Dancer in the family? HELP ME?

[ALIMEISTER]

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Don't let her do it. How can you stand some guy staring at your little sisters naked body and later groping on her boobs in the vip room?

I agree it may be hypocritical, but it would have been different if you had not known that she had plans to become a stripper. I'm pretty sure most family members of strippers do not know that they strip. I personally would do everything in my power to never let it happen.

I don't know, maybe i'm being close minded probably because of my very cultural / traditional upbringing.
 

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What Kat said is true, there's a lot of alcohol/coke probs with lawyers and yuppies alike but strip joints are basically 7 day a week party places where everyone wants to buy the girl a drink, so it makes it that much harder to resist all the narcotics
 

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I agree with kat19.
It's more about how strong you are mentally than what line of work you are in.
Granted, yes, there is alot of drugs in strip clubs, but I think that's simply due to the type of girls that get attracted to the easy money...not ALL the girls. Yes, the minority never touch drugs, but have you been to high school lately,,,I am sure she's seen it all already, and if she's strong enough to stick to her guns, then she'll be fine.
If anything, seeing the girls in a club who ARE all messed up on somehting tends to reinforce my no drug policy! It goes both ways depending on your values. If she's into drugs already, I wouldn't suggest going into a strip club at all.

And to the guys who seem to think we all end up cocked out and living some pitiful existence...what type of strippers have you been dating?! It is not unrealistic for a dancer (or any other sex worker) to be level headed, educated and and a overall nice person. Not all of them get "ruined" by the business, and if they do, I think it has more to do with their personality than the business. I
f you can't stick to your guns you can't stick to your guns,,,in ANY circumstances. If you are weak enough to bend and let it tkae over your life,,,well, it would have been something else if you weren't a dancer.

Back to the original question, if your little sister has a good sense of self, and enough confidence to tell people who will try to push her limits to back off, it can be a great way to get through school without a huge debt afterwards. It really boils down to her personality.
I would also suggest she starts off in the more "airdance" type of bars, as she won't want to do anything more than that probrably in the beggining, and you want her to make good enough money so she can only work a couple days a week. If it goes to more than that, her sleeping patterns will get all screwed up, and she will start missing school.

Just tell her to watch out for guys who think she's a coked out low life...lol ;)
 

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Be her brother...

As a former driver and dance agency manager who has also worked in the adult biz in other aspects as well for a number of years please let me suggest the following.

First… As already mentioned it is a very real possibility that she will become addicted to the money and not want to return to the real world once she gets a taste of how much she can make dancing. However it’s true also that there have been many nice success stories as well where girls went into dancing just to reach a goal (finish school) and then get out.

A cokehead? Another possibility. If your sister does coke at all right now I suggest that you talk her out of becoming a dancer somehow. If not I suggest that she stay away from the party girls and she will most likely be OK.

Has she ever been in a SC? Does she know any dancers? Why or how did she become interested in dancing? You may want to take her out to a SC. I know that sounds bizarre maybe but that is exactly what I use to do with newbies. When I was a dancer agent any new girls who came in I would insist that they come out with me to a couple of SCs to let them see first hand what exactly they are getting into. I would bring them to a more upscale low mileage club and also to a pit hole high mileage place. Also maybe tell her about TERB and some other review sites so she can get more info and make a more informed decision.

Last but not least support her whatever her decision is. She may be about to suffer some prejudices from people who are down on sex industry workers, maybe even be losing some friends if they find out. Her resources for loving support may be limited. Let her know that you are there for her if she needs to talk. Or maybe sometimes she has a bad day and just needs to vent. I.E. Be her brother.

Oh… and maybe you want to consider not going to the SC where she is working when she is on shift.


Hope this helps.
 

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They should legalize ALL drugs .

Have users registered as addicts and give them a prescription that they can get filled. Narcotics should be sold at minimal prices.

Hey, it works in some countries so why not here??
 

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not to sound like a hypocrite, but the more i think about it, my youngest sister is 20 and i would do what i could to keep her out of the business. there are pros and cons to the biz, and even if you are really careful, with your head on straight, it could still mess you up a bit. i know my opinion of men has drastically changed, and it is hard for me to trust guys now.

i don't have kids yet, but i already know as soon as i do, i will put $ away for their education, so they will not have to worry about it like i did.

i know i sound undecided on the subject. for me the money has definately helped alot, but if i work alot, i start to feel like i'm getting "jaded".
 

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Theres other ways for a student to make money to pay the bills. Most students dont strip or hook and dont have to rack up student loans.

Tell her to get a job - parttime during the school year and a summer job. Not only with this bring in cash but hopefully she can get something in her field of study and it will help her make contacts and get good experience.

Tuition in Canada isnt so outrageous that its impossile to pay for as a student. If possible she should live at home, if thats not possible then theres a lot of cheap student housing out there. Then between parttime and summer jobs, scholarships, bursaries and student loans to make up the difference she should be in ok shape when she comes out.

