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Donald Trump reveals plans for second term
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Reading is your friend. Take your time and go through this slowly and absorb it fully.
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NATO-Russia: setting the record straight
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Apparently NATO has no plan of expansion into Russia in the near term.
Their immediate concern is Russian expansion into NATO-Europe. Hence,
they are scared by the prospect of being coerced into having to increase
military aid to Ukraine by Trump for their own protection. Europe only wants
to fight Putin on the cheap.
As I've said - "The point here is to punish Biden for his position" is fine.
I think it is wrong and short sighted, but its honest.
It is when you were lying about that being what you wanted that I objected.
Of course, it also leads to this well known problem.
From anyone.
If the US decides to invade Canada, then anyone sending support is going to be acceptable in a crisis.
Why would you expect any different?
Also, why on earth would accepting money from Russia be "communism"?
Russia isn't remotely a communist country.
You want to reward Biden for aiding genocide and spending $37 billion more on cops to help keep universities under control?
If Biden ignores that demographic, can the dems win?
This discussion about reward and punishment for politicians is really quite anti democratic.
If you really support democracy shouldn't you be arguing that you need to vote for the person that represents what you want in government?
Being 'pragmatic' just assures that US democracy will never have a need to support politicians you actually back.
Your problem is thinking of it in terms of "reward".
It isn't "anti-democratic", don't be so hard on yourself.
It is just a misunderstanding of how voting works in the system and what the effects of making electoral choices are.
But I agree, you need to stop thinking of it that way.
Yes.
I keep trying to get you to understand that it is about getting the government you want and not representing some moral act of purity on your part.
That you cannot wrap your mind around how the system works is a problem.
Again, I am sympathetic since people are taught this the wrong way.
The system is such that it fails the favorite betrayal criterion and so voting your favorite works against you getting the result you want.
That may suck, but it is a well known problem in plurality voting.
Given that there is a plurality voting system in place, you either deal with reality or you don't.
That is so hilarious.
You are the one that brought reward and punishment into this discussion as what you argued are the primary motivations.
I continued to argue that holding a moral line that says you can't vote for genocide is my primary motivation.
Now you argue its wrong to think in the terms you tried to frame the debate with?
It is anti democratic. You vote for the politician that best represents your views of government. Voting strategically or being 'pragmatic' is not good for democracy long term.
I don't think of it as punishment/reward.
Those are your views.
Feel free to keep them to yourself now.
Not getting a government that aids genocide is pretty primary, valcazar.
Never forget.
I know how poorly the system works.
But why shouldn't you do your best to try to make it change and work instead of voting for the least evil option and pushing it further down the road of disfunction?
Yes, because that's what you are doing.
"Holding a moral line that you can't vote for genocide" is exactly that.
"Biden did wrong, and must suffer punishment for it."
Because you have made it clear you aren't voting to effect the genocide in any way.
You have, in fact, argued that the genocide will be over by November and therefore not on the ballot at all.
Yes.
I understand you refuse to accept the reality of the voting system.
We've been over this and you are either going to educate yourself on that one day or not.
My guess is not.
I am sorry that the truth makes you uncomfortable.
But you aren't getting that with your vote.
You know this.
But you aren't "doing your best to try and to make it change and work instead".
You are burying your head in the sand and pretending it doesn't exist.
And I get it, "I won't vote for the lesser evil, I prefer more evil" is a choice you are fine with.
I'm not.
Again, you are mischaracterizing my views to reframe them within your own personal mandate.
From my position voters don't punish politicians, they choose whether to support them or not. To call it punishment infers they own my vote already and its just being mean to withhold it. I understand I don't control them and I owe no party any allegiance and my only power is to actively choose to support or not support a politician. Not to 'punish' them. That is your term and your frame work, which I disagree with. I find that logic to be anti democratic and even too pessimistic of the system you claim to support.
Ah yes, back to scolding me for not having taken your courses or bowing to your framework of how you think democracy works.
Back to scolding me for honouring Never Again.
Why would you think I'm uncomfortable?
I'll vote NDP here next election. In my riding they may win.
To return to your odd framework, I won't 'reward' aid to genocide.
You will.
For you, how does supporting the slightly less genocidal choice result in not just a series of ever more genocidal extremists?
How do you not do anything but aid the system to get slightly worse by supporting slightly less evil?
I don't think Putin cares about NATO expansion via admission of
Baltic nations Finland and Sweden as new members. It is Ukraine,
Moldova and Georgia that Russia has problems with. After the war
Russia won't likely see Ukraine joining NATO as much a security
concern as it was before the invasion. An interesting question to
emerge is whether NATO will want a broken Ukraine to be an ally.
How could anyone think of Trump as anything but a child. The evidence is just so much.
Sanders warns Biden: address working-class fears or risk losing to demagogue
Sanders warns Biden: address working-class anxieties or risk losing election to demagogue
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