Dangerous Delta COVID-19 Variant Infecting Vaccinated Adults In Israel

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Total junk article with a sensational headline. Some gems:

“ half were children younger than 16., The Wall Street Journal reported Friday. Most of them hadn’t yet been vaccinated, according to Dr. Ran Balicer, head of of a COVID-19 advisory advisor panel on COVID-19 for the Israeli government.”

Obvious push to jab kids. Disgusting.

“ But half of the adults infected had been fully vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine, Balicer said.”

So half had not been. Therefore the vaccination status has zero measurable effect on who catches the coof and who doesn’t.

“ About 90% of the new infections in Israel were likely caused by the delta variant, the Journal reported.”

Oh…it’s LIKELY? So they don’t even fucking know 😂

Journalism is dead.
 

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We know they’ve dropped the cycle threshold for vaccinated people, and other fuckery to manipulate the numbers the way they want to.

Great news if your vaxxed I guess. You’re safe therefore my status is not your concern, right?
 

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We know they’ve dropped the cycle threshold for vaccinated people, and other fuckery to manipulate the numbers the way they want to.

Great news if your vaxxed I guess. You’re safe therefore my status is not your concern, right?
When you are an incubator for new strains yes. And coukd be a strain on the healthcare system yes. And could add to numbers prolonging it yes.

Just get a shot. Don't be a scaredy cat.
 

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We know they’ve dropped the cycle threshold for vaccinated people, and other fuckery to manipulate the numbers the way they want to.

Great news if your vaxxed I guess. You’re safe therefore my status is not your concern, right?
Your status is not important to me but to my girlfriend who is auto-immune compromised.

She can’t get vaccinated and she can’t get COVID or she will die.
 
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They have to maintain fear to maintain grip. Simple as that. If it was not one thing, it was another. Then there was variants, british one, indian one, now they call them with fancy military name to make them more scary because lets be honest, India is nothing like here, both in population and situation, so always saying "the indian variant blablabla" wasn't as scary as giving it a fancy name.

Next its gonna be something else til fall comes back and natural rise in flu...i mean...covid (wink wink) cases rise again because its just the season and there you go, another winter of control and fear.
 

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They have to maintain fear to maintain grip. Simple as that. If it was not one thing, it was another. Then there was variants, british one, indian one, now they call them with fancy military name to make them more scary because lets be honest, India is nothing like here, both in population and situation, so always saying "the indian variant blablabla" wasn't as scary as giving it a fancy name.

Next its gonna be something else til fall comes back and natural rise in flu...i mean...covid (wink wink) cases rise again because its just the season and there you go, another winter of control and fear.
I thought they changed the location based names to be less racist.
 

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Your status is not important to me but to my girlfriend who is auto-immune compromised.

She can’t get vaccinated and she can’t get COVID or she will die.
Its a sad situation for your friend, but sadly the world can't revolve around a few peoples who pulled the wrong number in life. I mean i know i will not get vaccinated personally because i am young, healthy and i don't need it. I don't want to gamble on it either. Maybe in 5-10 years when i get older and the vaccine proved itself, but in the meantime considering what the governement did, i have 0 TRUST in them. They injected that crap Astrazeneca despite knowing the risks, knowing more Pfizer (wich proved to be more effective, safer) was coming, all of this to meet quotas and keep their promises that everyone could be vaccinated before June 24 (in Quebec). Now some peoples who got AZ have to mix different vaccines and its just a cluster f***.

So nah. Me, someone who does not go out often, do not travel anyway, is in my 30s, is healthy, and that never got Covid since the beginning while not being overly "cautious", i am taking my chances with life, natural immunity etc.
 
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Its a sad situation for your friend, but sadly the world can't revolve around a few peoples who pulled the wrong number in life. I mean i know i will not get vaccinated personally because i am young, healthy and i don't need it. I don't want to gamble on it either. Maybe in 5-10 years when i get older and the vaccine proved itself, but in the meantime considering what the governement did, i have 0 TRUST in them. They injected that crap Astrazena despite knowing the risks, knowing more Pfizer (wich proved to be more effective, safer) was coming, all of this to meet quotas and keep their promises that everyone could be vaccinated before June 24 (in Quebec). Now some peoples who got AZ have to mix different vaccines and its just a cluster f***.

So nah. Me, someone who does not go out often, do not travel anyway, is in my 30s, is healthy, and that never got Covid since the beginning while not being overly "cautious", i am taking my chances with life, natural immunity etc.
I never said to get the vaccine. I have never told a single person to get it.

I have simply stated how that choice can possibly effect others because some simply think of themselves.

The question was asked, so I answered.

Thankfully there are enough getting it that my friend should be ok regardless of your personal choice.

PS - I have already stated, I got the AZ and will mix and match. I don’t feel dubbed at all. I prefer this outcome. Doesn’t scare me in the least.
 

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PS - I have already stated, I got the AZ and will mix and match. I don’t feel dubbed at all. I prefer this outcome. Doesn’t scare me in the least.
John Tory joined us mix and mashers yesterday with his Astraderna cocktail.
 
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Thankfully there are enough getting it that my friend should be ok regardless of your personal choice.

PS - I have already stated, I got the AZ and will mix and match. I don’t feel dubbed at all. I prefer this outcome. Doesn’t scare me in the least.
I am quite surprised so many peoples decided to go for it. Actually ever since the start of this thing i been surprise at the population of Canada and especially Quebec. I never taught liberty infringements measures would pass like a knife in butter here. I mean not the initial shutdown in March 2020, that was fine, but once we knew Covid was not the Black Plague 2.0 and so few peoples would actually be hurt by it, i was shocked to see peoples accepting mandate masking and especially curfews for that long. I always saw the Quebec peoples as proud and resisting, not docile and submissive. But i guess the governement did a great propaganda job...

