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Since the OPS been nothing but honest, I trust he'll also shown her this thread he posted on a prostitution site seeking validation of how great he thinks he is like she's seen all of his others?

If not he should-I bet she'll never be a bother anymore.

He should show all the options he's going to follow up on as well to keep them from bringing up the m word.
 

John Wick

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Like the natural order of things, there will always be resentment towards women who have been duplicitous and calculating towards men.

Likewise, there will always be resentment towards men from women who have been cheated on, lied to and even been (despicably) beaten.

A good woman is just as hard to find as a good man. It's a two way street.

When a woman uses sex as a 'negotiating tactic', she sinks to the lowest level of reprehensible and despicable. The 'vagina' is not in charge of things.

If a man is dumb and whipped enough to fall for it and perpetuate it (for himself and others), then he deserves what he gets. To eat his own shit.

When a woman plays that card, the man must walk away. Always.
You should have this discussion with Stefania. Word of advice - wear a cup. ;)
 

xmontrealer

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Seriously. There is always one isn’t there. LOL


She wasted those years because she wanted something more then he was willing to give.

That is on her. He was upfront. I agree with him.

She shouldn’t have wasted 3 years of her life hoping for something that wasn’t going to happen.

How is that “spoken from a woman’s point of view.?” That is everyone’s point of view In this thread, is it not???
I took your "She shouldn't have wasted three years of her life" post as a general female attitude towards male\female relationships, in that you and most other women feel the relationship she and Don shared was a waste of her time, no matter it's high quality and mutual enjoyment for the time it lasted, if he wasn't at some point going to marry her. If that's not your personal attitude towards mature male/female relationships I apologize. I do however think it still is a general female point of view.

Imho very few males, if the tables were turned, would pressure a women to legally formalize the status of their relationship in the situation described in the original post. Three years of living the good life with no end in sight, and with a woman who's company he obviously enjoys! Would he say "Marriage or nothing?". I think not.

On the other hand, "A man chases a woman until she catches him!". In truth after my first marriage failed I had no intention of ever remarrying. I was a more or less happy bachelor for 10 years after that, and was honest with every woman I dated, stating I would not remarry. Then, by total surprise to me, I met a woman with whom I fell in love, and changed my mind. So maybe the woman in the original post wasted the second and third years, but possibly the first year was justifiable in that maybe he would change his mind if he happened to fall in love with her?

I'm pretty old so maybe things are different today in the civilian world, but again imho I believe many more females than men are looking for a legal commitment in a romantic relationship, for financial and other ongoing security issues. Also their families and friends often apply pressure, with words to the effect "When is he gonna make you an honest woman?". I still remember one of my first girlfriends, from way back when, who told me that her mother said "You know he won't buy the cow if he can get the milk free!" Talk about Old School...

More currently I have also noticed in passing conversations with younger parents of marriageable age girls that even today they continuously assess the marriage potential, positive and negative, of just about every guy their daughters date, and quite early in the relationship start encouraging those matches that they consider to be positive. Usually the young guys involved are totally unaware of this "behind the scenes" pressure and planning, whether it be solely in the minds of the parents, or also in the minds of the young women involved themselves. (I do notice that many women are getting married later in life these days, which is a good thing, as maybe they're making better and more mature choices.)

One major exception I have noticed, as I have several quite independently wealthy female relatives, and know their similarly wealthy female friends, is that they often did not seem to be in any great rush to legally tie themselves to the men in their romantic lives...
 
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I took your "She shouldn't have wasted three years of her life" post as a general female attitude towards male\female relationships, in that you and most other women feel the relationship she and Don shared was a waste of her time, no matter it's high quality and mutual enjoyment for the time it lasted, if he wasn't at some point going to marry her. If that's not your personal attitude towards mature male/female relationships I apologize. I do however think it still is a general female point of view.

