OIC, so you pick and choose which points you want to take into consideration?
Try drawing it from 2008 through 2015 and see where it will end up on that trend!!
Deficit and Debt Deadbeat Drowns Province in Red Ink
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Try drawing it from 2008 through 2015 and see where it will end up on that trend!!
You fail stats every time, skoob.
That chart compares two different time lengths, that makes the difference look bigger.
You don't understand the concept of smoothing data for charts.
It does not compare time lengths. You can stretch the time length all you want and it wouldn't matter. The "y axis matters". ie Price. If the prices did not go up at all during Trudeau's tenure the red area would not be as vertically wide as the data shows now.
For example, if costs relatively remained stable during Trudeau's tenure after he took over in 2015, it would show less of an increase compared to Harper's tenure...
First off, where did I pick & choose if I drew a straight line from 1995 to present?
But because I feel like helping you overcome your chart reading challenges I've done as you've asked...
You can see that the trajectory of the timeline you asked for (Harper's tenure) goes off course when Trudeau took over. I was even generous and did not use the highest cost in 2022 otherwise the line would have been much steeper.
Once again I showed you the mathematical difference in the average percentage House price differences between Harper in his last eight years and Trudeau in his first eight years.
It was a 5.8% difference, and not an "Abnormal" difference like you alleged. You were proven to be wrong there!! But in 2015 it was on its steep path upwards. With the stress test etc. it seemed to have stabilized in 2017 and prices even dropped in 2018 and 2019. However, in 2020 the prices were back on their way up. This was due to the steep rises in the prices of woodwork like the 2 x 4s etc., and other construction materials, thanks to the supply chain disruptions. Hence the prices of houses rose to a record high in 2022. Since then they have dropped, year by year.
But once again why did the Conservatives do absolutely nothing about it? You have not responded to this basic question!!
At least the Liberal Government are taking steps to address it, even with roadblocks from Premiers like Doug Ford!!
the conservatives did not print half a trillion dollars
assets prices increase when the money supply is expanded
the moron Justin rushed money out the door in COVID & he gave the majority to people who did not need it
this would be funny if it were not so sad
this Liberal Governments answer to everything is "spending other peoples money"
so they fueled the housing crisis by "spending other peoples money"
and their response to the housing crisis is "spending more of other peoples money"
6% increase in prices is significant when you also factor in reckless inflationary spending (i.e. printing money) that has more than doubled interest rates since 2015.
That house you buy today that has gone up by 6% will cost you significantly more than it would have cost you at the same price 10 years ago.
The Liberal government is desperate to remain in power. It looks like their futile charade of last ditch efforts to bribe you with your own money and to make up for 10 years of incompetence is working on you. For the rest of Canada, not so much.
I'll wait for you to blame John A. MacDonald next to distract from where you should be placing real blame in the here and now.
ps can we all agree that the budget has not balanced itself?
You're talking about Ontario's budget, aren't you?
And your hero and his successes building housing?
People are looking closer at Thermes.
You must be confused...the province never said the "budget will balance itself".
What's ok is the provincial government actually doing something rather than making idiotic remarks to fool their supporters...
Ontario puts $1.3 billion toward building schools, child-care spaces
https://www.cp24.com/news/ontario-p...ter Stephen Lecce,and 1,759 child-care spaces.
Once again it is not an abnormal increase like you alleged it to be as compared to the price rises in the last eight years of the Harper Govt.
But you are hilarious if you think that "Printing Money" is the root cause of inflation. Maybe you guys think that it should be plucked from the trees......ROTFLMAO!!
Is Canada is shielded from the Global issues that caused the inflation for nearly all the advanced nations?
We once upon a time have had interest rates as high as 22.75%. Did you guys then blame the "Printing of Money" around 1981?
Again take a nation like the UK that is supposed to be "fiscally responsible" with their cuts in spending etc......... yes their inflation and interest rates are higher than that of Canada!!
