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From the W.H.O " Virus isolation is not recommended as a routine diagnostic procedure"
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So you know that is not how viruses are typically identified but you've still spent a couple months fixated about on whether or not the virus was isolated?
 

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I hope the vaccine they're cooking up is worth its salt.
They're all rushed but there are so many in the pipeline that hopefully at least one won't have significant side effects. Even if it is only 50% effective and only lasts a year it will make a big impact.
 

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Meanwhile 1900 died yesterday in the US, mostly in states that ignore covid the way you want us to.
most deaths are from pre-existing conditions the CDC admtted this

i was talking about Ontario NOT the U.S

and read this they have problems with false positives

The state has suspended Boston-based COVID-19 testing lab Orig3n Laboratory after it produced nearly 400 false positive results.

 

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So you know that is not how viruses are typically identified but you've still spent a couple months fixated about on whether or not the virus was isolated?
the sars cov2 was never isolated nor purified they take samples from sick patients

and mixed them with genetic material from monkey kidney cells and fetal bovine serum and then claim toxicity
 

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Thanks for the insult. It shows you're struggling to keep up.

If you took the time to read the articles, they contradict your "freely" assertion.

The fact that they got on airplanes in the first place, when Trudeau told us in MARCH that wouldn’t happen, proves that I am right. Like always.

Please block me, or mute me, or whatever function on this site will stop you from reading and responding to my posts.

Thank you.
 

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The fact that they got on airplanes in the first place, when Trudeau told us in MARCH that wouldn’t happen, proves that I am right. Like always.
Do you think Canadian authorities are stationed at the boarding gates of every international airport? Canada gives their criteria to airlines as they have no authority in other countries. The airlines let people on.


Please block me, or mute me, or whatever function on this site will stop you from reading and responding to my posts.

Thank you.
Just like you don't understand how viruses work, you obviously don't understand how the ignore function works. If you don't want your silly thoughts read, try not posting them.
 

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Do you think Canadian authorities are stationed at the boarding gates of every international airport? Canada gives their criteria to airlines as they have no authority in other countries. The airlines let people on.



Just like you don't understand how viruses work, you obviously don't understand how the ignore function works. If you don't want your silly thoughts read, try not posting them.
Did you not hear the actual words that came out of Justin Trudeau’s mouth where he said that screening would take place in the country of origin (which doesn’t happen) and that nobody with symptoms would be allowed to board (which doesn’t happen) and that additional screening would be required at the arrival airports (which doesn’t happen) and that all people arriving in Canada will have to quarantine for 14 days (which doesn’t happen).

To answer your question, YES, Canadian authorities ARE stationed at gates in foreign airports and if you’d ever been out of your mother’s basement, you’d know that.
 

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Yes, viruses live in infected people. That's why they collect virus samples from infected people.

Glad you are starting to learn.

mixing samples with monkey kidney cells and fetal bovine serum contaminating samples from patients is not isolating nor purifying a virus

why are you leaving off the rest of my quote? how do you isolate samples by mixing it with other genetic material?
 

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"Hospitalizations remain stable with small declines in both ICU admissions and the number of patients on ventilators."


 

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Expect serious restrictions coming down the pipe!

Thanks to all the selfish folks who will not wear masks and go about life as if COVID doesn't exist.

 
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mixing samples with monkey kidney cells and fetal bovine serum contaminating samples from patients is not isolating nor purifying a virus.....

how do you isolate samples by mixing it with other genetic material?
I could be wrong but I believe that IS how you isolate a virus. You have to mix samples of different DNA, add different chemicals and repeatedly spin the sample in a centrifuge (this is why results take over 2 days). It separates the sample into layers with the RNA on top.

If your target (covid 19) is common within the mixed sample, you should be able to find the colonies.

I don't know anything about bovine DNA but DNA from kidney cells from monkeys should be very similar to humans.
 
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I could be wrong but I believe that IS how you isolate a virus. You have to mix samples of different DNA, add different chemicals and repeatedly spin the sample in a centrifuge (this is why results take over 2 days). It separates the sample into layers with the RNA on top.

If your target (covid 19) is common within the mixed sample, you should be able to find the colonies.


isolation involves the use of filtration.



Isolation of Viruses
Unlike bacteria, many of which can be grown on an artificial nutrient medium, viruses require a living host cell for replication. Infected host cells (eukaryotic or prokaryotic) can be cultured and grown, and then the growth medium can be harvested as a source of virus. Virions in the liquid medium can be separated from the host cells by either centrifugation or filtration. Filters can physically remove anything present in the solution that is larger than the virions; the viruses can then be collected in the filtrate (see Figure 1).

filtration was not used during the alleged isolation of the sars cov2 virus




According to everyday English, mixing a patient sample with animal cells is the opposite of isolating anything!

So let’s have a look at the researchers’ own “preliminary report” for more clues about the legitimacy of their claim of having “isolated the virus”. Below is a screenshot from the report. Note that “Vero cells” = kidney epithelial cells extracted from an African green monkey, and FBS = fetal bovine serum. Both are sources of genetic contamination.


Below is the disclaimer published by bioRxiv at the top of the preliminary report, which was apparently disregarded by Sunnybrook, the University of Toronto, etc. back in March when deciding to publicize the claim of having isolated the virus.







a paperon the isolation of SARS-CoV-2 at VIDRL (which describes inoculation of Vero/hSLAM cells which led to the isolation of SARS-CoV-2 in culture)“. Can you spot the oxymoron?

Below is a screenshot from the paper’s Supporting Information, 2.1–2.2.


And what are Vero/hSLAM cells? Below is a description provided by a supplier, Sigma Aldrich.


So the researchers at the Victorian Infectious Diseases Reference Laboratory performed the usual “monkey business” of mixing a patient sample with kidney cells from an African green monkey and fetal bovine serum (both are sources of genetic contamination), and antibiotics. They then attributed any toxic effects to “the virus” that they assumed was in the patient sample, but never actually looked for or found in the patient sample.



Sorry no filtration is used for the sars cov2 virus.
 

squeezer

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I could be wrong but I believe that IS how you isolate a virus. You have to mix samples of different DNA, add different chemicals and repeatedly spin the sample in a centrifuge (this is why results take over 2 days). It separates the sample into layers with the RNA on top.

If your target (covid 19) is common within the mixed sample, you should be able to find the colonies.

I don't know anything about bovine DNA but DNA from kidney cells from monkeys should be very similar to humans.
Oh no MissCroft, you've just made the greatest sin of all. Trying to reason with the unreasonable! ;)
 

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Oh no MissCroft, you've just made the greatest sin of all. Trying to reason with the unreasonable! ;)
the covid virus was not filtered
 
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