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You lost me at quoting Sean Hannity .. he is an outright liar and should have been fired ages ago. Quoting anything this sleazy turd says immediately indicates the same caution as quotes from Hitler on equality of the races.

Sean Hannity and /or Fox News has had to apologize for many fake news items but they know that their core audience will gobble up an ride on false stories while ignoring the retractions. Pizza Gate, the fake year book, Uranium One are among many that still make the threads by Trump lackeys and conspiracy crazies even though long proven false.
 

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"CNN has quietly walked back more of their “bombshell” reporting on the Trump-Russia collusion narrative. . .

In May, CNN reported that Sessions had failed to disclose meetings he had with the Russian ambassador when he was a senator. Justice Department officials told CNN that Sessions had not listed those meetings on a security clearance form, even though the form says to list “any contact” with the “foreign government” or its “representatives” in the past seven years.

CNN framed the non-disclosures as more evidence of collusion between Russia and the Trump team, writing, “He has come under withering criticism from Democrats following revelations that he did not disclose the same contacts with Kislyak during his Senate confirmation hearings earlier this year.”

At the time, Sessions said he was told by the FBI not to list meetings “connected with his Senate activities,” but CNN’s legal expert denied those claims."


Now CNN in an article by Evan Perez has admitted “A newly released document shows that the FBI told an aide to Attorney General Jeff Sessions that Sessions wasn’t required to disclose foreign contacts that occurred in the course of carrying out his government duties when he was a senator.” Which of course is what the Attorney General and the DOJ had said back in May. However, CNN never came straight out and said we smeared the Attorney General rather they merely said that "The FBI email from March bolsters the explanation by the Justice Department" this I suppose is a new euphemism for the document confirms exactly what had been said.
Why do you keep ignoring the "newly released document" which is what they are reporting on.
 

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I’m A Liberal, And I Agree With Sean Hannity That American Journalism Is Dead
The 2016 election opened my eyes to this ‘Truman Show’-like media universe we’ve all been inhabiting.

I’m a liberal Democrat who didn’t realize for a long time that our mainstream media is biased. For years, I consumed news and commentary from my favorite media sites uncritically: CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times. From time to time, I watched Fox News to see what “the other side” was saying.

I lived in a kind of information bubble, but like most bubble-dwellers I didn’t know I was living in one. Ironically, the 2016 election opened my eyes to this “Truman Show”-like media universe we’ve all been inhabiting.

My awakening came accidentally when I realized in 2016 that I just couldn’t support Hillary Clinton (I ended up protest-voting for Gary Johnson). I thought Clinton was arrogant, entitled, corrupt, and dishonest. I couldn’t believe the Democratic Party would nominate someone who was the subject of an FBI investigation.

But as 2016 rolled on, I became quietly incensed. I couldn’t help noticing repeatedly that the mainstream media was shielding and enabling Clinton in her dissembling and media avoidance. I noticed that the commentators at CNN, MSNBC, and the NYT either ignored or made light of Clinton’s many problem areas: the private email server, compromising of state secrets, and the questionable multimillion-dollar donations to the Clinton Foundation. (Yes, the Times broke the story in 2015 about Clinton’s personal email account, but I’m talking here about its 2016 treatment of her candidacy.)

Ironically, had I been a Clinton supporter, I’d have likely been blind to the media bias. To be clear, I’m not talking about individual reporting, which is usually great, but a persistent institutional bias that colors almost all coverage and commentary.

Then I Couldn’t Un-See the Bias
Once you become aware of something, you keep seeing it all the time. So, almost every time I watched or read something, I saw the media bias: in the way headlines were framed, in what they chose to cover, in the way they devoted the barest minimum time to Clinton’s problems.

To be sure, the media on the Right is often biased as well. The degree to which Sean Hannity carries water for Trump is often amusing to watch. But the mainstream media’s bias is something else, and it affects me personally. It leaves me feeling angry, betrayed, frustrated.

As an immigrant from India who didn’t know much about the politics of this country 15 or 16 years ago, for years I trusted many mainstream outlets to give me an honest view of current events. It is now apparent to me that they haven’t presented an objective picture of current events, but a slanted, curated version that serves their purposes.

As an avid media consumer, I expect from journalists objective, honest, fair-minded presentation, and analysis of all the facts available in any situation without taking sides. Commentators and pundits, of course, can take sides, but they’re still expected to be fair, honest and rational. It is what I, as a part-time opinion columnist, try to do when I write for my city paper.

The minute journalists take sides and favor one side over the other, and try to actively effect a desired outcome, they lose credibility with their viewers and readers. Once lost, that credibility can’t be regained.

The 2016 Election Was a Blizzard of Bias
Throughout 2016, I watched with increasing trepidation what was happening to American journalism. Many media organizations decided to suspend normal journalistic practices to save the republic from Donald Trump, whom they believed was a danger to democracy. I agree that Trump is a danger to democratic norms, but think journalists seriously harmed their institutions by entering the fray.

