That's their problem not ours. But, they do have countless "brave (your word)" suicide bombers.ISIS could never have air superiority right?
That's their problem not ours. But, they do have countless "brave (your word)" suicide bombers.ISIS could never have air superiority right?
And you think your opinion is worth $.00000000000001, lol. Sorry, you have a much over valued view of what you have to say. It means absolutely nothing. You call a soldier a "coward" and a "joke" for doing something that he was tasked to do. He was following orders given to him and he succeeded but in your eyes he is a coward and a joke. Like I said, look in the mirror and what you will see is a loser who has no idea what he is saying.So nothing on your random link to back up your pov? Just some more random online posters who cheer for army?
Ok then
Case closed
Multiple posts yet not one fact
You just trying to run up our post counts
5 posts about sucking thumbs & sitting on ass at a job they dislike?Oh yea, sit on their ass sucking their thumb like you do!!!!!
And since you have the intelligence of the squirrel who tried to cross a busy road but was unfortunately squashed by a vehicle, lol (referring to your intelligence not the dead squirrel):5 posts about sucking thumbs & sitting on ass at a job they dislike?
I think someone is projecting
lol and the FACT that you find it so DIFFICULT to justify the sniper position is an answer in and of itself
The entire dispute was started by your two comments that somehow when I asked you to justify sent you off into a tirade of personal attacks and random opinions lol
Since you have the attention span of a squirrel:
1- How is sniping a person "better" than other means of warfare (your example was bombing, mine was arresting a terrorist who was going to do something in western country instead of summary execution in his own country)
2- How is being a sniper 2+ miles away from danger in any way "brave" (you linked a site that talked about WW2, Nam, and airstrikes, none of which are applicable to ISIS, I call sniper a coward position same as drone operator)
Actually speaking of drones; you do realize they make the entire sniper position pointless and irrelevant anyways right?
Wow "guilt by association" huh1. You are suggesting that we send someone into a foreign enemy territory and "arrest" the person who has been responsible for the deaths, directly and/or directly, of innocent individuals throughout the world.
Again *what* crimes?The fact that this person has committed such crimes, their right to live has been forfeited in my opinion.
Of course we are safe from some phantom invasion by an ISIS armyWe are by no means ‘safe’. Often sniper teams are sent ahead of the main force to elimimate key personnel, this puts us away from any assistance or logistics a normal rifleman will have access to.
Your reading comprehension appears to also be lackingTalk about the attention span of a squirrel, now you bring up drones when the topic is sniping.
What war? This is genocide by a strong military power against a group of civiliansYou don't win a war by standing toe to toe and playing fair.
Great examples of conquering nationsCripes when English longbowman ruled the roost were they cowards? How about Roman Legions and their Squares?
Well said soldier....I'll drink to that!Anyway, the Canadians have been fearless, innovative and mostly nice along the way, and on Canada 150 I'm holding up a glass of the best champagne I can find to toast the unsung bastards that have enabled me to live safely in the best country you can live in.
TeeJay, TeeJay, TeeJay, nothing more to say to you. You have proven just how much of an idiot you are just trying to defend what you started. You are not worth any more time because frankly, you aren't worth it. For someone to take your stand on this just for the sake of wanting to argue......... Grow some balls. Walk up to some of the brave and honorable members of our military and tell them what you are spewing here. Who is the coward and joke now????? Yea, thought so.Wow "guilt by association" huh
You do understand that being a member of an organization does not equal a death sentence I hope?
Again *what* crimes?
Unless the terrorist in question boarded a plane, flew to a western country, killed (or attempted to kill) a person, then flew back they have not committed any crimes
And thats even assuming it is the right guy (again with a 2+ mile shot for all we know the army sniped the terrorists friend who was standing right next to him)
Your comments about police are incredibly stupid (eg sending Canadian police into a foreign country lol) the issue at hand is why army thinks they should be enforcing (attempting intimidation) on a criminal in another country
They are there illegally
Of course we are safe from some phantom invasion by an ISIS army
They have absolutely no means of landing an army on even a Euro country much less Canada
Only an idiot thinks every immigrant is a sleeper cell ready to rise up and overwhelm us
PS if this was a "key personnel" you have no doubt military would be crowing about how they knocked off this guy in ISIS by name
Instead the snipers were taking pot shots at (hopefully) low level scum, or worse at civilians
Again, cowards
Every one of them
Your reading comprehension appears to also be lacking
I think it was very clear I told you that sniping = coward AND that drone operator = coward
In both cases (which I said are equal) there is no way either should be called words like "brave" or "hero" or whatnot
Both are not real members of an army and both sit back from real action
What war? This is genocide by a strong military power against a group of civilians
A couple suicide bombers in western countries (actually has any of the suicide bombers ever originated from Iraq? I don't think so)
So our army takes this as an excuse to invade a foreign country?
