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Not really. It is you ateempting to defclect from the overwhwlming consnus among real scientists. It is the same level of ostrich like behavious on the part of you and your fellow deniers and obfuscators.

consensus is appeal to numbers logical fallacy


The most highly cited paper supposedly found 97 per cent of published scientific studies support man-made global warming. But in addition to poor survey methodology, that tabulation is often misrepresented. Most papers (66 per cent) actually took no position. Of the remaining 34 per cent, 33 per cent supported at least a weak human contribution to global warming. So divide 33 by 34 and you get 97 per cent, but this is unremarkable since the 33 per cent includes many papers that critique key elements of the IPCC position.
 

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Your news paper clippings are just spam dude.

If the debate is what should be done about climate change and how soon should those actions be, then there is a discussion to be had.

But if you deny there is climate change in the first place, then there is nothing to talk about because you denying science is not a discussion.

another one who is brainwashed by TV propaganda


during the


crying "denying climate change " is a propaganda slogan used to shut down debate




newspaper clippings are archived by newspapers all over the U.S and canada they are available for anyone to read them

the earth's climate is NOT static can you point to anytime on earth's history where the climate was stable?


what is the best average temperature for earth?
 

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pot meets kettle

claiming i am in a cult is you projecting climate alarmists like yourself fit the definition of cults and cult members

i and other members here post multiple evidence showing that climate alarmism is based on fear mongering and brainwashing and censorship of those who don't buy into the climate religion. instead of looking at the facts you instead dismiss them respond with more propaganda and insults claiming they are all science deniers and accusations of shills for the fossil fuel industry(while refusing to stop using gas and other fossil products).

you are not interested in dialog and debate all you do is post propaganda here
That totally sounds like the reply of someone in a cult.

Take the post about Greta, you posted about a tweet she made when she was 15 as if it somehow was a) a prediction, b) a statement by a scientist and refused to debate the point further when I pointed out where it came from and what the article says. That's the move of someone who won't respond and debate and instead 'dismisses' all contrary evidence to their faith.

If you want to prove you're not in a cult feel free to see if we can have an actual debate about the science and the evidence.
Lets start with

Evidence - do you deny that the global temperature has risen by about 1.2ºC, as predicted by scientists, since the start of the industrial revolution?
Science - do you or do you not believe that the greenhouse effect exists and can affect the climate?

If you reply with yet another cut and paste reply it'll be confirmation that you can't argue the subject at all.
Fair?
 

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no
acceptable exposure limit (PEL) of 5,000 ppm over an eight-hour period is independent of source/use of co2

a greenhouse has plants which absorb C02 so you can frolic all you want in a greenhouse and co2 will not exceed 1000 ppm by a whole lot

a submarine will have scrubbers & o2 generators to ensure Co2 does not exceed 5,000 ppm & O2 levels do not drop below 19.5% & make the sailors lightheaded while they are doing nuclear missile drills
Not sure where you got your information from, but long exposure to 2,000 CO2 ppm levels leads to headache, dizziness, difficulty breathing.
Exposure exceeding 2,000 ppm most people have to stop working, and ability to even think is severely reduced.
Around 5,000 ppm body’s functions will be seriously disrupted, causing loss of consciousness and confusion.

There is absolutely no way sailors could function being on a submarine for even 1 day when the CO2 levels are 5,000 ppm

Link: https://www.heimantech.com/news/index.php?type=detail&id=75

 
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That totally sounds like the reply of someone in a cult.

Take the post about Greta, you posted about a tweet she made when she was 15 as if it somehow was a) a prediction, b) a statement by a scientist and refused to debate the point further when I pointed out where it came from and what the article says. That's the move of someone who won't respond and debate and instead 'dismisses' all contrary evidence to their faith.

If you want to prove you're not in a cult feel free to see if we can have an actual debate about the science and the evidence.
Lets start with

Evidence - do you deny that the global temperature has risen by about 1.2ºC, as predicted by scientists, since the start of the industrial revolution?
Science - do you or do you not believe that the greenhouse effect exists and can affect the climate?

If you reply with yet another cut and paste reply it'll be confirmation that you can't argue the subject at all.
Fair?

more projecting and more insults from Franky when he cannot refute those who disagree with his climate alarmist ideology

the global temps rise and falls for thousands of years the temps are NOT static
 

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I did not say they weren't newspaper headlines. But headlines are useless. Reading headlines and then thinking you know the info in the article is silliness.

the clippings have the articles that are highlighted
 

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more projecting and more insults from Franky when he cannot refute those who disagree with his climate alarmist ideology

the global temps rise and falls for thousands of years the temps are NOT static
Has the temperature ever risen 1.2ºC in about 50-75 years before?
If so, what was the cause?

How do you explain the rise in temperature?
Why do you think it won't keep going up, as predicted?

Can you discuss the issue honestly?
 

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Current CO2 levels are 420ppm: https://www.co2.earth/daily-co2

Over 1 year its only gone up by 2.23ppm (or 0.53%)
At current rate CO2 levels should only rise by 100 to 200 ppm at the most over the next 50 years.

