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The hits keep coming.
 

danmand

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CNN is doing great work.
 

Butler1000

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And another piece of the supposed puzzle doesn't fit.

At some point the whole card house will collapse.
 

bver_hunter

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But Sessions recused himself from the Russia investigation and Trump said that he should resign. Why did he not listen to Trump? Why did he recuse himself in the first place if he is a Saint?

When Fox News puts out numerous fake news and retracts them like the navy seal one, we do not bother as sometimes all news media make mistakes. But the righties go on and on about the usual fake news nonsense.

http://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-retracts-story-about-fake-navy-seal-689285

Off course the worst attack was on Obama by Fox News and Trump with the Birther Movement. Still no one got the axe for it.
 

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Frankfooter

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Breeding distrust of the media is laying the ground getting away with serious corruption.
Once you convince the people, or at least your followers, that all negative stories are 'fake news' then you can get away anything.

Nepotism.
Profiting off government contracts.
Breaking laws.
Collusion.
Messing with elections.

Who do you guys trust for media?
Breitbart and Fox news, the new 'state media'?
Do you really want an American Pravda?
 

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It's not just CNN. The MSM is toast. The good journalists all got fired a long time ago. They either found other professions or started blog sites. All we're left with in the MSM are talking tits and meat puppets to regurgitate the Gov't BS. It's the same reason why our Politicians are so pathetic. Good quality people that would get involved and help move the Country in a positive way have given up. The only thing left are shallow low intellect and often depraved perverts that are easily bought/bribed. And it goes deep into the Universities and Colleges and now into Elementary and pre-school. It's pathetic and frightening at the same time.

And in the current environment TPTB actually have paid for trolls. Just carnival barkers really. They're so low minded that they can't even recognize the damage they're causing. It's no wonder Western Civilization is collapsing.
 

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Of course you and the headline get it exactly wrong. The "newly released" document was exculpatory and CNN reported on it.
Somehow you managed to miss that in May they reported the false story as evidence of collusion and lying on the part of the Attorney General. Now they have had to admit that the Attorney General told the truth and that their previous articles were false.
 

Frankfooter

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It's not just CNN. The MSM is toast. The good journalists all got fired a long time ago. They either found other professions or started blog sites. All we're left with in the MSM are talking tits and meat puppets to regurgitate the Gov't BS. It's the same reason why our Politicians are so pathetic. Good quality people that would get involved and help move the Country in a positive way have given up. The only thing left are shallow low intellect and often depraved perverts that are easily bought/bribed. And it goes deep into the Universities and Colleges and now into Elementary and pre-school. It's pathetic and frightening at the same time.

And in the current environment TPTB actually have paid for trolls. Just carnival barkers really. They're so low minded that they can't even recognize the damage they're causing. It's no wonder Western Civilization is collapsing.
The MSM is not toast.

There are still lots of good journalists working under massive pressure and smaller budgets to get it right. There are more mistakes, because of budget cutbacks, but that doesn't mean its 'toast'.

You need to tell us where you get your news and how much you trust it.
And how you verify it as accurate.
 

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Particularly when they get it dead wrong.
Everyone gets something wrong once in a while. At least, CNN owns up. Compare that to Hannity and his tenacious defence of that conspiracy theory about Hillary murdering the DNC staffer who - according to the Right Wing nutbar press - hacked her emails. IIRC, Hannity still has not retracted or apologized for that crap and he wasn't disciplined.
 

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Somehow you managed to miss that in May they reported the false story as evidence of collusion and lying on the part of the Attorney General. Now they have had to admit that the Attorney General told the truth and that their previous articles were false.
Ah no they reported on a newly released document. That is what in the industry is know as news. It Trump ever admitted he made a mistake or corrected any of the lies he tells the country would be better served. fortunately for him he has people like you who eat up his bullshit and that is what he feeds o n.
 

Frankfooter

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Ah no they reported on a newly released document. That is what in the industry is know as news. It Trump ever admitted he made a mistake or corrected any of the lies he tells the country would be better served. fortunately for him he has people like you who eat up his bullshit and that is what he feeds o n.
Trump still is a birther, as well.
And remember pizzagate?

The alt-right media is way worse.
 

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I’m A Liberal, And I Agree With Sean Hannity That American Journalism Is Dead
The 2016 election opened my eyes to this ‘Truman Show’-like media universe we’ve all been inhabiting.

