Coronavirus: Are You Scared?
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"The nearly 15,000 people at that conference were told on March 16 to self-isolate by the provincial health officer, who confirmed that several cases of COVID-19 had been traced to the event, one of the largest of its kind in North America"
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/brit...nference-death-covid-19-coronavirus-1.5507159
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/brit...nference-death-covid-19-coronavirus-1.5507159
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S. Korea is popping off again. 100 new cases and 6 deaths overnight:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
I am not trying to lessen the seriousness of covid-19 and please no one think that, but I still wonder if the numbers are rising because more people are getting tested as opposed to a lot more people actually getting the virus compared to a month or two ago when hardly anyone was being tested.
They finally started posting the number of people tested, the positive tests, the negative tests, and the ones still pending. At least they are finally posting this information. I was hoping they would do so.
They finally started posting the number of people tested, the positive tests, the negative tests, and the ones still pending. At least they are finally posting this information. I was hoping they would do so.
100 new cases in Ontario today: https://www.cp24.com/news/ontario-r...es-bringing-provincial-total-to-688-1.4867566
The swine flu had a far lower death rate than the Coronavirus 0.3%-0.9% compared to 1%-3%.
Like I said above it's already way too late to mimic what Taiwan did or is doing, nor could we have been successful at doing it since Canadians and Taiwanese people are so different in the way they are.
This industry is a perfect example some people in Canada are more concerned about getting laid rather than worrying about the well being and health of themselves, the communities they live in and their immediate family or the people they are in contact with. It's ignorance at it's highest.
Unfortunately so many countries took the Coronavirus threat very lightly and waited until it was too late to act, they didn't learn anything from China as the only way to contain the spread of this virus is through mass and enforced quarantines and look where all those countries are with their death rates (Iran 7.0%, Italy 9.0%, Spain 7.0% , France 5.0%) and the unbelievable large number of cases.
I truly do hope that Trudeau invokes the emergencies act as soon as possible so everyone is forced to stay home and we can have some normality this summer.
I read a discussion of Italy's stats and why they were seeing a 10% or so mortality. The explanation is that most people see few symptoms or minor symptoms, tests are scarce so they don't get tested. So look at Italy's stats and multiply that number by 10 or so to get a mortality rate in line with China's. Similarly in the US, their test numbers are way low and here in Canada we don't test everyone who has had contact, just those who show symptom or more serious symptoms.
Half of Ontario's new cases are now coming from community transmission instead of mostly being from people travelling here as it was before.
That means its out there and spreading and not being tracked accurately.
Then, combine that with the fact that it takes 4 days to get results to tests here with Ontario having a backlog of tens of thousands of tests.
So Ontario's real numbers are likely much higher.
I think a lot of people are simply taking notice that this is not a joke and is not a flu, some simply think they have the flu bug and ignore until it's getting serious. When public service announcements tell you, if you have non serious sickness, give way to a more serious illness what do you think is going to happen? Those who have cough and fever but no difficulty in breathing would not get tested and assume they have a flu or cold...
Test kits are rationed.
Not everyone gets tested.
There simply are not enough test kits.
This is freaking me right the fuck out :Eek:
[video]https://www.nytimes.com/video/nyregion/100000007052136/coronavirus-elmhurst-hospital-queens.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes[/video]
[video]https://www.nytimes.com/video/nyregion/100000007052136/coronavirus-elmhurst-hospital-queens.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes[/video]
Wow, thanks!
This is what Toronto will face soon. We are NYC of the north.
Better to get sick now and get treated, because there won't be enough supplies in the coming months. Are Americans and Canadians mentally prepared to see bodies piling up in their own backyards? They love the movie version, but now it's real.
Bahrain, Belgium Report COVID-19 Treatment Touted By Trump Is Working For Patients
Bahrain and Belgium report their hospitals are successfully treating coronavirus patients with the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine touted by President Trump as a possible breakthrough in the pandemic.
The Kingdom of Bahrain's Supreme Council of Health chairman said his country was among the first to use the drug and that its impact has been "profound," according to the Bahrain News Agency. https://www.thestar.com.my/news/wor...world-to-use-hydroxychloroquine-for-treatment
Dr. Shaikh Mohamed, who leads the National Taskforce for Combating COVID-19, was also quoted by the news agency as saying hydroxychloroquine was administered according to the same regimens as those used in China and South Korea.
The first COVID-19 case in Bahrain was reported on Feb. 21, and hydroxychloroquine was first administered to patients showing virus symptoms on Feb. 26.
Bahrain has 419 deaths as a result of the virus, behind Croatia with 442 deaths worldwide, according to the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Research Center.
Hydroxychloroquine is used to prevent and treat malaria and is administered to patients with rheumatoid arthritis or lupus.
Meanwhile in Europe, another U.S. ally, Brussels, is reporting similar early success with the same drug and is taking steps to ensure its availability for the sickest coronavirus patients.
https://www.brusselstimes.com/all-n...ions-potential-treatment-against-coronavirus/
“Using the limited stocks of these medicines for unnecessary or unjustified preventive treatments jeopardizes the availability of these medicines for patients who need them: chronic patients and hospital patients seriously affected by Covid-19,” Belgium's Federal Agency for Medicines and Health Products said this week.
