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CIA Have Detected Putin's Direct Hacking into USA Elections

mandrill

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You're brighter than that.

I thought my point was pretty obvious.

As to Putin getting elected, there was an article in the Toronto Star today that said that they did a survey in Russia asking Russians who they thought was the greatest HUMAN whoever lived on the PLANET was or is.

THE PLANET.

34 percent of Russians said Vladimir Putin.

Do you really think he didn't win the election or that he won't win the next one? (That's a rhetorical question by the way.)

If there's any solace in that poll, it's that 38 percent of Russians think Uncle Joe Stalin was the greatest human that ever lived, so it shows you that your average Russian is just as dumb as your average American (at least those who voted for Trump.)
It's difficult not to be loved when you control every media outlet in your country. And even easier in a nation which is invested in the cult of personality the way Russia is. Everything in Russian history is geared to worshipping the leader - be it the Holy Chosen One of God the Czar, the Fearless Comrade Leader Stalin who is the undeniable instrument of the inevitable historical dialectic, or the Very Heart and Soul of Mother Russia, VVP.

As for the rest of your post, I guess I'm really not "brighter than that". Because I don't get your drift.
 

Anbarandy

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That so called hyperbole was carried out in poor taste. It was not funny when you spur on one of the biggest enemies of the country to invade your nation electronically. It is a huge cause for concern, that the President still is living in denial. He even stated to his supporters that he knows more than the FBI and CIA. Off course he had Roger Stone at his side. The rest is history.
Many would label it as treason.
 

Anbarandy

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It's difficult not to be loved when you control every media outlet in your country. And even easier in a nation which is invested in the cult of personality the way Russia is. Everything in Russian history is geared to worshipping the leader - be it the Holy Chosen One of God the Czar, the Fearless Comrade Leader Stalin who is the undeniable instrument of the inevitable historical dialectic, or the Very Heart and Soul of Mother Russia, VVP.

As for the rest of your post, I guess I'm really not "brighter than that". Because I don't get your drift.
Another clue to his popularity: Follow the trail of dead Russians
 

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Its too bad the DNC did so much election fraud with their busing people around to make multiple votes, deceased voters and millions of unregistered illegal voters or else they could actually start an investigation.

I say they start with the biggest states first to see if the russians managed to hack the election. When California passed a law just months before the election that allows anyone to hand in anyones ballot, the Russians may have used that as a hacking opportunity. Best to start the investigation there first.
 

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Many would label it as treason.
And as he is now the President they would all be quite wrong in that opinion. Feel free to have it. But it isn't worth anything.
 

Butler1000

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That so called hyperbole was carried out in poor taste. It was not funny when you spur on one of the biggest enemies of the country to invade your nation electronically. It is a huge cause for concern, that the President still is living in denial. He even stated to his supporters that he knows more than the FBI and CIA. Off course he had Roger Stone at his side. The rest is history.
On one level it was. But I think there was a certain amount of comeuppance in those leaks. People are hungry to see the truth. So much so they will accept it from any source.

That's how bad it is. How desperate that are for some truth. And how low trust is in the gov't and MsM at the moment.

Blame them as much as Russia.
 

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On one level it was. But I think there was a certain amount of comeuppance in those leaks. People are hungry to see the truth. So much so they will accept it from any source.

That's how bad it is. How desperate that are for some truth. And how low trust is in the gov't and MsM at the moment.

Blame them as much as Russia.
When will the Trump campaign release all their internal emails so people can see the truth?
 

Anbarandy

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When will the Trump campaign release all their internal emails so people can see the truth?
And his tax returns as he promised many a month ago during his campaign.

And when will he back up his claim that Obama wiretapped him at Trump Tower, or when he claimed Obama was not born in America, or when claimed Obama colluded and obstructed justice, or when he claimed there were 3million illegal votes for Hillary, or when the election was rigged for the Democrats ......
 

Butler1000

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When will the Trump campaign release all their internal emails so people can see the truth?
When will Hillary give up the 33,000 emails she his from the FBI?

And what exactly do you expect to find in Trump emails? I thought it was the RNC that was supposedly hacked? And they weren't Trump fans either were they?

