Cop who killed George Floyd stabbed in prison
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Yes it does.
But once in “custody” police have a duty of care.
And
There’s also positional aphyxiation
Other aspects of how the subject is restrained can also increase the risk of positional asphyxia death. Placing a knee or weight on the subject and particularly any type of restraint hold around the subject’s neck can be problematic.
How To Prevent Positional Asphyxia
By taking precautions in how people are restrained and by monitoring restrained subjects, officers can reduce the potential for in-custody death.
www.policemag.com
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In our hyper-partisan and hyper-sensitive environment, the narrative has to be a police aggressor killing a black man.
That narrative isn't very pretty and neat if you spend much time looking at Floyd's past, his drug usage that day and his likely future (violent crime? OD?). That doesn't mean Chauvin isn't a dirt bag and bad cop guilty of police brutality and aggression. It's just not as nice and neat a story as the media portrayed it.
I can't help but think if Floyd was white this would have been a minor note in the news. Chauvin might have been given a shorter prison sentence.
Looking at the original coroners report it's clear that Floyd's condition prior to his arrest was grave.
He was probably on his way out but Chauvin sealed the deal.
Kneeling on somebody's upper traps and neck area when their hands are cuffed behind their back and lying prone isn't warranted. Granted he had no way of knowing about Floyds medical condition but why act that reckless?
Chauvin was trying to inflict pain. There's no doubt in my mind about that. He's guilty of murder.
Then the media and social justice interlopers start doing their thing. Stoking fear and hate.
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I vaguely remember a story where a cop tasered a guy with a bad heart.
There should be a law that say a criminal with a bad heart should wear a sign that says:
"Me have bad heart, do not taser." Just kidding!
P.S. Still don't understand how Floyd died with an oxygen level of 98%?
It can happen to people without pre existing medical conditions. It can happen to people on Fentanyl or not. In short anyone.
How long was Floyd on the ground proned out? Was weight applied to his back around the lungs/diaphragm/muscles. And or his neck.
How long without assisting to a recovery position that reduces the risk. How long did they all stand around ( duty of care)
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Dude, 4 times a lethal dose in the blood stream and dies via the same mechanism as an overdose. Connect the dots.
“Dude”
It’s called positional asphyxiation. What does that last word mean? Why are police trained
not to do the things he and they did?
Even kids that arent in struggles, then have breathing restricted.
Protecting Infants and Toddlers from Positional Asphyxia: Car Seats and Sling Carriers - Oklahoma State University
The dangers and preventative methods of seat belt asphyxia for children from car seats and sling carries in a vehicle.
extension.okstate.edu
If Chauvin wasn't a white cop we wouldn't be talking about a stabbing in an american prison.
I am confused...you think blacks don't get shanked in prison?
The more accurate and fairer question for Frank is. “Do you not think….if any cop following any infamous event, no matter their race, was shanked. That it wouldn’t make headlines?”
One has to wonder sometimes, just who is actually prejudiced.
That's the point, they do all the time and it doesn't make the news.
Derek Chauvin’s reported stabbing was unlikely the most gruesome thing that happened across the nation’s prisons and jails on Friday. But it highlights the sordid nature of our less visible institutions that can be further obscured by a villainous victim.
accidently GOT unlocked
and what a coincidence, guy with a shiv HAPPENED to be right outside the doorEasy to bash George.
Nice citizen.
Among the numerous times he was arrested and convicted is when he dressed up in delivery mans uniform, forced his way into a house and had a loaded gun pressed into the neck of a defenseless pregnent women that was in the house.
Democrat judges let guys like this out way too early to let them commit more crimes just as he was doing when he got arrested.
Yes it was a political conviction in order to stop more rioting.
Lets all mourn for George Who contributed nothing but crime in our society..
That still does not make it right for Chauvin to kill him in broad daylight with 3 colleagues looking at him doing nothing.
Here's the thing, if nobody filmed this or made a fuss about it, how likely is it that Chauvin would have faced any consequences? Zero. I'm not saying all cops are racist, or the use of force against black people is always unnecessary, but I do think this would've been swept under the rug. But there is a record for how long he knelt on Floyd's neck. And, the reality here is, it doesn't matter what a POS Floyd might have been, cruelty, neglect, and physical abuse are not appropriate from a cop.
Now, all that being said, I think it is bad he got shanked. I also am surprised that guards would allow it to happen, unless he was a mouthy punk who demanded special treatment...But, the US prison system is FUBAR, and lord knows it needs to be reformed...
Now, be honest, do you think Chauvin intended to kill Floyd, or even thought there was any possibility that what he was doing would kill Floyd, or rather that he just didn't believe that Floyd was in the state of physical distress he was (leaving aside why he was in distress)?
I don't think he intended to kill him, but maybe inflict pain and show him who's boss. And I also don't know the difference between 2nd and 3rd degree murder and manslaughter is in Minnesota. But it also has some striking similarities to that dude in New York who was choked to death for selling loose cigarettes. The point here is they both used illegal restraint techniques that resulted in the person's death. It is also important to remember that in the eyes of the law, the victims were technically not guilty of any crime at that point. So, their deaths can be viewed as an extrajudicial murder.
Why do you say he used an illegal restraint? Wasn't the evidence that officers in his police force were trained in the use of neck restraints? Or does it just become illegal when it causes more harm than expected, or isn't done correctly?
In your opinion, didn't Chauvin have probable cause to arrest Floyd, and didn't Floyd's refusal to be put in the back seat of the police car, and his wrestling with officers, provide just cause to restrain him in some manner? Police forces around the world have used neck restraints thousands of times without anyone suffering serious injury or dying. Can't just about ANY form of restraint lead to serious harm or death, depending on the medical status of person being arrested? Was Chauvin made an example of because he didn't recognize that Floyd's distress was real? If so, that's a pretty tough perspective.
