantage in using them.

But again going back to what we were discussing above; by your very same logic, a few suicide bombers or IED mules have just as much worth as a sniper then.

THAT is why we are "dissing" the Canadian military. Because somehow our tactics are "acceptable" and we call them "heros" when at same time enemy deploys similar tactics and we cry how unfair they are and how they are "cowards"
It is total bullshit, that door swings both ways whether anyone cares to admit it or not.
 

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A sniper is a tool, a method, a tactic. If a sniper accomplishes his mission by fear or attrition then there is value in the use of snipers. There are other methods in war that have disadvantages and advantages.
 

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Overall worthless in terms of actual attrition. Yes there is a psychological advantage in using them.

But again going back to what we were discussing above; by your very same logic, a few suicide bombers or IED mules have just as much worth as a sniper then.

THAT is why we are "dissing" the Canadian military. Because somehow our tactics are "acceptable" and we call them "heros" when at same time enemy deploys similar tactics and we cry how unfair they are and how they are "cowards"
It is total bullshit, that door swings both ways whether anyone cares to admit it or not.


Apples and oranges.

Terrorists mostly attack soft civilian targets, rather than military, which is cowardly and yes, unacceptable. This is NOT in any way similar to what a sniper does. To equate what terrorists do as a war of attrition is ludicrous, as their methods are to sow the seeds of terror in the general public, not to engage militarily in battle. The current engagement with ISIS/IL is different in these terms, as there is an armed engagement with the belligerents engaging in battle over real estate. One sniper team that can take out key players is an invaluable tool on the battlefield.

A war of attrition is a constant grinding down of your opponent, both in terms of body counts and psychologically, of which a sniper does both.

Your logic is flawed TeeJay.
 

TeeJay

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Apples and oranges.

Terrorists mostly attack soft civilian targets, rather than military, which is cowardly and yes, unacceptable. This is NOT in any way similar to what a sniper does. To equate what terrorists do as a war of attrition is ludicrous, as their methods are to sow the seeds of terror in the general public, not to engage militarily in battle. The current engagement with ISIS/IL is different in these terms, as there is an armed engagement with the belligerents engaging in battle over real estate. One sniper team that can take out key players is an invaluable tool on the battlefield.

A war of attrition is a constant grinding down of your opponent, both in terms of body counts and psychologically, of which a sniper does both.

Your logic is flawed TeeJay.
What IEDs have you ever seen deployed in western society?
They are obviously targeting military targets (they publish death and injury counts) not civilians.
An engineer may not be carrying a military issue weapon, but if he is working for the invaders he is still an acceptable target.
 

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What IEDs have you ever seen deployed in western society?
They are obviously targeting military targets (they publish death and injury counts) not civilians.
An engineer may not be carrying a military issue weapon, but if he is working for the invaders he is still an acceptable target.
Ever heard of mine fields. While not improvised they are still digging them up.
 

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The current engagement with ISIS/IL is different in these terms, as there is an armed engagement with the belligerents engaging in battle over real estate.
ISIS is using humans as shields and using female suicide bombers carrying babies to try to avoid detection.
 

TeeJay

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ISIS is using humans as shields and using female suicide bombers carrying babies to try to avoid detection.
No

NEWS REPORTERS are CLAIMING that ISIS is using human shields and baby bombers
Total myth (when was the last time you saw a bomber + baby involved in a confirmed source?)

Again that strikes back at heart of the matter

During WW2 everyone cursed the Germans and their cowardly ways
Then it was all the cowards in SE Asia
The cowards in Central America
Now cowards in Middle East

It's pathetic at this point anyone believes in the term war hero
They all are doing the same thing
Canadian military is no better, no worse than those we fight against
 
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