Imho very few males, if the tables were turned, would pressure a women to legally formalize the status of their relationship in the situation described in the original post. Three years of living the good life with no end in sight, and with a woman who's company he obviously enjoys! Would he say "Marriage or nothing?". I think not.

On the other hand, "A man chases a woman until she catches him!". In truth after my first marriage failed I had no intention of ever remarrying. I was a more or less happy bachelor for 10 years after that, and was honest with every woman I dated, stating I would not remarry. Then, by total surprise to me, I met a woman with whom I fell in love, and changed my mind. So maybe the woman in the original post wasted the second and third years, but possibly the first year was justifiable in that maybe he would change his mind if he happened to fall in love with her?

I'm pretty old so maybe things are different today in the civilian world, but again imho I believe many more females than men are looking for a legal commitment in a romantic relationship, for financial and other ongoing security issues. Also their families and friends often apply pressure, with words to the effect "When is he gonna make you an honest woman?". I still remember one of my first girlfriends, from way back when, who told me that her mother said "You know he won't buy the cow if he can get the milk free!" Talk about Old School...

More currently I have also noticed in passing conversations with younger parents of marriageable age girls that even today they continuously assess the marriage potential, positive and negative, of just about every guy their daughters date, and quite early in the relationship start encouraging those matches that they consider to be positive. Usually the young guys involved are totally unaware of this "behind the scenes" pressure and planning, whether it be solely in the minds of the parents, or also in the minds of the young women involved themselves. (I do notice that many women are getting married later in life these days, which is a good thing, as maybe they're making better and more mature choices.)

One major exception I have noticed, as I have several quite independently wealthy female relatives, and know their similarly wealthy female friends, is that they often did not seem to be in any great rush to legally tie themselves to the men in their romantic lives...
It's like when we used to say that women went to college to get their Mr.S degree.
 

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She shouldn’t have wasted 3 years of her life.
I know it' just a story, but it seems to me she had it pretty damned good for those 3 years. Beats running the fry machine @ McDonalds...
 
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I think that since he has also been transparent about his commitment desires then I do not understand how some individuals would decide that they can change a person's viewpoint

He told her from the beginning how he felt regarding the status of a relationship and whether a next step is feasible or not. I believe that once a female is told that marriage is off the table she should leave if the relationship isn't ideal or worth maintaining anymore.

Plenty of women are fine with being in a common relationship only, is it bad to say that generally within the first year of dating one can gauge whether things are meant to last or not.

That is just my thought process
 

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There was a dude last year that got fucked by the courts and end up paying alimony to a long time fuck Buddy. You might want to keep these types of relationships to less than a year moving forward.
 

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Well each to their choice. Stick with it or move on to a guaranteead situation that you know is 100% better
 

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I know it' just a story, but it seems to me she had it pretty damned good for those 3 years. Beats running the fry machine @ McDonalds...
Except if she truly wanted marriage, if that was the goal, then it is a waste. To Her.

If it was just a fun ride and then she decided after she wanted to land him, then I get your point.

Plus - she could still be making them fries between his gifts, trips and dinners.

But it is a story so who cares.
 

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I think that since he has also been transparent about his commitment desires then I do not understand how some individuals would decide that they can change a person's viewpoint
People do change their viewpoints all the time, though.
So some people figure they will get lucky.
I don't think it is particularly smart, but it isn't crazy.
 

Don Draper

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But it is a story so who cares.

This is very true.

When you hear of something happenning to someone you are not associated with,
you don't know and will never meet then, of course, "it's just a story".

It's a natural thought process.
 

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This is very true.

When you hear of something happenning to someone you are not associated with,
you don't know and will never meet then, of course, "it's just a story".

It's a natural thought process.
I was just commenting on what was already written in the thread. Don't take it personally. Was not meant that way.
 
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Don Draper

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I was just commenting on what was already written in the thread. Don't take it personally. Was not meant that way.
Indeed, Jenesis.

That's my point. It's not personal at all.
 
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