The Government handled the Covid-19 Pandemic very well indeed, otherwise many Canadians would have been left behind. The only one who wanted to hinder the progress was Pee Pee.
Not long ago you guys were complaining about the Stock Prices as a reflection of the incompetence. Yet they have hit historic heights!!
But yes I agree that, Dougie Boys Budget has not balanced itself and in fact there are much huger deficits and really the debt is much worse that the previous Liberal Govt!!
Wonder who you will blame for the $420+ Net Debt??
I guess you win the prize for being the biggest Trudeau apologist on this board. Congratulations!
Going back to 1981 hahaha OMFG you're hopeless!
More than someone who says "the budget will balance itself" and "the economy is not numbers, it's people", any day of the week.
You believe the brother of the crackhead, the guy who was caught in an $8 billion scandal already?
Right wingers are such easy marks.
Ford’s budget risks cutting 7,000 education workers across Ontario
The aftermath of Premier Doug Ford’s 2023 brutal budget is looking grim for students, their families, and frontline workers across the province.
blaming anyone other than the liberals / NDP (Bob Rea started this debt mess) defies logic and the facts of the matter
premier Ford tried to control the spending by holding public sector raises to 1 % - he got sued for acting responsibly
that's what happens when you inherit a debt bomb from the previous Liberal Govt!! and interest rates are increased
your uninformed biased opinion does not align with reality
Sunshine list: These were the Ontario public sector's highest earners in 2023
Ontario released its annual sunshine list Thursday afternoon, noting that the largest year-over-year increases were in hospitals, municipalities, and post-secondary sectors.
www.cp24.com
This year a total of 300,570 employees made the list, up from 266,948 in 2022.
for some perspective
As of Mar 24, the average annual salary in Ontario is $54,834.
a little more than half of what is required to make it onto the sunshine list
here is some sunshine list data
this does not include public sector employees making less than 100, 000
the public sector is driving the province into bankruptcy
| Row Labels | Count of Salary | Row Labels | Sum of Salary | |
| School Boards | 80,281 | School Boards | 8,598,290,875 | |
| Municipalities & Services | 65,787 | Municipalities & Services | 8,405,643,868 | |
| Hospitals & Boards of Public Health | 58,698 | Hospitals & Boards of Public Health | 7,389,264,157 | |
| Universities | 26,232 | Universities | 4,220,884,887 | |
| Government of Ontario - Ministries | 23,113 | Government of Ontario - Ministries | 3,007,850,169 | |
| Crown Agencies | 13,563 | Crown Agencies | 1,820,307,100 | |
| Other Public Sector Employers | 11,788 | Other Public Sector Employers | 1,572,978,829 | |
| Colleges | 10,332 | Ontario Power Generation | 1,570,548,024 | |
| Ontario Power Generation | 9,489 | Colleges | 1,315,783,828 | |
| Government of Ontario - Judiciary | 645 | Government of Ontario - Judiciary | 164,958,875 | |
| Government of Ontario - Legislative Assembly and Offices | 508 | Government of Ontario - Legislative Assembly and Offices | 70,929,960 | |
| Seconded (Education)* | 90 | Seconded (Education)* | 10,515,519 | |
| Seconded (Solicitor General)* | 31 | Seconded (Solicitor General)* | 4,113,831 | |
| Seconded (Health)* | 5 | Seconded (Health)* | 769,774 | |
| Seconded (Attorney General)* | 2 | Seconded (Cabinet Office)* | 663,841 | |
| Seconded (Children, Community and Social Services)* | 2 | Seconded (Attorney General)* | 312,053 | |
| Seconded (Citizenship and Multiculturalism)* | 2 | Seconded (Children, Community and Social Services)* | 231,460 | |
| Seconded (Cabinet Office)* | 1 | Seconded (Citizenship and Multiculturalism)* | 230,128 | |
| Seconded (Energy)* | 1 | Seconded (Energy)* | 153,877 | |
| Grand Total | 300,570 | Grand Total | 38,154,431,053 |
