Oh deary me! I guess you're one of those folks for whom an icon is absolutely necessary when identifying sarcasm!
jwm
Cowards
- Thread starter Rockslinger
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jwm
It wouldn't have taken much to push one of the many alarm strips that are in all subway cars. Are we sure no one did even that?Heard on the radio this morning that two punks on the Danforth subway assaulted and robbed a 79 year old senior while the other passengers sat and stared at the floor. Cowards! The two punks are cowards. The other passengers who did nothing are also cowards.
jwm
Lots of these crimes happen very quickly. They select the vic, hit and kick him a few times, grab the wallet and then head out the door. The bystanders may have taken a few seconds to react and that mat have been all the perps needed to take off with their booty. The couple of times that I have seen serious street violence happen, it has been very, very fast.
I don't give a shit about racial profiling. The fact of matter is that we all do it all the time.
Even Jesse Jackson admitted that when he's walking down the street at night and hears footsteps behind him and he turns and sees a white face, he relaxes cause he knows odds are he isn't going to get assaulted or worse.
There is nothing more painful to me ... than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. -- the Reverend Jesse Jackson, as quoted in US News, 3/10/96
The fact that they identified these two goofs as black is entirely important and frankly does not surprise me in the least.
Even Jesse Jackson admitted that when he's walking down the street at night and hears footsteps behind him and he turns and sees a white face, he relaxes cause he knows odds are he isn't going to get assaulted or worse.
There is nothing more painful to me ... than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. -- the Reverend Jesse Jackson, as quoted in US News, 3/10/96
The fact that they identified these two goofs as black is entirely important and frankly does not surprise me in the least.
That's shameful. As of late, this is happenin quite often. Cowards is right. Fu***@G pathetic
Yusef Hizel, the 79 year old victim, was interviewed by CTV News. He said not one of the 2 dozen passengers came to his aid, called 911 or push the yellow emergency strip.
I find that difficult to believe, however keeping oneself safe is first and foremost with most people.Heard on the radio this morning that two punks on the Danforth subway assaulted and robbed a 79 year old senior while the other passengers sat and stared at the floor. Cowards! The two punks are cowards. The other passengers who did nothing are also cowards.
Why not. If they are black, then so be it. Would you feel better and/or be OK with it if they were white and the headlines said "Two white guys ..."
I find this hard to believe also. No one did anything after the incident ?
Please, no one even went to see if he was OK after the punks left ?
I do not think we are getting the whole story in either case. At least I hope we are not getting the whole story.
Before you ask, yes I would have acted. I have twice.
Man they were so lucky I wasn't there. I would have gone all Gran Torino on their asses. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8coq2cUn1U Or maybe I would have pulled out Arnie, you know like in T2 where he takes the bikers clothes.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HC6A-6S3n1Y&feature=related Maybe I go retro and do a De Niro in Taxi driver http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aim7N6oTJJQ No, no, no...I would have done a Sly like in The Specialist.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u21B7LGMnMc Ya, that's the ticket.
Kind of reminds me of the story a few months ago about the old man who had a heart attack and collapsed on a sidewalk in Toronto... he was gasping for breath and trying to motion for help, but passersby just kept walking past him.
People are generally a bunch of mindless sheep. If they see noone else doing anything, they just follow the herd and do nothing. In this situation, any of the subway riders could have at least pushed the emergency strip without endangering their own safety... the fact that no one even did that is disgraceful.
People are generally a bunch of mindless sheep. If they see noone else doing anything, they just follow the herd and do nothing. In this situation, any of the subway riders could have at least pushed the emergency strip without endangering their own safety... the fact that no one even did that is disgraceful.
The 79 year old senior alone chased the two punks up the stairs but lost them. That 79 year old senior could be your father or grandfather.
The NYC incident is caught on tape. I saw it on CTV Newscast. One of the 20 passerbys went to the trouble of taking a cellphone photo before walking away. Another passerby actually turned the guy over (I thought he was searching for the stabbed man's wallet).
Just anticipating the reaction from the Loony Liberal Lefties. You know, the ones who said that it is discrimination for the police to keep race based statistics.
I disagree.The other passengers who did nothing are also cowards.