Belgium, like the United States, has begun a longer-term clinical trial on the efficacy of using Hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 patients.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-24/los-angeles-young-person-coronavirus-death
L.A. County teen’s death may be coronavirus-related. Here’s what we know
A playground cordoned off with caution tape
Children’s playground equipment is cordoned off at Venice Beach on Monday.(Al Seib / Los Angeles Times)
By COLLEEN SHALBY, RONG-GONG LIN II
MARCH 24, 20208:04 PM
A teenager who lived in Lancaster may be the first child to have died from the coronavirus, but confirming that will require additional testing, authorities said.
Los Angeles County health officials announced Tuesday what they believed to be the first COVID-19 death in the U.S. of someone younger than 18.
Experts have long said older people are more susceptible to the virus and that young people in general are less likely to contract the illness. But health officials said Tuesday the death underscores the threat that coronavirus poses to the entire population.
“This is a devastating reminder that COVID-19 affects people of all ages,” L.A. County Public Health Department Director Barbara Ferrer said.
“The juvenile fatality that the Los Angeles County Department Public Health reported earlier today will require further evaluation by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,” the statement read. “Though early tests indicated a positive result for COVID-19, the case is complex and there may be an alternate explanation for this fatality. Patient privacy prevents our offering further details at this time.”
The minor was a teenager who lived in Lancaster and did not have any preexisting conditions, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti said in a news briefing Tuesday evening.
The Public Health Department was working to confirm how the teenager might have contracted the virus. The agency also is also working to confirm whether the case marks the first such death of a minor linked to coronavirus in the country, but cases are not always broken down by age, said Tim Gilman, a representative for the department.
The death toll in Los Angeles County now stands at 11.
Tracking the coronavirus in California
California coronavirus cases: Tracking the outbreak
According to a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report released last week, there had been no coronavirus fatalities in the United States of people under 18. The report also said there had been no reported ICU admissions for people under 19.
Age breakdowns
Overall, relatively few young people have tested positive in Los Angeles County. But the data show people between the ages of 18 and 65 have tested positive most often. (These numbers exclude Pasadena and Long Beach.):
0-17: 10
18-40: 268
41-65: 250
65+: 107
In Orange County, the numbers are similar:
0-17: 1
18-49: 87
50-64: 41
65+ 23
Here are the statewide age breakdowns, as of Monday:
0-17: 25
18-49: 837
50-64: 442
65+: 415
Unknown age: 14
Child risks
Overall, officials have said young children are at lesser risk than older people for contracting the coronavirus.
One possible reason babies, toddlers and young children have not been critically threatened is because of their immature immune systems. An undeveloped immune system might prevent the body from triggering inflammation severe enough to result in pneumonia, septic shock or organ failure.
A sweeping review of 44,672 lab-confirmed COVID-19 patients in China published in early March by Chinese authorities found that no deaths occurred among anyone younger than 10.
Another study by experts in Wuhan, China — the initial epicenter of the outbreak — published in the Journal of the American Medical Assn. sought to review all hospitalized infants diagnosed with COVID-19 infection between Dec. 8 and Feb. 6 in China.
By Feb. 6, there had been 31,211 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and 637 fatalities. But the authors could find only nine infected babies who were hospitalized nationwide.
L.A. County reports first death of a possible coronavirus patient under 18 as COVID-19 cases top 660
“None of the nine infants required intensive care or mechanical ventilation or had any severe complications,” the study said.
Four had fever, two had mild upper respiratory tract symptoms, and one had no symptoms but tested positive for the virus because of the baby’s exposure to an infected family member. There were no symptoms available for the other two patients.
And a report published in the World Journal of Pediatrics, summarizing experts’ consensus on the coronavirus in children, also warned that people who have a “silent infection” are among the main sources of transmission for the illness.
“We also should attach importance to asymptomatic cases, which may play a critical role in the transmission process,” the report said. “Respiratory droplets and contact are the main transmission routes. Close contact with symptomatic cases and asymptomatic cases with silent infection are the main transmission routes of [novel coronavirus] infection in children.”
‘These are not numbers, these are neighbors,’ Garcetti says as coronavirus cases surge in L.A.
And while children are largely spared the worst effects of the coronavirus, the first reports to document COVID-19 deaths in children make clear that those under 18 are neither immune from infection nor completely spared from becoming very sick.
In China, the novel coronavirus has claimed the lives of a 10-month-old and a 14-year-old, at least.
Possible correlation
As officials try to determine the exact cause of death for the teenager, it’s possible the coronavirus and bacterial infection are correlated.
“We do know that respiratory viruses in general can exacerbate secondary bacterial infections,” said Dr. Yvonne Maldonado, a Stanford University professor of pediatric infectious diseases and the chair of the American Pediatrics Committee on Infectious Diseases.
Maldonado said it’s possible that a viral infection could worsen a bacterial superinfection and lead to a secondary bacterial infection, including pneumonia or sepsis.
“I see no reason why this virus would be any different,” she said.
PS With you giving out your expert advice ... I hope for you sake you did not indirectly cause someone become seriously!! You will have to live with your conscience if your advices did that.
