I happened upon an interesting discussion on Twitter. One of our local favorites (hint...loves cats and claims she's funnier than you) was slamming guys who sent deposits back in 2020 and are only now reaching out to complete the transaction. I feel that if one doesn't explicitly set an end date then a client can reach out anytime. Each case is different. For instance a client giving a deposit back before the pandemic might now feel safe enough to engage with others. Wondering the collective take on this.
Deposits not valid?
- Thread starter Fulldeck
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Usually deposits have Conditions built in But if they're not stated yes They are open ended.
I've Mostly Ripped off in someway With deposit. Usually over disputes.
This doesn’t sound like a deposit. A deposit goes with an appointment already booked. It is to ensure the security of the booking.
This sounds like a pre-paid session and that should have an expiry date in my opinion. Rates could have changed between now and then for example.
That sounds like a snooze/lose situation. We are now in 2023. What have they been waiting for the last 3 years?
I am not a lawyer but I'll list my understanding of a deposit and those with more knowledge can jump in and correct my perception.
My understanding is that a deposit is a monetary commitment to purchase an item or use a service. The terms of the deposit are usually identified at the time the deposit is made. As the person/ company taking the deposit will with hold the item/service from all others - a cancellation of the transaction by the buyer can have a cancellation fee up to the value of the deposit (as previously agreed). If the provider decides not to provide the service, the complete deposit should be returned as I view the deposit as money held in escrow for the purposes of this transaction.
How far off is my understanding ?
My understanding is that a deposit is a monetary commitment to purchase an item or use a service. The terms of the deposit are usually identified at the time the deposit is made. As the person/ company taking the deposit will with hold the item/service from all others - a cancellation of the transaction by the buyer can have a cancellation fee up to the value of the deposit (as previously agreed). If the provider decides not to provide the service, the complete deposit should be returned as I view the deposit as money held in escrow for the purposes of this transaction.
How far off is my understanding ?
the ai says
In Canada, if no terms are stated regarding the expiration of a deposit, the deposit will typically be considered to be refundable until the service has been performed or the goods have been delivered. After that, the deposit would be considered to be applied to the purchase price of the service or goods.
Kiss your money good bye.
Why would anyone send a deposit before they book a time and get confirmation for that time?
Why would anyone send a deposit before they book a time and get confirmation for that time?
Why would you make an appointment then cancel it and try to rebook more than 2 years later?
Oh I agree. I have been vocal about not supporting deposit requests for years. I decline any pre-paid session a client wanted to do during COVID for this exact reason. I wouldn’t hold someone’s money for 3 years waiting for them to get service.
This is why I don’t do deposits. There is no contract. Which would have a timeline.
One can still honor the deposit and just add the cost of the higher 2023 fee. Either way, I blame the John for being a dumbass because the odds of collecting on this 3 years later in a nonregulated business are next to none.
Except you comment about me ALL the time. Another head I’m living rent free in.
Lovin’ it!!!!
And as a bonus. You agree with me about the 3 years but wanna fight like I’m wrong. Too fucking funny dude. Too fucking funny. Thanks for my morning laugh. This was a good one.
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Need far more information on this, OP. You left it way too open-ended.
Given the timeline, I imagine this is right around when COVID happened. So delayed appointments aren't a surprise. I would think returning the deposit in that case would be most appropriate. If, on the other hand, both client and provider agreed, in lieu of returning deposit, that it could be used towards a future appointment, then the deposit should be valid, unless the provider specified a time constraint on it. Otherwise it's effectively just stealing.
It'd be akin to getting a gift card with no stipulation of expiry date, then you use it three years later and discover they decided to simply take the money and run because "three years is too long".
Given the timeline, I imagine this is right around when COVID happened. So delayed appointments aren't a surprise. I would think returning the deposit in that case would be most appropriate. If, on the other hand, both client and provider agreed, in lieu of returning deposit, that it could be used towards a future appointment, then the deposit should be valid, unless the provider specified a time constraint on it. Otherwise it's effectively just stealing.
It'd be akin to getting a gift card with no stipulation of expiry date, then you use it three years later and discover they decided to simply take the money and run because "three years is too long".
My guess is that these were appointments that clients canceled due to Covid (2020). The provider probably said at the time that you could apply it to a later date, instead of forfeiting the deposit (because, hey, Covid).
This is true. But again, collect in a timely manner. At some point, if you don’t, you have to take some accountability for it.
Actually plenty of cards do that. Except they have the date showing now but only because of the uproar caused before. So it is not just escorts that have an issue with people coming 3 years after the fact.
Or ask for the deposit back immediately. Don't expect other people to look after your money and keep tabs on your potential future appointments.
Except you don't have a written agreement between you and an SP stating the amount, the service being performed, etc. Even if you had such a document, I don't think it would be legally enforceable anyway.