But lets be conservative and say it goes up to 700ppm.
Since we only have 45 years of oil left there's no way the air could ever become so unhealthy that we couldnt breathe anymore.

And there's no way Greenland or the poles are gonna melt because CO2 went up 200 to 300 ppm.
Get a fucking brain people. Stop listening to the fear-mongerers and start thinking for yourself

 

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Has the temperature ever risen 1.2ºC in about 50-75 years before?
If so, what was the cause?

How do you explain the rise in temperature?
Why do you think it won't keep going up, as predicted?

Can you discuss the issue honestly?

the earth is MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD according to mainstream scientists

people started recording temperatures in the last 100-200 years

read a book on earth science and related fields

 
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Not sure where you got your information from, but long exposure to 2,000 CO2 ppm levels leads to headache, dizziness, difficulty breathing.
Exposure exceeding 2,000 ppm most people have to stop working, and ability to even think is severely reduced.
Around 5,000 ppm body’s functions will be seriously disrupted, causing loss of consciousness and confusion.

There is absolutely no way sailors could function being on a submarine for even 1 day when the CO2 levels are 5,000 ppm

Link: https://www.heimantech.com/news/index.php?type=detail&id=75

co2 levels in submarines - Google Search

5000- 7000 ppm

AIR CONTAMINANTS IN SUBMARINE AIR
The main contaminant of submarine air is CO2. In ordinary buildings 1000 ppm is usually considered as a maximum concentration. This value is not based on health effects but on the rate of ventilation. In submarines, higher CO2 concentrations are permitted, usually 5000- 7000 ppm.
"Around 5,000 ppm body’s functions will be seriously disrupted, causing loss of consciousness and confusion."

only if the CO2 has displaced significant amounts of O2
no problem hanging out in a greenhouse
 
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do not tell me you did not immediately think 2020 must be hotter than 2017 when you saw the image's
subliminal advertising is nothing new. this was intentional

the evil conspiracy. ... you can blame Michael Mann for that
polar bears, hockey sticks, acidification of the oceans, barrier reef bleaching , sea level rise, more hurricanes, tornados & more wildfires
all climate alarmism fabrications which have been proven false
The climate alarmists will promote any misleading story so long as it scares the public. Absolutly despicable behavior
if you want to call it the evil conspiracy., that is your choice, but do not think for a second, this intentional misleading of the publics is not occurring
there is nothing adorable about it.
what is wrong with you ??

you post laugh emojis valcazar, rather than respond with factual information or a rational counter argument
cowardly

The climate alarmists are so wacked out & so uncompromising they epoxy glued their hands to the roadway using industrial epoxy
(1) Climate activists in Germany are likely going to require amputation after using concrete and industrial epoxy to glue their hands to the road. : facepalm (reddit.com)

There is no action these lunatics will not undertake to "fight" climate change , including intentionally misleading of the public via subliminal images

if you want to call it the evil conspiracy, that is your choice,
or perhaps multiple groups of glue guys/ gals across Europe are completely self motivated to go to such extremes ??
there is nothing adorable about it.
there is nothing funny about it.
nothing but really bad shit will come of this
what is wrong with you ??
 
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Eco-protester who sabotaged George Osborne's wedding is a hypocrite ex- librarian who took trip to Thailand months after declaring a 'climate emergency' in Somerset




An eco-protester who targeted George Osborne at his wedding can today be revealed as a former librarian and town councillor – who holidayed in Thailand a few months after declaring a ‘climate emergency’ in Somerset.

Shelagh Day, 62, is a well-known campaigner in Bruton, Somerset, where she and Mr Osborne are both residents.

Last weekend, she caused uproar after showering the former Chancellor and his new wife Thea Rogers with orange confetti as they left St Mary’s Church following their nuptials.


The stunt, in front of the Press, was a copycat version of Just Stop Oil’s use of orange paint and powder to disrupt sports events. The protest group initially appeared to claim responsibility for it, but backtracked after it was slammed by the public and condemned by both Tory and Labour MPs.

The Mail on Sunday tracked Ms Day, a divorcee, to her modest terrace home in Bruton on Wednesday. She answered the door and claimed: ‘It wasn’t me.’


But locals – including other town councillors – all identified her as the Osborne wedding protester, who evaded security to chuck confetti over the newlyweds.

Residents said Ms Day was linked to One Planet Bruton, an environmental group that in 2019 successfully campaigned for Bruton Town Council to declare the town was in a ‘climate emergency’.

Six months after the declaration, Ms Day went on a three-week holiday to Thailand, according to a travel blog written by one of her friends.

It is likely she made the 10,000-mile round-trip by aeroplane. If so, any such flight would have generated 3.3 tons of carbon emissions – equivalent to driving 18,500 miles in a typical petrol car. Ms Day also owns a small petrol hatchback.

Protester who targeted Osborne's wedding jetted off to Thailand after declaring a climate emergency | Daily Mail Online
 

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the earth is MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD according to mainstream scientists

people started recording temperatures in the last 100-200 years

read a book on earth science and related fields

Now you don't believe in the entire field of paleoclimatology?
Yet you think you are informed enough to claim either you know more than NASA or that you think NASA is lying to everyone in the world?
 
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