Here is where the science lies:
IPCC — Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
www.ipcc.ch
If your position wasn't ideological you'd be starting the debate there.
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If your position wasn't ideological you'd be starting the debate there.
Oh look who it is, someone who types a lot but doesn't really add anything to the discussion....
How long can you tread water?
keep whining, its getting you nowhere fast
too funny
you will not survive without fossil fuels
yet Antarctica will still hold 90% of the worlds ice long after you are gone
now i am pretty sure you have other causes where you get to put your virtue signaling self -righteousness on display, where you get to lord over others
why don't you scurry along to one of those causes
& then get back to us once you have completely weaned yourself off of fossil fuels and you actually claim some moral superiority
though it would be for not as you would still be clueless about atmospheric physics and still wrong,
until then, we are fed up with your self righteous whining
I have a question. I wonder who might want to answer it. The situation in Juneua Alaska. If we have known that the Northwest passage has slowly been opening for a few decades if not more. Probably now, close to 50-60 years..Why have any and all government officials, allowed and continue allow building in obvious areas, and or along coastlines……and perhaps maybe instead of panicking over that, is it not time to start putting more energy into “what next, where next”??
Crops.
It should surprise no-one that as the average temperatures increase, precipitation patterns change. Yet for some inexplicable reason so many here seem shocked and utterly dismayed. .
Who says, what grows here in Canada today, won’t instead grow somewhere else. Who says, that crops growing in warmer, dryer or wetter environments won’t grow and thrive here tomorrow..weather patterns are and will change. As will what grows and lives wherever.
Here’s a quote from one article I recalled
Also found crocodile tears about “invasive” species telling. Oh no!!!!!!Some will die off, some will thrive, some will migrate out, some in…
One thing I am fairly certain of. The hubris and audacity of mankind knows no limits. Always thinking it knows better than nature.
A thousand years ago….the population of various species would have been more resilient. A thousand years ago the planet wasn’t infected by us…The problem is us, and our population growth…as always few want to look at, talk about that..
Nor can I quite figure out why, with a cash cow like fossil. Few want to capitalize on it while we can and make, the actual changes we should be. Thinking about tomorrow, because it is coming…..No matter how much cauterwualing , twisting like fish on hooks we do.
Crops.
It should surprise no-one that as the average temperatures increase, precipitation patterns change. Yet for some inexplicable reason so many here seem shocked and utterly dismayed. .
Who says, what grows here in Canada today, won’t instead grow somewhere else. Who says, that crops growing in warmer, dryer or wetter environments won’t grow and thrive here tomorrow..weather patterns are and will change. As will what grows and lives wherever.
Here’s a quote from one article I recalled
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6325834
Also found crocodile tears about “invasive” species telling. Oh no!!!!!!Some will die off, some will thrive, some will migrate out, some in…
One thing I am fairly certain of. The hubris and audacity of mankind knows no limits. Always thinking it knows better than nature.
A thousand years ago….the population of various species would have been more resilient. A thousand years ago the planet wasn’t infected by us…The problem is us, and our population growth…as always few want to look at, talk about that..
Nor can I quite figure out why, with a cash cow like fossil. Few want to capitalize on it while we can and make, the actual changes we should be. Thinking about tomorrow, because it is coming…..No matter how much cauterwualing , twisting like fish on hooks we do.
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The party behind the declaration of a national climate change emergency in 2019 has shuttered at least four manual and automatic atmospheric monitoring locations in Yukon, Northwest Territories, and Nunavut since 2012.
Trudeau's Liberals are closing weather monitoring stations in the North
Trudeau's Liberals are closing weather monitoring stations in the North
You're rambling.
Coasts - people have been warned for decades and keep buying, blame them.
Crops - discussed here: https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/climate-change.815596/post-8041761
Its already happening around the world.
We all can tread water as long as emission target deadlines allow.
We are still 6 years away from reaching 50% emission reduction and
25+ years from net zero. Climate denial won't likely undermine progress
in nation's climate policies.
Sheeple who have been following statements and remarks made by our
climate leaders Steven Guilbeault and Jonathan Wilkinson
should have little to worry about their climate future. By 2050 major
oil projects like those offshore Newfoundland will continue producing
oil only under the condition that zero emission is reached by then. No,
big oil is not the one who figured out people would actually believe
zero-emission can be achieved while drilling in deep water 500 km offshore.
Our government who granted approvals and support towards escalation
of oil development and exploration came up with that brilliant idea.
EPA Approved a Fuel Ingredient Even Though It Could Cause Cancer in Virtually Every Person Exposed Over a Lifetime
An EPA document shows that a new Chevron fuel ingredient has a lifetime cancer risk more than 1 million times higher than what the agency usually finds acceptable — even greater than another Chevron fuel’s sky-high risk disclosed earlier this year.
www.propublica.org
Don't buy this for a second. Probably another one of these 97% consensus surveys that are worthless.5% of Canadians are 'dismissive' like you.
That's a tiny minority of science deniers.
You're the denier because you choose to ignore any climate science that existed prior to temperature 'records' being kept.
Below is the assurance from our government that the latest major
deep water oil project approved will reach net zero emission. This
should come as relief to climate sheeple. Hope they will come to
realize any fear of catastrophic climate future is misplaced. Just
be worry-free and rest assured that zero-emission will eventually
be achieved while driving your gas guzzlers.