I’m a liberal Democrat who didn’t realize for a long time that our mainstream media is biased. For years, I consumed news and commentary from my favorite media sites uncritically: CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times. From time to time, I watched Fox News to see what “the other side” was saying.

I lived in a kind of information bubble, but like most bubble-dwellers I didn’t know I was living in one. Ironically, the 2016 election opened my eyes to this “Truman Show”-like media universe we’ve all been inhabiting.

My awakening came accidentally when I realized in 2016 that I just couldn’t support Hillary Clinton (I ended up protest-voting for Gary Johnson). I thought Clinton was arrogant, entitled, corrupt, and dishonest. I couldn’t believe the Democratic Party would nominate someone who was the subject of an FBI investigation.

But as 2016 rolled on, I became quietly incensed. I couldn’t help noticing repeatedly that the mainstream media was shielding and enabling Clinton in her dissembling and media avoidance. I noticed that the commentators at CNN, MSNBC, and the NYT either ignored or made light of Clinton’s many problem areas: the private email server, compromising of state secrets, and the questionable multimillion-dollar donations to the Clinton Foundation. (Yes, the Times broke the story in 2015 about Clinton’s personal email account, but I’m talking here about its 2016 treatment of her candidacy.)

Ironically, had I been a Clinton supporter, I’d have likely been blind to the media bias. To be clear, I’m not talking about individual reporting, which is usually great, but a persistent institutional bias that colors almost all coverage and commentary.

Then I Couldn’t Un-See the Bias
Once you become aware of something, you keep seeing it all the time. So, almost every time I watched or read something, I saw the media bias: in the way headlines were framed, in what they chose to cover, in the way they devoted the barest minimum time to Clinton’s problems.

To be sure, the media on the Right is often biased as well. The degree to which Sean Hannity carries water for Trump is often amusing to watch. But the mainstream media’s bias is something else, and it affects me personally. It leaves me feeling angry, betrayed, frustrated.

As an immigrant from India who didn’t know much about the politics of this country 15 or 16 years ago, for years I trusted many mainstream outlets to give me an honest view of current events. It is now apparent to me that they haven’t presented an objective picture of current events, but a slanted, curated version that serves their purposes.

As an avid media consumer, I expect from journalists objective, honest, fair-minded presentation, and analysis of all the facts available in any situation without taking sides. Commentators and pundits, of course, can take sides, but they’re still expected to be fair, honest and rational. It is what I, as a part-time opinion columnist, try to do when I write for my city paper.

The minute journalists take sides and favor one side over the other, and try to actively effect a desired outcome, they lose credibility with their viewers and readers. Once lost, that credibility can’t be regained.

The 2016 Election Was a Blizzard of Bias
Throughout 2016, I watched with increasing trepidation what was happening to American journalism. Many media organizations decided to suspend normal journalistic practices to save the republic from Donald Trump, whom they believed was a danger to democracy. I agree that Trump is a danger to democratic norms, but think journalists seriously harmed their institutions by entering the fray.

Some examples: The Times’ left-leaning columnists wrote mostly anti-Trump columns for much of 2016, and acted like Hillary’s problems were happening in a galaxy faraway. Paul Krugman, especially, lost credibility in my eyes for literally becoming a Hillary shill in 2016, insisting repeatedly that her email troubles were overblown and a right-wing concoction.

I couldn’t bear to watch Rachel Maddow in 2016 and still can’t. She’s a fine journalist who has wide knowledge and command of the facts, but her relentless, overdone partisanship was and is too much for me.

Things got so bad that The New York Times issued a post-election letter to its subscribers, saying they looked forward to “rededicat[ing] ourselves to the fundamental mission of Times journalism.” But it was too late, at least for me. The damage was done, and I’ll never look at the paper the same way again.

Preening Is Not the Job of a Reporter
Things got even worse after the election. The mainstream media, shamed and humbled by Trump’s election victory, decided to attack him with a vengeance on everything he said and did.

They didn’t actually have to overdo it. By virtue of his personality, President Trump gave them a lot of material, and they’d have been fine if they’d covered his flaws and missteps straight up. But they overplayed their hand, and not a little. Many mainstream journalists have become a little grandiose. They’ve joined the “Resistance,” and see themselves as grand defenders of democracy, as brave protectors of norms and institutions.

The result is, you see a lot of preening, grandstanding, boundary-crossing journalism. It is painful to watch CNN’s Jim Acosta often preen and editorialize on-air even though he is a White House correspondent and his job is to report. It is painful to watch White House reporter April Ryan ask an overwrought question, such as “Does this [presidential] administration think that slavery is wrong?”

