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Canadian military who crashed indigenous ceremony suspended
5 July 2017

General Jonathan Vance (L) has condemned the actions of five servicemen
Five members of the Canadian Armed Forces are facing possible expulsion from the military after crashing an indigenous event on Canada Day.
General Jonathan Vance, Canada's top soldier, has opened an investigation into the weekend incident and has called it "deplorable".
Video from the day shows a tense exchange between the servicemen and people attending the ceremony.
One claims they are members of an alt-right group called "Proud Boys".
That group describes itself on Facebook as "a fraternal organisation of Western Chauvinists who will no longer apologise for creating the modern world".
Among the values they cite are minimal government, anti-political correctness, closed borders, anti-racial guilt, anti-racism, glorifying the entrepreneur and venerating the housewife.
In video from Saturday's confrontation, the servicemen are seen carrying Canada's former "Red Ensign" flag, which includes the Union flag and went out of official use in 1965 after being replaced by the maple leaf design.
One woman is heard asking: "What caused you to feel the need to bring a British flag?"
One man responds: "Because it's a British colony."
"You're recognising your heritage and so are we," another says.
After about 10 minutes, the group leaves the park.
Gen Vance, Canada's Chief of the Defence Staff, said in a statement that he "detests any action by a Canadian Armed Forces member that is intended to show disrespect towards the very people and cultures we value in Canada".
He adds: that any military member "who is not prepared to be the defender we need them to be will face severe consequences, including release from the forces".
Gen Vance said the servicemen involved have been removed from active duty and that their future in the military is in doubt.
A sixth armed forces member was also involved but is not under review, according to a National defence spokesperson.
The First Nations ceremony held by a small group of protesters in Halifax on Canada Day was meant to mark the country's troubled history with indigenous peoples. It was held next to the statue of the city's founder, British military officer Edward Cornwallis.
Halifax is in the midst of a long debate over how the city commemorates Cornwallis, who in 1749 placed a bounty on the scalps of Mi'kmaq people after they rebelled against the British.
 

TeeJay

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So natives protest that Canada Day = genocide
Some guys (who just so happen to be in the army) crash their protest and lose their jobs over it?
Why?

http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/im...7/7/1/6f4a9ea6c8d5446b8597e7f25f67114c_18.jpg

Actually defacing the flag like this is itself a criminal act so one must wonder how many natives were arrested

They also threatened Trudeau (who although he is an idiot is still the PM)

On Friday, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau met a small group inside the teepee.

Stoneypoint, who was not present at the meeting, said he viewed Trudeau's unannounced visted as a "violent act" that was only for "self-serving purposes".
 

Aardvark154

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So did they identify themselves in any way as being members of the CAF? The video does not show them doing so.

Then there is the practical how do you "crash an indigenous event" when said protest was being held in a public park?

The wisdom of what they did is a different matter.
 

oldjones

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So natives protest that Canada Day = genocide
Some guys (who just so happen to be in the army) crash their protest and lose their jobs over it?
Why?

http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/im...7/7/1/6f4a9ea6c8d5446b8597e7f25f67114c_18.jpg

Actually defacing the flag like this is itself a criminal act so one must wonder how many natives were arrested

They also threatened Trudeau (who although he is an idiot is still the PM)

On Friday, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau met a small group inside the teepee.

Stoneypoint, who was not present at the meeting, said he viewed Trudeau's unannounced visted as a "violent act" that was only for "self-serving purposes".
Some points of Information: They were "suspended from their assignments and training", they weren't fired and didn't "lose their jobs" as service personnel.

It is not a crime to deface the Canadian Flag, Google that phrase. We're not so uptight and reverential about pieces of cloth as our American cousins who are compelled as children to daily pledge allegiance to theirs and to some god dictated by Congress.

I can't speak to these supposed threats you mention, but whatever they were or were not, Trudeau wasn't frightened by them and refused to see talking with people of the Firts Natio0ns in their teepee as entering some sort of enemy camp.

My own opinion is that he's a liar, but clearly he's smart enough not to turn differing views into a needless and stupid family quarrel during a highly public celebration of coming together.
 

TeeJay

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Some points of Information: It is not a crime to deface the Canadian Flag, Google that phrase. We're not so uptight and reverential about pieces of cloth as our American cousins who are compelled as children to daily pledge allegiance to theirs and to some god dictated by Congress.
You are old

It used to not be a crime
Conservatives pushed this through and so far Libs have not repealed
Bill C288 introduced in 2011 royal assent granted 2012
You could have googled it yourself though but here is a link you old fart
http://www.parl.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?billId=5130534&Language=E&Mode=1

Or a more english description if law is too dry
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2011/09/29/flag_to_be_wrapped_in_new_law.html
 

TeeJay

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I can't speak to these supposed threats you mention, but whatever they were or were not, Trudeau wasn't frightened by them and refused to see talking with people of the Firts Natio0ns in their teepee as entering some sort of enemy camp.
Threats were made via social media not to Trudeau's face
We know these Indians are cowards
 
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