Some examples: The Times’ left-leaning columnists wrote mostly anti-Trump columns for much of 2016, and acted like Hillary’s problems were happening in a galaxy faraway. Paul Krugman, especially, lost credibility in my eyes for literally becoming a Hillary shill in 2016, insisting repeatedly that her email troubles were overblown and a right-wing concoction.

I couldn’t bear to watch Rachel Maddow in 2016 and still can’t. She’s a fine journalist who has wide knowledge and command of the facts, but her relentless, overdone partisanship was and is too much for me.

Things got so bad that The New York Times issued a post-election letter to its subscribers, saying they looked forward to “rededicat[ing] ourselves to the fundamental mission of Times journalism.” But it was too late, at least for me. The damage was done, and I’ll never look at the paper the same way again.

Preening Is Not the Job of a Reporter
Things got even worse after the election. The mainstream media, shamed and humbled by Trump’s election victory, decided to attack him with a vengeance on everything he said and did.

They didn’t actually have to overdo it. By virtue of his personality, President Trump gave them a lot of material, and they’d have been fine if they’d covered his flaws and missteps straight up. But they overplayed their hand, and not a little. Many mainstream journalists have become a little grandiose. They’ve joined the “Resistance,” and see themselves as grand defenders of democracy, as brave protectors of norms and institutions.

The result is, you see a lot of preening, grandstanding, boundary-crossing journalism. It is painful to watch CNN’s Jim Acosta often preen and editorialize on-air even though he is a White House correspondent and his job is to report. It is painful to watch White House reporter April Ryan ask an overwrought question, such as “Does this [presidential] administration think that slavery is wrong?”

It is equally painful to see that these shenanigans play well with Democratic viewers. Unfortunately, liberal audiences have become so conditioned, so bubble-oriented that they don’t recognize the journalistic malpractice going on before their very eyes.

Donna Brazile’s Accusations Were Big News

What actually prompted me to write this article was something that seemed to me like the last straw. It was the Donna Brazile story—her recent explosive allegations that the 2016 Democratic Party primary was riddled with malpractice, that Hillary had secretly taken over the Democratic National Committee a year before becoming the Democratic nominee.

You’d think this was a huge news story, but not if you were following CBS, NBC, ABC, or The New York Times. In the crucial initial days, these outlets devoted little or no time to it. They covered the story days after Politico broke the story, and Brazile appeared subsequently on “Morning Joe,” ABC’s “This Week,” and so on, but it was too late.

The Times especially outdid itself. It buried the Brazile story deep within a story titled, “Hillary Clinton Gets an Award and Tears are Shed.” In the first couple days when the story broke, I got a better sense of the story when I watched “Tucker Carlson Tonight” and read Glenn Greenwald’s commentary.

By not giving this story the coverage it deserved in the initial days, the mainstream media, in some ways, confirmed to me what President Trump has been saying for some time: that they are often dishonest and biased. Commentators like Michael Kinsley and Glenn Greenwald have written about this general bias. I still watch CNN and enjoy the Times’ non-political articles. But I watch and read their political coverage with cynical, distrusting eyes.

It’s not just our politics that is broken; our media is broken too, and hopelessly. The bias used to be hidden, but now it is open, glaring, and shameless. Our media outlets have become very tribal and are openly rooting for or against the party and politician of their choice—truth, fairness, honesty, justice, and journalistic principles be damned.

I didn’t go to a fancy journalism school, and don’t even have a journalism degree, but I know enough to realize that what is happening is bad, and that when the media self-divide into rabidly partisan camps, citizens suffer and democracy suffers. When Sean Hannity says “journalism has died in America,” I agree with him.




When the left open their eyes, there is a lot to see.
If it is dead, and I dot agree that it is, then it is Bretibart, Limberger, Hannity and Fox et al and the right wing blogs that killed it, which is of course their goal aided and abetted by Trump. If news becomes unreliable and facts are irrelevant it becomes much easier to pass the frauds like tax reform and healthcare reform for the benefit of the Kochs and Mercers and Trumps etc..
 

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Why do you keep ignoring the "newly released document" which is what they are reporting on.
All the "newly released document" does is confirm that the Attorney General and the DOJ were correct in what they said back in May, and CNN and its expert were wrong.
 

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All the "newly released document" does is confirm that the Attorney General and the DOJ were correct in what they said back in May, and CNN and its expert were wrong.
Well then why didn't he or someone release that document at the time? You have it wrong. CNN should be commended for adding new news which corrects the record. that is what good journalists are supposed to do rather than doubling down of lies.
 

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Well then why didn't he or someone release that document at the time? You have it wrong. CNN should be commended for adding new news which corrects the record. that is what good journalists are supposed to do rather than doubling down of lies.
One could say the same thing why didn't President Obama ask for his long form birth certificate to be released back before he took office to stop the birther talk dead in its tracks.
 

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One could say the same thing why didn't President Obama ask for his long form birth certificate to be released back before he took office to stop the birther talk dead in its tracks.
Why hasn't Trump released his taxes?
Maybe he would have stopped some of the investigations.