It is equally painful to see that these shenanigans play well with Democratic viewers. Unfortunately, liberal audiences have become so conditioned, so bubble-oriented that they don’t recognize the journalistic malpractice going on before their very eyes.

Donna Brazile’s Accusations Were Big News

What actually prompted me to write this article was something that seemed to me like the last straw. It was the Donna Brazile story—her recent explosive allegations that the 2016 Democratic Party primary was riddled with malpractice, that Hillary had secretly taken over the Democratic National Committee a year before becoming the Democratic nominee.

You’d think this was a huge news story, but not if you were following CBS, NBC, ABC, or The New York Times. In the crucial initial days, these outlets devoted little or no time to it. They covered the story days after Politico broke the story, and Brazile appeared subsequently on “Morning Joe,” ABC’s “This Week,” and so on, but it was too late.

The Times especially outdid itself. It buried the Brazile story deep within a story titled, “Hillary Clinton Gets an Award and Tears are Shed.” In the first couple days when the story broke, I got a better sense of the story when I watched “Tucker Carlson Tonight” and read Glenn Greenwald’s commentary.

By not giving this story the coverage it deserved in the initial days, the mainstream media, in some ways, confirmed to me what President Trump has been saying for some time: that they are often dishonest and biased. Commentators like Michael Kinsley and Glenn Greenwald have written about this general bias. I still watch CNN and enjoy the Times’ non-political articles. But I watch and read their political coverage with cynical, distrusting eyes.

It’s not just our politics that is broken; our media is broken too, and hopelessly. The bias used to be hidden, but now it is open, glaring, and shameless. Our media outlets have become very tribal and are openly rooting for or against the party and politician of their choice—truth, fairness, honesty, justice, and journalistic principles be damned.

I didn’t go to a fancy journalism school, and don’t even have a journalism degree, but I know enough to realize that what is happening is bad, and that when the media self-divide into rabidly partisan camps, citizens suffer and democracy suffers. When Sean Hannity says “journalism has died in America,” I agree with him.




When the left open their eyes, there is a lot to see.
 

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If you don’t see the bias and outright hostility in news organizations you are blind, can’t really say it any more clearly.
 

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Ah no they reported on a newly released document. That is what in the industry is know as news. It Trump ever admitted he made a mistake or corrected any of the lies he tells the country would be better served. fortunately for him he has people like you who eat up his bullshit and that is what he feeds o n.
"CNN has quietly walked back more of their “bombshell” reporting on the Trump-Russia collusion narrative. . .

In May, CNN reported that Sessions had failed to disclose meetings he had with the Russian ambassador when he was a senator. Justice Department officials told CNN that Sessions had not listed those meetings on a security clearance form, even though the form says to list “any contact” with the “foreign government” or its “representatives” in the past seven years.

CNN framed the non-disclosures as more evidence of collusion between Russia and the Trump team, writing, “He has come under withering criticism from Democrats following revelations that he did not disclose the same contacts with Kislyak during his Senate confirmation hearings earlier this year.”

At the time, Sessions said he was told by the FBI not to list meetings “connected with his Senate activities,” but CNN’s legal expert denied those claims."


Now CNN in an article by Evan Perez has admitted “A newly released document shows that the FBI told an aide to Attorney General Jeff Sessions that Sessions wasn’t required to disclose foreign contacts that occurred in the course of carrying out his government duties when he was a senator.” Which of course is what the Attorney General and the DOJ had said back in May. However, CNN never came straight out and said we smeared the Attorney General rather they merely said that "The FBI email from March bolsters the explanation by the Justice Department" this I suppose is a new euphemism for the document confirms exactly what had been said.
 

Frankfooter

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If you don’t see the bias and outright hostility in news organizations you are blind, can’t really say it any more clearly.
Every news organization has a bias.

Its up to you to make sure that you get your news from a variety of sources and check on them every once in a while to make sure that they are legit.
Read stories from a variety to also understand other's views.

Up here, read CBC's news, check the Star, Globe and Post and compare them with sources around the world like the BBC, Al Jazeera, CNN, etc.

The worst thing you can do is read only extreme partisan news, like Fox and Breitbart, and assume their stories are correct, that's just as bad as only reading left wing sources and not checking them as well.

Tapper on CNN, for instance, does a good job nailing Trump for pushing fake news himself.
https://www.salon.com/2017/12/12/jake-tapper-slams-trumps-fake-news-hypocrisy-in-must-see-video/
 
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