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April 6, 2022 — Ottawa — Impact Assessment Agency of Canada
Now more than ever, Canadians expect the Government of Canada to take action and promote innovative measures to combat climate change. We know that we can build a Canadian energy sector that is world-leading on environmental measures for today, and innovating for our clean future. Today, we have taken an important step in that direction................................................................................................
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the proposed Bay du Nord Development Project is not likely to cause significant adverse environmental effects when mitigation measures are taken into account. The project is therefore allowed to proceed with strict measures to protect the environment.
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"The federal government concurs with the recommendation of the Impact Assessment Agency of Canada. As a result, the Bay du Nord Development Project may proceed, subject to some of the strongest environmental conditions ever, including the historic requirement for an oil and gas project to reach net-zero emissions by 2050. The project has undergone a robust federal environmental assessment and scrutiny through every part of Canada's legislated review process. As the demand for oil and gas falls throughout the coming decades, it will be more important than ever that Canadian projects are running at the best-in-class, low-emissions performance to play a competitive role."
— The Honourable Steven Guilbeault, Minister of Environment and Climate Change
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www.canada.ca
deep water oil project approved will reach net zero emission. This
should come as relief to climate sheeple. Hope they will come to
realize any fear of catastrophic climate future is misplaced. Just
be worry-free and rest assured that zero-emission will eventually
be achieved while driving your gas guzzlers.
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April 6, 2022 — Ottawa — Impact Assessment Agency of Canada
Now more than ever, Canadians expect the Government of Canada to take action and promote innovative measures to combat climate change. We know that we can build a Canadian energy sector that is world-leading on environmental measures for today, and innovating for our clean future. Today, we have taken an important step in that direction................................................................................................
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the proposed Bay du Nord Development Project is not likely to cause significant adverse environmental effects when mitigation measures are taken into account. The project is therefore allowed to proceed with strict measures to protect the environment.
...........................................................................................................
"The federal government concurs with the recommendation of the Impact Assessment Agency of Canada. As a result, the Bay du Nord Development Project may proceed, subject to some of the strongest environmental conditions ever, including the historic requirement for an oil and gas project to reach net-zero emissions by 2050. The project has undergone a robust federal environmental assessment and scrutiny through every part of Canada's legislated review process. As the demand for oil and gas falls throughout the coming decades, it will be more important than ever that Canadian projects are running at the best-in-class, low-emissions performance to play a competitive role."
— The Honourable Steven Guilbeault, Minister of Environment and Climate Change
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Government Accepts Agency's Recommendation on Bay du Nord Development Project, Subject to the Strongest Environmental GHG Condition Ever - Canada.ca
Now more than ever, Canadians expect the Government of Canada to take action and promote innovative measures to combat climate change. We know that we can build a Canadian energy sector that is world-leading on environmental measures for today, and innovating for our clean future. Today, we have...
Climate deniers who merely question the science of climate change would
not likely be the ones who control where climate change is going. The people
climate sheeple would have more to worry about are climate lunatics who
challenge the policies of our climate leaders.
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www.reuters.com
montrealgazette.com
not likely be the ones who control where climate change is going. The people
climate sheeple would have more to worry about are climate lunatics who
challenge the policies of our climate leaders.
Environmental groups sue Canada over Bay du Nord oil project approval
Environmental groups are suing the Canadian government in a bid to overturn its approval of Equinor ASA's huge Bay du Nord offshore oil project, Sierra Club Canada, one of the plaintiffs, announced on Wednesday.
www.reuters.com
Environment minister sued by group he co-founded following Bay du Nord approval
Équiterre, co-founded by Steven Guilbeault in 1993, and the Sierra Club Canada are suing on the grounds that the oil project's approval "runs counter to Canada's international obligations."
montrealgazette.com
I know you don't buy this.
Just like you won't accept the science, won't accept temp, sea temp, ocean levels or extreme weather events.
Just like you won't accept anything that doesn't agree with your confirmation bias.
That just makes it clearer you're part of a tiny, tiny minority of people with extremist views.
You're talking about the 70's and earlier, right?
Revealed: Exxon made ‘breathtakingly’ accurate climate predictions in 1970s and 80s
This article is more than 6 months old
Oil company drove some of the leading science of the era only to publicly dismiss global heating
Or earlier?
How 19th-Century Scientists Predicted Global Warming - JSTOR Daily
Today’s headlines make climate change seem like a recent discovery. But Eunice Newton Foote and others have been piecing it together for centuries.
daily.jstor.org
Bay du Nord.
off the east coast where there is traditional support for the Liberals…”Nuff said”
off the east coast where there is traditional support for the Liberals…”Nuff said”
Yeah, like we can prevent it. Might as well combat the Sun rising in the East.
We cannot prevent it but fools, which means most of the climate sheeple,
are happy to buy into their leaders' climate lies. That makes climate policies
like setting zero emission targets for oil and gas production worthwhile.
Denial is more than just a river in Egypt. And the reality here is that it's people like you who want to pretend this is a partisan issue for some reason are going to sit back and watch things get worse.
So, just so we're all on the same page, yes you are right, we cannot live without fossil fuels right now. That's why there are calls for RENEWABLE energy source RIGHT NOW! Do you get that? Do you understand that this type of change takes time. Nobody, and I MEAN NOBODY is demanding we stop using all fossil fuels as of right this second. Well, nobody competent. But keep trumping up your bizarre conspiracy theories and talk about virtue signalling or whatever other bullshit you want to throw out.
So, I expect you to bloviate about lefties this and radical ideas that, but really, nobody here cares.