Oh, new poll out.
Most popular three words Americans used to describe Trump?
Idiot.
Liar.
Incompetent.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2507
 

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One could say the same thing why didn't President Obama ask for his long form birth certificate to be released back before he took office to stop the birther talk dead in its tracks.
No one could not say the same thing at all. Well not someone who is trying to have an intelligent conversation at least.
 

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One could say the same thing why didn't President Obama ask for his long form birth certificate to be released back before he took office to stop the birther talk dead in its tracks.
Why does the hypocrite Trump not release his tax returns to show that everything is above board??
The Obama birth certificate only seems to bother Trump, Breitbart and Fox News. Obama is a man of integrity, and he would not have run for President if he was not eligible. Look at Obama's record on scandals in two terms of office, compared to Trump's first year.
How many women have come out to accuse Obama of sexual assaults, or students with scam University allegations etc.??
 

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I may have missed it, but did Trump apologize for posting fake videos of Muslim wrongdoings?
 

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You lost me at quoting Sean Hannity .. he is an outright liar and should have been fired ages ago. Quoting anything this sleazy turd says immediately indicates the same caution as quotes from Hitler on equality of the races.

Sean Hannity and /or Fox News has had to apologize for many fake news items but they know that their core audience will gobble up an ride on false stories while ignoring the retractions. Pizza Gate, the fake year book, Uranium One are among many that still make the threads by Trump lackeys and conspiracy crazies even though long proven false.
I love watching the Sean Hannity fiction show. Trust me it is a hilarious comedy show. His breaking news is a mish mash of some warped ideas that have been debunked. Not one fact, and nothing negative about Trump and his blatant lies. Last night he invited a Democrat supporter to answer a warped question about some of Mueller's team actually donating to the Clinton campaign. The Democrat supporter responded by saying that Mueller and the Justice team does not ask those questions when vetting Mueller's team. This is when Hannity started cutting him off. But he managed to reveal that all of the personnel of the Ken Starr team were Republican members and donors to the Republican Party. This is when Hannity refused to listen to this fact and cut him off. Hannity is the biggest moron.
 

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As I posted in another thread, news agencies at least correct their mistakes (unlike the guy in the Oval Office).
Why are all of their mistakes in one direction, ever ask yourself that?
 

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Why are all of their mistakes in one direction, ever ask yourself that?
Well history shows that the sitting President will be minutely scrutinised, and any screwups will be called out. What do you think Fox News and Breitbart did during Obama's tenure? This is what democracy is all about. Guess Trump prefers the Russian system, where Putin decides what is news.
 

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Why are all of their mistakes in one direction, ever ask yourself that?
You mean like pizzagate?
The birther movement?
Or more like the exposed project veritas crap that Trump funded?


Hey, did you read USA today?
A president who'd all but call a senator a whore is unfit to clean toilets in Obama's presidential library or to shine George W. Bush's shoes: Our view
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...hit-rock-bottom-editorials-debates/945947001/

Nice.

They continue.
He is enthusiastically supporting Alabama's Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore, who has been accused of pursuing — and in one case molesting and in another assaulting — teenagers as young as 14 when Moore was a county prosecutor in his 30s. On Tuesday, Trump summed up his willingness to support a man accused of criminal conduct: “Roy Moore will always vote with us.”

Trump apparently is going for some sort of record for lying while in office. As of mid-November, he had made 1,628 misleading or false statements in 298 days in office. That’s 5.5 false claims per day, according to a count kept by The Washington Post’s fact-checkers.

Trump takes advantage of any occasion — even Monday’s failed terrorist attack in New York — to stir racial, religious or ethnic strife. Congress “must end chain migration,” he said Monday, because the terror suspect “entered our country through extended-family chain migration, which is incompatible with national security.” So because one man — 27-year-old Akayed Ullah, a lawful permanent resident of the U.S. who came from Bangladesh on a family immigrant visa in 2011 — is accused of attacking America, all immigrants brought to this country by family are suspect? Trump might have some credibility if his criticism of immigrants was solely about terrorists. It isn’t. It makes no difference to him if an immigrant is a terrorist or a federal judge. He once smeared an Indiana-born judge whose parents emigrated from Mexico. It’s all the same to this president.

A man who clearly wants to put his stamp on the government, Trump hasn’t even done his job when it comes to filling key government positions that require Senate confirmation. As of last week, Trump had failed to nominate anyone for 60% of 1,200 key positions he can fill to keep the government running smoothly.
Trump has shown contempt for ethical strictures that have bound every president in recent memory. He has refused to release his tax returns, with the absurd excuse that it’s because he is under audit. He has refused to put his multibillion dollar business interests in a blind trust and peddles the fiction that putting them in the hands of his sons does the same thing.

Not to mention calling white supremacists "very fine people," pardoning a lawless sheriff, firing a respected FBI director, and pushing the Justice Department to investigate his political foes.

A president who shows such disrespect for the truth, for ethics, for the basic duties of the job and for decency toward others fails at the very essence of what has always made America great.
Trump really has a way to rally the people behind him, eh?
 
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