So why don't you explain why internal RNC emails no doubt dissing and worrying over Trump would hurt his chances when he ran on that very thing. And won.
 

Butler1000

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And his tax returns as he promised many a month ago during his campaign.

And when will he back up his claim that Obama wiretapped him at Trump Tower, or when he claimed Obama was not born in America, or when claimed Obama colluded and obstructed justice, or when he claimed there were 3million illegal votes for Hillary, or when the election was rigged for the Democrats ......
That's so 2016. Follow your little red strings in your conspiracy room back to 2017 ok?
 

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When will Hillary give up the 33,000 emails she his from the FBI?

And what exactly do you expect to find in Trump emails? I thought it was the RNC that was supposedly hacked? And they weren't Trump fans either were they?

So why don't you explain why internal RNC emails no doubt dissing and worrying over Trump would hurt his chances when he ran on that very thing. And won.
She's been exonerated, Trump has not.

My point though is if you saw internal RNC emails I'm willing to bet they will show a corrupt, dirty, and cynical political machine that intentionally lied and misled.
 

Butler1000

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She's been exonerated, Trump has not.

My point though is if you saw internal RNC emails I'm willing to bet they will show a corrupt, dirty, and cynical political machine that intentionally lied and misled.
Oh I agree. The GoP is just as bad. I've been saying all along I would love to see both parties implode.

But at least they ran a legit primary. Democracy worked there. In the case of the DNC they rigged their own primary and may actually get a 200 million class action lawsuit against them certified. The decision is in the pipe now.

Clinton is as much an autocrat judging from her actions during the campaign. So I don't exonerate her from those actions.
 

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Oh I agree. The GoP is just as bad. I've been saying all along I would love to see both parties implode.

But at least they ran a legit primary. Democracy worked there. In the case of the DNC they rigged their own primary and may actually get a 200 million class action lawsuit against them certified. The decision is in the pipe now.

Clinton is as much an autocrat judging from her actions during the campaign. So I don't exonerate her from those actions.
I don't think the GOP ran a legit primary. They had two foreign agents working on the Trump campaign and the backing of a foreign intelligence agency. The manipulation became very obvious during the general Campaign but there's no reason to think it began only after the primary.

I think it was all rigged by Manafort and his nefarious contacts in Russia.
 

Butler1000

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I don't think the GOP ran a legit primary. They had two foreign agents working on the Trump campaign and the backing of a foreign intelligence agency. The manipulation became very obvious during the general Campaign but there's no reason to think it began only after the primary.

I think it was all rigged by Manafort and his nefarious contacts in Russia.
Sure. Because it was all positive and everything went the Trump campaign's way. All smooth sailing there!

At least you expressed this little doozy as an opinion. Credit for that.

One day you will be able to just admit you were wrong as to who would win the election.
 

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On one level it was. But I think there was a certain amount of comeuppance in those leaks. People are hungry to see the truth. So much so they will accept it from any source.

That's how bad it is. How desperate that are for some truth. And how low trust is in the gov't and MsM at the moment.

Blame them as much as Russia.
If Trump refuses to release his tax returns, what truth is going to be made public from Trump's perspective?
 

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Not a Trump fan, but it would be so sweeeeeet if indeed Russia did hack the US elections, it would be sweet sweet payback to all the elections the US has hacked in Asia, Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean over the last 70 years.
 

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Not a Trump fan, but it would be so sweeeeeet if indeed Russia did hack the US elections, it would be sweet sweet payback to all the elections the US has hacked in Asia, Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean over the last 70 years.
You're on the wrong side.
 

Butler1000

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If Trump refuses to release his tax returns, what truth is going to be made public from Trump's perspective?
As the IRS has done a full audit and found it legit what else is there to see?

It's not the law to release them. And so what do you expect to find exactly?
 

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As the IRS has done a full audit and found it legit what else is there to see?

It's not the law to release them. And so what do you expect to find exactly?
I expect Trump needs to show he earned his money legitimately. IRS doesn't check that. They just check if you pay your taxes
 

mandrill

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I expect Trump needs to show he earned his money legitimately. IRS doesn't check that. They just check if you pay your taxes

And the IRS doesn't care if 90% of your investors are Russian expat mafiya friends of Vladdy.
 
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