I agree with Duhaime that we should have got the elders and at risk peoples fully vaccinated first. Actually if someone is 55-60 and want to take the vaccine i would say go for it, you should, cause at that age there is more risk. But they want to vaccinate KIDS, freaking kids !! and peoples 18-30. They call the ones deciding to not take it "recalcitrant" in french, holy hell they are in their 20s !! Its not being recalcitrant, its knowing the risk of having life threatening issues from that disease is like 0.002% when you are 18-30. I never took a flu shot in my life, and yet flu CAN KILL too, actually i had a very bad one once when i was younger and its not fun... But its part of life, thats 2 crappy weeks and then you move on.

Now we are at a point in full summer heat time where they still want peoples to mask, still have big restrictions, while there is less than 100 new cases per day in Quebec and barely anyone in hospitals. When will it end?

I am sure cases will rise in fall, because thats how it goes with seasonal viruses. Having peoples vaccinated will mean way less hospitalizations and maybe less cases than fall 2020 but there will be a surge. Will they use it to put/keep crazy restrictions? Thats my fear. Right now its less than 100 per day. So if we get to lets say 300 per day in fall, they will "justify" their restrictions by saying "thats an augmentation of 300%"

Honestly i feel Governement taste power without any opposition and they loved it... they won't let it go that easy.
 

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I am not surprised at all. Canadians come together when needed. All the time. This is no different.

Sucks that you hate our government so much. That is a crappy way to live. I don’t trust everything and they are people so they make mistakes, but for the most part Canada is fucking awesome. I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else. I feel we were taken care of and much better then many countries in the world.

I am a proud Canadian
 

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I am quite surprised so many peoples decided to go for it. Actually ever since the start of this thing i been surprise at the population of Canada and especially Quebec. I never taught liberty infringements measures would pass like a knife in butter here. I mean not the initial shutdown in March 2020, that was fine, but once we knew Covid was not the Black Plague 2.0 and so few peoples would actually be hurt by it, i was shocked to see peoples accepting mandate masking and especially curfews for that long. I always saw the Quebec peoples as proud and resisting, not docile and submissive. But i guess the governement did a great propaganda job...

I agree with Duhaime that we should have got the elders and at risk peoples fully vaccinated first. Actually if someone is 55-60 and want to take the vaccine i would say go for it, you should, cause at that age there is more risk. But they want to vaccinate KIDS, freaking kids !! and peoples 18-30. They call the ones deciding to not take it "recalcitrant" in french, holy hell they are in their 20s !! Its not being recalcitrant, its knowing the risk of having life threatening issues from that disease is like 0.002% when you are 18-30. I never took a flu shot in my life, and yet flu CAN KILL too, actually i had a very bad one once when i was younger and its not fun... But its part of life, thats 2 crappy weeks and then you move on.

Now we are at a point in full summer heat time where they still want peoples to mask, still have big restrictions, while there is less than 100 new cases per day in Quebec and barely anyone in hospitals. When will it end?

I am sure cases will rise in fall, because thats how it goes with seasonal viruses. Having peoples vaccinated will mean way less hospitalizations and maybe less cases than fall 2020 but there will be a surge. Will they use it to put/keep crazy restrictions? Thats my fear. Right now its less than 100 per day. So if we get to lets say 300 per day in fall, they will "justify" their restrictions by saying "thats an augmentation of 300%"

Honestly i feel Governement taste power without any opposition and they loved it... they won't let it go that easy.
Wow, we have another one! LMFAO
 
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but once we knew Covid was not the Black Plague 2.0 and so few peoples would actually be hurt by it, i was shocked to see peoples accepting mandate masking and especially curfews for that long. I always saw the Quebec peoples as proud and resisting, not docile and submissive.
Not another one minimizing the effect of Covid? Another one saying Covid is just a "flu"?
It is not Black Plague but it's by far THE WORST PANDEMIC in our generation.
Even though the death toll is no where near those in the past - but remember that now we have all the modern medicine that has kept many alive this time round.

This is not called "docile and submissive", it's called responsible and not being selfish.
Covid IS NOT FLU. Flu never overwhelmed our hospitals and ICUs. Flu never caused Manitoba to send ICU patients to Ontario. Flu never caused us to be a few patients away from enacting the ICU triage protocol. And Flu did not cause 620,000 deaths in US in 1 year.
I wish you would be allowed to take a tour of our hospitals at the peak of third wave, and talk to doctors and nurses working at ICU and listen to them first hand that COVID IS NOT FLU.

Its not being recalcitrant, its knowing the risk of having life threatening issues from that disease is like 0.002% when you are 18-30. I never took a flu shot in my life, and yet flu CAN KILL too,
Flushot has always been optional for 18-30.
The Delta variants affected young patients who get sicker. They may not die, but hospitalizations and ICU admissions are very traumatic, and some would have effects from Covid for the rest of their lives.
And you may be lucky and have mild symptoms, but you may pass on the virus to your family and friends and your loved ones who may not be so lucky.

Vaccination is not about yourself, it's also about protecting family and friends.
As long as there is a large group of unvaccinated people, the outbreaks would happen from time to time.
 
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When you are an incubator for new strains yes. And coukd be a strain on the healthcare system yes. And could add to numbers prolonging it yes.

Just get a shot. Don't be a scaredy cat.
The vaccines are what’s creating escape variants.

Does anybody on this board read? 😂

Put your crayons down and pick up a real book.
 

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The vaccines are what’s creating escape variants.

Does anybody on this board read? 😂

Put your crayons down and pick up a real book.
The South African variant happened last summer, the Uk variant happened last September, both before vaccines were ready. Go eat your crayons and shove that Dr. Seuss book you are currently reading up your arse.
 
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