Great examples of conquering nations
See both the English & Romans were not DEFENDING
They were EXPANDING
TeeJay, the general public of those ISIS-infected countries, do NOT support them. They're just scared to shit in defying them. Local police forces have no control. Why do you think there is mass migration of refugees (apart from the wars against ISIS)?But do we care? Let Isis have those countries if the people support them
Waste of resources to try and fight an army that the general public supports
Same thing as Vietnam all over again
Oh this is good would love to hear the reason behind it
See in law, if a person commits a terrorist act they have a trial, get convicted, and go to prison
Our legal system does not allow people to get murdered
Our police get fried in newspapers if they even draw a weapon first
A sniper is at best a fucking coward
And our army is at best a joke
Agree about Viet Nam.The general public supports Isis? I knew that whole refugee crisis was one big hoax lol.
I think Isis is not the same as Vietnam, Isis wont stop taking countries until they achieve world domination. Look how fast they moved before military intervention began.
Amen to this post and your subsequent ones.The law is meant to protect citizens from each other and the state. The safeguards embedded within our laws are predicated on the assumption that the state has vastly more power than the individual are are designed to ensure the power of the state is not abused. The system is designed with failsafes that favour the individual based on the (correct) assumption that it is better to have a few unpunished criminals loose in society than to hand the government the tools of tyranny.
Dealing with ISIS and political Islam does not fall into the framework described above. Political Islam is a well organized and well funded state-like organization that has the overthrow of western democracy as its goal. Political Islam is waging an asymmetric war to this end. The failsafes found in normal law are based on assumptions that are simply not valid in this context; we are not dealing with individuals who, on their own, pose no threat to the existence of the nation. We are dealing with members of an organization who are willing and able to destroy our way of life. In short, dealing with political Islam is not a matter of law, but rather a matter of war and must be pursued as such.
I have worked with some of our snipers. They do things that I wouldn't even dream of doing; and I don't scare easily. They spend a lot of their time alone in enemy country. The only thing that keeps them alive is their skill in movement and concealment. If they get caught they are on their own, a two man sniper team up against a large number of very angry enemies who like to burn people alive.
Further, war is not a sport and the point isn't to play fair. The point is to get your job done while keeping your guys safe as possible.
Snipers are employed by ISIS too.Many funny irate posts from our redneck community but this is the best of them
How "brave" is it to sit 2+ miles away sniping at targets who can not possibly fire back at you? As much danger as playing a video game lol
Fuck by this scenario I am sorry but even the suicide bombers are more brave since there is a very real chance they get caught without fulfilling their objective
*edit weird terb filter? Why the fuck is brave - er censored???
touche!the cowards are the ones running around in the dark of night burying ied's. Too afraid to fight mano a mano.
No they don't.5 posts about sucking thumbs & sitting on ass at a job they dislike?
I think someone is projecting
lol and the FACT that you find it so DIFFICULT to justify the sniper position is an answer in and of itself
The entire dispute was started by your two comments that somehow when I asked you to justify sent you off into a tirade of personal attacks and random opinions lol
Since you have the attention span of a squirrel:
1- How is sniping a person "better" than other means of warfare (your example was bombing, mine was arresting a terrorist who was going to do something in western country instead of summary execution in his own country)
2- How is being a sniper 2+ miles away from danger in any way "brave" (you linked a site that talked about WW2, Nam, and airstrikes, none of which are applicable to ISIS, I call sniper a coward position same as drone operator)
Actually speaking of drones; you do realize they make the entire sniper position pointless and irrelevant anyways right?
They know where the enemy might be (if they knew where they all were 100% of the time, we'd have more bombings or drone strikes take them out in groups).Reading some of the comments, war is a funny thing when you think of it.
On one hand, laws are set so that people and police can't go around shooting like Dirty Harry.
But when it comes to war (especially in other countries), it's like a no holds barred shoot-a-thon. OK, maybe that was a ISIS guy. But was he actively shooting back or terrorizing anyone? Maybe not. Maybe he was chilling out eating dinner with family. Or maybe he was just relaxing outside. No harm, no guns or anything.
So the military still has the right to shoot first, ask questions later?
The difference between conducting a war and policing a civil society has already been clearly explained.1- How is sniping a person "better" than other means of warfare (your example was bombing, mine was arresting a terrorist who was going to do something in western country instead of summary execution in his own country)
In answer to your first question; Once the shot has been taken the sniper switches from predator to prey. See my previous posts.2- How is being a sniper 2+ miles away from danger in any way "brave" (you linked a site that talked about WW2, Nam, and airstrikes, none of which are applicable to ISIS, I call sniper a coward position same as drone operator)
Actually speaking of drones; you do realize they make the entire sniper position pointless and irrelevant anyways right?
hahaThe cowards are the ones running around in the dark of night burying IED's. Too afraid to fight mano a mano.