CupidsEscorts Tweets a Client's Information

[doggystyle99]

I look at it this way.... it means that at least one SP at cupids has limits on what she will do to avoid disease..... AND it means that the management stands behind their girls.

I completely appreciate both of those types of attitudes in a company that I would support. Yes I have used them in the past but that was a long time ago as I am 90% MP these days.

Honestly, if you conduct yourself properly you have nothing to worry about.

Boycotting the agency just means you are supporting a guy who likes stealthing.

I find it hilarious that these types of events brings out the haters.

I do not support stealthing and I do not support outing someone on social media. Again the right course of action would have been to call the police and report this specially as some of the previous comments that he could have done this in the past but they didn't and this guy could possibly harm other SP's.
This is not the first time that Cupids has outed someone they have outed another client previously and one of their own SP's to her SO. So it's not the first time she has done this. That behaviour of the agency owner is unacceptable. She has gotten away with it in the past and thinks she can continue doing it without any issues. Supporting and excusing her actions gives her more reason to do it again in the future and be justified to do so with comments like yours. As a customer I would rather spend my money at an agency that they think before acting from the tweet and the previous tweets of outing that I have been shown she sound like a vindictive loose cannon and I would not trust her with my information and the most important rule in this industry for clients, SP's and agencies should be privacy.
Again this in no way is to excuse the asshole who allegedly has stealthed this SP but going the social media route and exposing his identity without pursuing it legally does nothing to resolve the issue.

 

[james t kirk]

And those reasons are..... ? I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that the owner did the calculation and concluded that the risks to HER and her business were too great to go to the police. Otherwise, why not try? Sure, the police might have been assholes and brushed this off, but that’s on them. There is a possibility that they’d take this seriously and at least give this a-hole a visit (to his home, in front of his neighbours). So why not try?

Bingo.

The owner of Cupids and the young woman in question should have gone to the police. End of story. The reality is, however, that neither want to do that because they make their living flying under the radar, off grid if you like. It's easier that way isn't it?

Some will argue that guys who don't stealth (new term for me by the way) don't have to worry. The reality is that a huge number of johns, if not the entirety of the group rely on the heavily on the concept of discretion if not anonymity with respect to this hobby. We very much like to keep this in a mutually exclusive compartment. Too much to lose as they say. (Much like the owner of Cupids and the women who work for her prefer to fly under the radar). This incident has demonstrated quite clearly to those men out there who fear the impacts of being exposed as mongers that:

1. This escort agency keeps records.
2. This escort agency in fact keeps very detailed records.
3. The owner of this escort agency will out those she feels deserve it on various forms of social media based solely on her take on the situation. (The owner of this escort agency has publicly outed people several times in the past when she herself feels it right. Even those who work for her. So clearly, there is a pattern here.)


You don't have to be a rapist to fear the lack of confidentiality frankly. The owner of cupids has outed several people for various reasons in the past.

But here's the thing, what if these detailed records fall into the wrong hands? I severely doubt the detailed records that Cupids keeps are encrypted and password protected. (I'm picturing an excel spreadsheet.)

So as a John, you have to ask yourself, "do I feel secure in this sort of situation?"

It has nothing to do with rape, or stealthing, or rape culture, or any shit like that. It has everything to do with discretion, privacy, and security.

The issue should have been given over to law enforcement and the legal system. That's how the Rule of Law is supposed to work.

 

[mandrill]

Just out of curiosity, are either of the 2 principles going to come forward and post their version of what actually happened?

Or perhaps Cupids give the girl's detailed version?

Essguy and some others are raising the possibility that the condom came off by accident. The girl's account - either directly from her or via Cupids - could put that theory to bed once and for all.

Conversely, the guy could give his account of what happened.

 

[essguy_]

Just out of curiosity, are either of the 2 principles going to come forward and post their version of what actually happened?

Or perhaps Cupids give the girl's detailed version?

Essguy and some others are raising the possibility that the condom came off by accident. The girl's account - either directly from her or via Cupids - could put that theory to bed once and for all.

Conversely, the guy could give his account of what happened.

