civil forfeiture
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There has been great discontent about the application of this law in Philadelphia, including an ongoing lawsuit.
It isn't on a whim. It may be an overreach in this instance, I believe it is, but on a whim it is not.
The Canadian government has had to warn its citizens not to carry cash to the USA because the USA does not presume innocence but guilt when it comes to money. Over $2.5 billion has been confiscated from Canadians traveling to the USA funding the police who grab it.
If you are bringing cash to the land of the free, you will find that saying really means they are FREE to seize all your money under the pretense you are engaged in drugs with no evidence or other charges. It costs more money in legal fees to try to get it back so it is a boom business for unethical lawyers to such an extent that only one in six people ever try to get their money back and the cops just pocket it. That’s right. Money confiscated is usually allowed to be kept by the department who confiscated it. This is strangely working its way into funding police and pensions. This is identical to the very issue that resulted in the final collapse of Rome when the armies began to sack cities to pay for their pensions. We are at that level now with respect to seizing whatever they want knowing you will have to spend more in legal fees to assert your rights that do not really exist.
Those trying to flee tyranny elsewhere can not bring money with them for the police get to take it on this end. This pretend war on terrorism is really a wholesale war against the people. It serves as the justification to seize whatever they desire ever since 9/11 as reported by the Washington Post.
If you are bringing cash to the land of the free, you will find that saying really means they are FREE to seize all your money under the pretense you are engaged in drugs with no evidence or other charges. It costs more money in legal fees to try to get it back so it is a boom business for unethical lawyers to such an extent that only one in six people ever try to get their money back and the cops just pocket it. That’s right. Money confiscated is usually allowed to be kept by the department who confiscated it. This is strangely working its way into funding police and pensions. This is identical to the very issue that resulted in the final collapse of Rome when the armies began to sack cities to pay for their pensions. We are at that level now with respect to seizing whatever they want knowing you will have to spend more in legal fees to assert your rights that do not really exist.
Those trying to flee tyranny elsewhere can not bring money with them for the police get to take it on this end. This pretend war on terrorism is really a wholesale war against the people. It serves as the justification to seize whatever they desire ever since 9/11 as reported by the Washington Post.
That is 16 minutes of my life Ill never........................................ feel bad about spending. Interesting clip.
Greatest country in the world but there's a lot of fucked up shit going down there.
thumper18474
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Makes a person wonder if this might be a what LE will do after C36 is passed.
stake out an incall bust in on the lady seize the cash and use the excuse that ..well ..we think you were doing something illegal.
so we're seizing this cash you have ....and then its buhbye. ..
stake out an incall bust in on the lady seize the cash and use the excuse that ..well ..we think you were doing something illegal.
so we're seizing this cash you have ....and then its buhbye. ..
If you are going to make the analogy at least know the facts:
For instance the in the case of the lead plaintiffs against the City of Philadelphia: Christos and Markela Sourovelis you hear about how their son was arrested for selling $40 of heroin, however, you don't typically hear the following: The Philadelphia Police Department executed a search warrant, they identify themselves as police there are uniformed officers and marked vehicles. They knocked on the door. Markela Sourovelis after being directed to restrain her pit bull, refuses to. Eventually she restrains the pit bull, but during this time her son, who’s in the house, runs up the stairs to flush his drugs down the toilet. Markela Sourovelis, who could have been arrested for obstructing justice, is not, however, an officer is able to reach his hand down the toilet—which was running—and extract the heroin.
Now do I like civil forfeiture as it is practiced in Philadelphia - No. Can post trial criminal forfeiture serve a useful purpose - yes.
thumper18474
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I wasnt talking about the shit in Philly
I was referring to the shit going on IN CANADA....
BC in particular...and no doubt with a little more research I'm sure it going on here in Ontario
Better??
I was referring to the shit going on IN CANADA....
BC in particular...and no doubt with a little more research I'm sure it going on here in Ontario
Better??
Fine, Sorry if I sounded like I was in your face. One of the problems of the Internet.
It was well done (as are most of the issue segments on his show), he should have spent more time on the justification - they are trying to hit drig dealers....
The justifications are irrelevant. They are taking property and money from innocent people who are not even charged with any crimes. It doesn't matter if it is all part of the war on drugs, the war on terror, or the war on abstract nouns. It is fucking wrong as wrong can be. Period.
If someone does sue, can they not include costs of the action on a solicitor-and-his-own-client basis? If successful, then the State should pay, no?
Here is a nice one! Un**fucking**believable~~ two weeks suspension!!! :frusty:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/violent-police-home-invasion-leads-090000753.html
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/violent-police-home-invasion-leads-090000753.html
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