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Skoob

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Sure, socialism is the reason salaries for the middle class has fallen relative to everything else, so your dream of a one salary family with a women staying home to look after children
Is no longer feasible.

Give me a break.
Add up all the taxes you pay, all levels of government, everything you buy, the impact on costs of goods, etc, etc...and then tell me how much money you have left over.
Compare that to 40-50 years ago relatively.
 

Skoob

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So how do you do that?
How do you make it so that only one person in a relationship needs to work to support a family?
You make people's money go further by not fleecing them with outrageous taxes to pay for other people's lifestyles.
 

danmand

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You make people's money go further by not fleecing them with outrageous taxes to pay for other people's lifestyles.
Oh Christ. You do not want to pay taxes. There is an obvious solution to that.

There are many 3rd world countries where you do not have to pay taxes.
 
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toguy5252

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Best household was when one parent stays home to look after the kids
...daycare are not substitute to parenting, they're an alternative...
That may be your ideal but not everyone's. In order foe their to be greater participation on the workforce which Canada needs there must be access to affordable daycare.
 
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DesRicardo

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That may be your ideal but not everyone's. In order foe their to be greater participation on the workforce which Canada needs there must be access to affordable daycare.
That's right. Who needs to raise their children?

Your true purpose on earth is to slave your life away to maximize shareholder value, while they inadequately grow and indoctrinate your child.
 

danmand

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That's right. Who needs to raise their children?

Your true purpose on earth is to slave your life away to maximize shareholder value, while they inadequately grow and indoctrinate your child.
There is no compulsion for both parents to work.

However, I would like to point out to you that your quaint picture of a single family home and a home going mother is not the reality in Canada. As a start, take a look at the statistics for single parents
 

Frankfooter

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You make people's money go further by not fleecing them with outrageous taxes to pay for other people's lifestyles.
So you want to cut services and taxes.
Which services do you cut to pay for those tax cuts?
 

DesRicardo

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There is no compulsion for both parents to work.

However, I would like to point out to you that your quaint picture of a single family home and a home going mother is not the reality in Canada. As a start, take a look at the statistics for single parents
What are you even saying?

You disagree with me and then tell me to go look up why you disagree with me.
 

Darts

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In my line of work I meet a lot of immigrants and 1st generation Canadians. Many/most/all work hard and study hard. No "woe is me" from them --- too busy working and/or studying.

At my local Wal-Mart, all the staff look E.I. At my local credit union all the staff look E.I., the only white guy is the branch manager.
 

toguy5252

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That's right. Who needs to raise their children?

Your true purpose on earth is to slave your life away to maximize shareholder value, while they inadequately grow and indoctrinate your child.
you may not believe this but many families need the second income and as well many women need or want the stimulation etc of work outside of the home. The situation would be totally different if men had to stay home with children.
 

Skoob

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So you want to cut services and taxes.
Which services do you cut to pay for those tax cuts?
How about we start with getting rid of the carbon tax?
How about reducing the size of government?
How about we stop renaming streets?
How about we open up government construction projects to non-union companies?
How about we stop sending money we don't have to Ukraine?
How about we stop spending money and reduce inflation so less of our taxes are needed to pay off government debt?

Somehow, 50 years ago the roads were maintained, hospitals provided good service, and people could afford homes even while paying taxes...today taxes are significantly higher...the system is broken and continually increasing taxes and creating new ones isn't fixing anything except enabling lazy governments.
 

DesRicardo

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you may not believe this but many families need the second income and as well many women need or want the stimulation etc of work outside of the home. The situation would be totally different if men had to stay home with children.
It's a shame isn't it? It's almost like we need real change.
 
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toguy5252

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It's a shame isn't it? It's almost like we need real change.
I agree. At least in Canada I do not like either leader or party. I was a long time Lib until Cretien and then i voted for Harper. Now I think both leader are idiots, particularly JT and i say that as someone who would otherwise vote Lib.
 

danmand

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How about we start with getting rid of the carbon tax?
How about reducing the size of government?
How about we stop renaming streets?
How about we open up government construction projects to non-union companies?
How about we stop sending money we don't have to Ukraine?
How about we stop spending money and reduce inflation so less of our taxes are needed to pay off government debt?

Somehow, 50 years ago the roads were maintained, hospitals provided good service, and people could afford homes even while paying taxes...today taxes are significantly higher...the system is broken and continually increasing taxes and creating new ones isn't fixing anything except enabling lazy governments.
You do realize that one item on your list would pay for most of what is needed:

How about we stop sending money we don't have to Ukraine?
 
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Darts

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Her mother came over from Romania to look after her young son while she worked a regular job. Her son now speaks fluent Romanian and a passable English.
 

Frankfooter

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How about we start with getting rid of the carbon tax?
How about reducing the size of government?
How about we stop renaming streets?
How about we open up government construction projects to non-union companies?
How about we stop sending money we don't have to Ukraine?
How about we stop spending money and reduce inflation so less of our taxes are needed to pay off government debt?

Somehow, 50 years ago the roads were maintained, hospitals provided good service, and people could afford homes even while paying taxes...today taxes are significantly higher...the system is broken and continually increasing taxes and creating new ones isn't fixing anything except enabling lazy governments.
So you want fewer services, shoddier building construction, to pay workers less and make everyone poorer as a road to economic success?
 

danmand

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because if Russia win this we will have even less money.
No, of we did not send $B10 to Ukraine we would have had $B10 more money to spend on investments in the future.
 

jalimon

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No, of we did not send $B10 to Ukraine we would have had $B10 more money to spend on investments in the future.
be careful how Russia will impact our life if they get a hold of Ukraine. Our leaders are not as dumb as you think.
 
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