No, that's not what I'm implying. I'm good with calling this guy a creep and a predator. But what if, with another good client it did happen by accident? (which again - has happened to me in real life). So I wonder what would have happened if this was with a provider on a first visit? What if she freaked out and accused the client of stealthing when it WAS an accident. How would Jillian react? You and others have mentioned that this guy had a reputation. So if you knew and others knew, why the hell didn't Jillian know? Or if she DID know, then why act all vigilante when the inevitable happened? Why not call LE and get this guy arrested? Again, if they DON'T want to involve police for some reason, then simply accept it as a cost and risk of this business and live with the knowledge that this creep is free to prey on others.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Just out of curiosity, are either of the 2 principles going to come forward and post their version of what actually happened?

Or perhaps Cupids give the girl's detailed version?

Essguy and some others are raising the possibility that the condom came off by accident. The girl's account - either directly from her or via Cupids - could put that theory to bed once and for all

And thats the problem. Who knows whats true??
If there were tons of other SP's coming forward with the same accusations, Cupids would have a point.
But we dont, and its his words vs. theirs, and to then put someone's personal info on twitter is so wrong on so many levels.

Hey oagre, you had a problem with an MPA a few years ago.
The situation was (allegedly) resolved through these boards.

Would you have been OK if the parlor had tweeted out your personal info, and if trolls would have then contacted you and your family??
Yes or no??

 

[LT56]

Just out of curiosity, are either of the 2 principles going to come forward and post their version of what actually happened?

Or perhaps Cupids give the girl's detailed version?

Essguy and some others are raising the possibility that the condom came off by accident. The girl's account - either directly from her or via Cupids - could put that theory to bed once and for all.

Conversely, the guy could give his account of what happened.

I don’t think it matters. I’m assuming the girl’s account of things is accurate; Jillian claims the guy even admitted to it in an e-mail follow up.

I don’t care what the guy did; taking to social media to implement her vigilante justice is way off side. Calling the police and/or Blacklisting the guy is what should have happened but didn’t.

 

[mandrill]

And thats the problem. Who knows whats true??
If there were tons of other SP's coming forward with the same accusations, Cupids would have a point.
But we dont, and its his words vs. theirs, and to then put someone's personal info on twitter is so wrong on so many levels.

Hey oagre, you had a problem with an MPA a few years ago.
The situation was (allegedly) resolved through these boards.

Would you have been OK if the parlor had tweeted out your personal info, and if trolls would have then contacted you and your family??
Yes or no??

Since I didn't actually do anything to the girl in question and she mistook me for another guy (somehow), it would have been pretty egregious.

Thankfully, the outfit (Premier Spas) was all class about the incident and pleasant to deal with.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Bingo.

The owner of Cupids and the young woman in question should have gone to the police. End of story. The reality is, however, that neither want to do that because they make their living flying under the radar, off grid if you like. It's easier that way isn't it?

Some will argue that guys who don't stealth (new term for me by the way) don't have to worry. The reality is that a huge number of johns, if not the entirety of the group rely on the heavily on the concept of discretion if not anonymity with respect to this hobby. We very much like to keep this in a mutually exclusive compartment. Too much to lose as they say. (Much like the owner of Cupids and the women who work for her prefer to fly under the radar). This incident has demonstrated quite clearly to those men out there who fear the impacts of being exposed as mongers that:

1. This escort agency keeps records.
2. This escort agency in fact keeps very detailed records.
3. The owner of this escort agency will out those she feels deserve it on various forms of social media based solely on her take on the situation. (The owner of this escort agency has publicly outed people several times in the past when she herself feels it right. Even those who work for her. So clearly, there is a pattern here.)


You don't have to be a rapist to fear the lack of confidentiality frankly. The owner of cupids has outed several people for various reasons in the past.

But here's the thing, what if these detailed records fall into the wrong hands? I severely doubt the detailed records that Cupids keeps are encrypted and password protected. (I'm picturing an excel spreadsheet.)

So as a John, you have to ask yourself, "do I feel secure in this sort of situation?"

It has nothing to do with rape, or stealthing, or rape culture, or any shit like that. It has everything to do with discretion, privacy, and security.