As for the coke and fuckedup lifestyle. Sure theres cokeheads in every profession but definitely more in stripping and hooking. Havent you been into a strip club and seen strungout or high as a kite rippers? The drugs are easily available as OC runs a lot of the strip clubs and also runs the drug trade.
If she could get a job in a cleaner club and stay out of the lifestyle and not get a scumbag boyfriend and stay focused on school then she would be fine. But thats a big if.

Look at it this way...
Would she have a regret that she didnt strip?
 

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when she becomes 18 she can and will make her own decisions and it will be difficult to stop her. You say she's doing this to make money for school, maybe you should offer to help pay for her education it might help.
 

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STD's? Not if she's working in a cleaner club.

But, you know, I guess you guys are right. WHat on Earth would a couple of sex trade workers know...especially about the sex trade.
Damn, must be all the coke I just snorted, or the cock up my ass right now that's making me type funny.,,

S'cuse me, my dealer just showed up, I have to go blow him so I can get my fix.
 

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Kennedy said:
STD's? Not if she's working in a cleaner club.

But, you know, I guess you guys are right. WHat on Earth would a couple of sex trade workers know...especially about the sex trade.
Damn, must be all the coke I just snorted, or the cock up my ass right now that's making me type funny.,,

S'cuse me, my dealer just showed up, I have to go blow him so I can get my fix.


LOL...too funny Kennedy!
 

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Kennedy said:
STD's? Not if she's working in a cleaner club.

But, you know, I guess you guys are right. WHat on Earth would a couple of sex trade workers know...especially about the sex trade.
Damn, must be all the coke I just snorted, or the cock up my ass right now that's making me type funny.,,

S'cuse me, my dealer just showed up, I have to go blow him so I can get my fix.
Save me a line please. It's not for me though, it's for my friend
 

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ScottyJop said:
My little sister is 17 years old, and is talking about stripping once she becomes 18, to help pay for school.

I'm wondering what you guys would say to her if she was your sister, daughter, grand daughter.

I know i'm hypocritical here, and I can see the irony, but I just don't want her to get into that lifestyle.

She's got a calm head on her shoulders, and she's very intelligent, but I really don't think she understands exactly what the job entails, and how dirty it can actually be.

Any suggestions?
If I were you....I do anything to keep my sister out of the adult industry....no matter how smart and sensible she is....I'm sure there will be emotional and psychological scarring....seeing the most base and vile part of the human spirit night after night just for a few $$$....hell I would coke myself up every night just to numb my senses and warp my mind if I had to deal with dirty(literally and figuratively), smelly old man pawing at me everynight. I would pay for her education if I had to with my own money.....even get a second job if I had to

.....now having said that....since your sister is hot....do you think she will do 'take-out' once she starts dancing.....and can you tell me where she will be dancing once she becomes of age
 

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I agree with mtl_guy. Tell her to find a part time job or a summer job related to her field of study. She can apply for scholarships and many many bursaries as well. Last year I applied for a $1000 bursary and I got it. My grades were average and I just had to convince financial aid that I needed the money, and that wasn't too hard at all. Obviously she won't make as much money as she would stripping, but she'll make enough to pay for tuition.

If she rejects the idea of getting a part time / summer job, then she wants to strip for the dough and she's using school as an excuse.
 

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Its just entertainment...Right??

I listened to The head of the Canadian Adult Entertainment Association on CFRB this morning.
He claims that Strip clubs are only about entertainment & there is more sex happening in airplanes thans SCs.
So what's the problem with your sister being an entertainer??
 

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Re: Re: Dancer in the family? HELP ME?

OrientalJennifer said:
If she chooses to do this, I would suggest that you encourage her to also work at another non-sex related job during the summer. It would help keep her grounded. When I worked as an SP and PSO this past summer I also found myself working at job that related to my studies from time to time when they needed me. It helped keep me grounded.

yes, i couldn't agree more. i have a second job as well on top of school that relates to my studies. i felt i needed it to get some satisfaction from work.
 

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Re: Its just entertainment...Right??

HafDun said:
I listened to The head of the Canadian Adult Entertainment Association on CFRB this morning.
He claims that Strip clubs are only about entertainment & there is more sex happening in airplanes thans SCs.
So what's the problem with your sister being an entertainer??
I think this guy has his head in the clouds. :)
 

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kat19 said:
bit. i know my opinion of men has drastically changed, and it is hard for me to trust guys now.

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I agree with you that it's not the best business but it's not the worst.

I don't understand why you would say your opinion of men hs changed and you find it hard to trust men because of it.
Isn't this like biting the hand that feeds you.
I mean not all men are decent nor are all women but don't castigate men for using a service you provided.
 
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