They simply lacked the courage to assist or felt that they too would be robbed if they tried to help. Keep in mind courage is not common, and most people don't have it. That doesn't make them cowards.
So, no one stepped in.. off hand, I`d call it shit for luck. You can never pre determine who will be there when shit goes down. When something like that happens, no one gets the time to make a moral assessment of the situation, decide if they will or will not step up and, if they do step up, how far will they take it.. Some of us can stand by.. and some of us can`t ... It's not a conscious decision, it's a gut reaction, it's who the fuck you are and you don't have a choice in it. If you were going to dive in, nothing could stop you. If you weren't, nothing could make you take action. Nothing...
Sometimes fifty people stand outside a burning building and hear screams.. and they all just stand there.. Sometimes it's just four people outside and it takes three people to hold the fourth one from going in.. Not having "it" in you doesn't fault or flaw you as a human being or indicate a huge moral failing, it simply is what it is.
A couple of years ago, there was an obvioulsly abusive domestic disturbance emanating from the apartment building behind my house. I could hear the female's distress as I called 911.. The operator stayed on the line as I called it in. I could see the cruisers out front of the building, yet still hear the female's screams of distress. I asked the 911 operator what the fuck was the hold up in dealing with this.. Her response?? The officers can't get access into the building.. I knew I was being recorded by her and didnt give a shit... I told her that if the officer couldn't get in the front door in the next sixty seconds, I would go over there ( a thirty second walk ) with my aluminum baseball bat and fucking get him access to the situation, and they could just fucking bill me for the mess.. I really didn't give a rat's ass about the glass lobby door.../.. I guess she took the hint that the boys should step up their game, because the screaming stopped thirty seconds later.. So, that's how it went down, they listened to a woman screaming for help, and didn't do jack shit because they worried about " proper access" . Seriously, I would have gone over and jacked the door and then gone to the door with the screaminng coming from behind it if I would have known that that was all that Peel Regional was good for,,
Like I said, when it's time to step up, whether you do or not was probably determined when your dad's condom broke..It's in you or it's not...
A couple of years ago, there was an obviously abusive domestic dispute in the apartment
Sometimes fifty people stand outside a burning building and hear screams.. and they all just stand there.. Sometimes it's just four people outside and it takes three people to hold the fourth one from going in.. Not having "it" in you doesn't fault or flaw you as a human being or indicate a huge moral failing, it simply is what it is.
A couple of years ago, there was an obvioulsly abusive domestic disturbance emanating from the apartment building behind my house. I could hear the female's distress as I called 911.. The operator stayed on the line as I called it in. I could see the cruisers out front of the building, yet still hear the female's screams of distress. I asked the 911 operator what the fuck was the hold up in dealing with this.. Her response?? The officers can't get access into the building.. I knew I was being recorded by her and didnt give a shit... I told her that if the officer couldn't get in the front door in the next sixty seconds, I would go over there ( a thirty second walk ) with my aluminum baseball bat and fucking get him access to the situation, and they could just fucking bill me for the mess.. I really didn't give a rat's ass about the glass lobby door.../.. I guess she took the hint that the boys should step up their game, because the screaming stopped thirty seconds later.. So, that's how it went down, they listened to a woman screaming for help, and didn't do jack shit because they worried about " proper access" . Seriously, I would have gone over and jacked the door and then gone to the door with the screaminng coming from behind it if I would have known that that was all that Peel Regional was good for,,
Like I said, when it's time to step up, whether you do or not was probably determined when your dad's condom broke..It's in you or it's not...
A couple of years ago, there was an obviously abusive domestic dispute in the apartment
No they aren't. Nobody here would have done anything either.The other passengers who did nothing are also cowards.
Are you going to risk getting shot over a robbery? nope.
I was not doubting you, Rock, just to be clear.
I did not know there was a tape. Who/what was taping the incident, did CTV say ?
I do not understand how it would make a difference if the victim was a relative of mine. I have a hard time believing a subway car load of people would not render aid of some sort after the thugs left.
If he chased the thugs, how is it known no one pressed the Emergency Strip ?
I am just asking. To me, it still seems like there are parts missing.
Please speak for yourself only. I am not a tough guy or a black belt or looking for a rush, but I definitely would not just stand by and watch an assault.