The issue should have been given over to law enforcement and the legal system. That's how the Rule of Law is supposed to work

Well said Cpt. Kirk

 

[doggystyle99]

No, that's not what I'm implying. I'm good with calling this guy a creep and a predator. But what if, with another good client it did happen by accident? (which again - has happened to me in real life). So I wonder what would have happened if this was with a provider on a first visit? What if she freaked out and accused the client of stealthing when it WAS an accident. How would Jillian react? You and others have mentioned that this guy had a reputation. So if you knew and others knew, why the hell didn't Jillian know? Or if she DID know, then why act all vigilante when the inevitable happened? Why not call LE and get this guy arrested? Again, if they DON'T want to involve police for some reason, then simply accept it as a cost and risk of this business and live with the knowledge that this creep is free to prey on others.

Agree with you on all points.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Since I didn't actually do anything to the girl in question and she mistook me for another guy (somehow), it would have been pretty egregious.

Thankfully, the outfit (Premier Spas) was all class about the incident and pleasant to deal with

Right, but what if they HADN'T though???!!

 

[mandrill]

Right, but what if they HADN'T though???!!

Point taken. There is always the chance of weird taking place.

And some of the girls are not that stable or that together.

 

[LT56]

...

But here's the thing, what if these detailed records fall into the wrong hands? I severely doubt the detailed records that Cupids keeps are encrypted and password protected. (I'm picturing an excel spreadsheet.)

I’m picturing something more along the lines of scraps of paper, the backs of envelopes, and napkins from take out food...but your point is well taken.

 

[ELEMENTUM]

Essguy and some others are raising the possibility that the condom came off by accident. The girl's account - either directly from her or via Cupids - could put that theory to bed once and for all.

To set the record straight; He did this on purpose.

One reply from Cupid stated, “He thought this was consensual”

 

[mandrill]

To set the record straight; He did this on purpose.

One reply from Cupid stated, “He thought this was consensual”

In which case, some idea of the conversation and why the guy thought this was agreed upon would be interesting.

 

[essguy_]

Essguy and some others are raising the possibility that the condom came off by accident. The girl's account - either directly from her or via Cupids - could put that theory to bed once and for all.

Conversely, the guy could give his account of what happened.

To set the record straight; He did this on purpose.

One reply from Cupid stated, “He thought this was consensual”

Not sure why oagre thinks I thought it was an accident. I am completely comfortable with calling the guy a creep and a predator. That makes how this was handled even worse, IMO. This guy should be off the street or at the very least, the police should have him on their radar. The way Cupids handled this was probably the worst way they could have. He had a bad reputation, yet they called him a regular client. What broke down here? Were they happy to ignore his reputation until "surprise" he acted according to form? I don't buy the excuses not to get LE involved. OR - if their excuses are valid, then they should just accept the fact that this business has risks and if the consequences of these risks are not bad enough to call the police then simply accept them and move on or quit. Tweeting a name should never happen.

 

[LT56]

Not sure why oagre thinks I thought it was an accident. I am completely comfortable with calling the guy a creep and a predator. That makes how this was handled even worse, IMO. This guy should be off the street or at the very least, the police should have him on their radar. The way Cupids handled this was probably the worst way they could have. He had a bad reputation, yet they called him a regular client. What broke down here? Were they happy to ignore his reputation until "surprise" he acted according to form? I don't buy the excuses not to get LE involved. OR - if their excuses are valid, then they should just accept the fact that this business has risks and if the consequences of these risks are not bad enough to call the police then simply accept them and move on or quit. Tweeting a name should never happen.

If Cupid’s knew this guy’s reputation and booked him anyway then they are culpable in this assault.

 

[Johnny Utah]

I agree.

So many good points. It sounds like it wasn’t an accident but I think we all should be worried about vigilante justice. I’ve had it out with an agency owner before and I’d hate to think they would out clients.

I’d like to think this is a community and that most of us are decent people. Cupid’s isn’t here to defend themselves but I feel sour to them, to say the least. I vote with my money.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

To set the record straight; He did this on purpose.

One reply from Cupid stated, “He thought this was consensual”

If he did that he's a scumbag. But you need a bit more evidence than that before you out someone

 

[frankcastle]

Wrong!!

Boycotting this agency means I like my privacy, and dont want my details aired on twitter without some due process.

The fact you automatically believe the accusations to be true tells me you're not very intelligent

WRONG!!!

It is a fact that sex assault accusations are more often true than false.

 

[frankcastle]

If Cupid’s knew this guy’s reputation and booked him anyway then they are culpable in this assault.

Maybe cupid gave the guy the benefit of doubt that his reputation was allegations?