Canadians want Ottawa to ban use of tax havens, poll finds

[jcpro]

Be realistic. The carbon taxes are being implemented by all the nations except one or two. This will only help to speed up the process of eliminating fossil fuel oils in the future for a better environment for our children in the not too distant futures. They one day will not have to worry about the carbon tax or the disgusting CO emissions.
I would agree that Khadr's father and mother are terrorists. But when the 15 year old son is forced to also become a child soldier and has no other option then obviously, the court decides, as in this case.

The silliest post of the month.

 

[JohnLarue]

Then you are happy with the divide between rich and poor as it is now and are happy to see it increase?
Perhaps you'd be happier in the US, where the taxes on the rich are going down even more.
Feel free to tell us exactly what your ideal GINI coeffecienct rating is.

Punishing people for success is not a good plan
It will damage the economy & hurt us all
It is not the governments job to fix inequality issues and certainly not via punitive taxation which punishes success

If you had a clue you would know that focus should be to improve the opportunities / education for the poor rather than punish our most innovative successful citizens who create thousands of jobs
the Robin hood approach is never going to work as there has been poor people since money was invented and there will continue to be poor people despite your coefficient

Education (non focused education) in particular is going to drive your GINI number as the changes which will occur in the workforce are going to slaughter a whole generation of ill prepared graduates

 

[Frankfooter]

Punishing people for success is not a good plan
It will damage the economy & hurt us all
It is not the governments job to fix inequality issues and certainly not via punitive taxation which punishes success

If you had a clue you would know that focus should be to improve the opportunities / education for the poor rather than punish our most innovative successful citizens who create thousands of jobs
the Robin hood approach is never going to work as there has been poor people since money was invented and there will continue to be poor people despite your coefficient

Education (non focused education) in particular is going to drive your GINI number as the changes which will occur in the workforce are going to slaughter a whole generation of ill prepared graduates

I'm just asking you, since you keep telling us the rich are 'paying their fair share' whether you think therefore that the divide between rich and poor right now is where it should be, should be bigger or should be less. Because those progressive rates change continually, do you think they are perfect right now here, or are they perfect with the Trump changes in the US?

 

[Frankfooter]

An idea I want to throw out here.

If a member posts a reply that consists of NOTHING but comments about another member,... that post should be deleted and a running count of the poster,...made by the mods.

Sure would clean up a lot of threads.

But of coarse that would not stop the losers from later editing their useless posts to cover up the fact

Weren't you a charter member of the anti-snitch campaign?
And now you want to be a snitch?

 

[FAST]

So what do you all think,... should the mods ban posts that are simply personal in nature,... and have absolutely NOTHING to do with the thread,... or let the childish behaviour continue,... ???

When one of the 1st two words in a post is,... you,... what usually follows is nothing but worthless, childish insults.

 

[Frankfooter]

So what do you all think,... should the mods ban posts that are simply personal in nature,... and have absolutely NOTHING to do with the thread,... or let the childish behaviour continue,... ???

When one of the 1st two words in a post is,... you,... what usually follows is nothing but worthless, childish insults.

Is there an insult in the previous post?
Is it unfair to ask if you were posting against 'snitches' but have now threatened to become one?

Please, feel free to report the thread to the mods if you're offended by questions.

 

[bver_hunter]

I don't give a flying fuck what other countries are doing. I do care about our people who can't afford to heat their homes while our empty headed grandees jet all over the world spewing more pollution over a weekend than most Canadians will generate in a lifetime.

Dumbest post of the year.

 

[bver_hunter]

You say the rich need to pay their fair share I tell you they already do

Some do, some don't.

Talk about tax cheats all you want, just do not equate them with the rich

So you are telling me that the tax cheats that are caught by the CRA are not rich. Are they the middle class or the ones living in poverty??

Just be sure you understand who is really footing the bill for liberal spending how they may react to being tax targeted

What is the difference between the "Liberal Spending" and the Conservative spending under Harper that ballooned the debt?? So the Conservative spending was wise?

I guess in your strange world it is alright as long as someone else is paying

I like the rest of the middle class AM PAYING MY FAIR SHARE. Unless you think that you are getting away without paying your fair share, and need to dish out more taxes to the Government, as you feel sorry for the Rich!!

 

[FAST]

"what's mine is mine,... what's yours is mine",...

You say the rich need to pay their fair share
I tell you they already do

Talk about tax cheats all you want, just do not equate them with the rich
Just be sure you understand who is really footing the bill for liberal spending how they may react to being tax targeted

I guess in your strange world it is alright as long as someone else is paying

A repeated theme here from the socialists,.... "they should pay their fair share",... but none of them will state what that is.

Just more worthless posts, along with posts simply making comments about a member, without any thread content.

 

[Frankfooter]

A repeated theme here from the socialists,.... "they should pay their fair share",... but none of them will state what that is.

Just more worthless posts, along with posts simply making comments about a member, without any thread content.

Ok, go and prove to us how superior you are.
Please tell us:
a) what the optimal tax rates should be
b) what the optimal corporate rates should be
c) what the optimal GINI coefficient should be

Prove to us how much better informed you are by clearly stating the numbers you say we can't or won't.

 

[JohnLarue]

I like the rest of the middle class AM PAYING MY FAIR SHARE.

Another stupid ill informed response from you.
If you are middle class and the top 20% are paying 56% of taxes, It is mathematically impossible for you to be paying your fair share.

Unless you think that you are getting away without paying your fair share, and need to dish out more taxes to the Government,

Do not be concerned about the tax I pay
That is absolutely none of your business

as you feel sorry for the Rich!!

The response of a child.

Given the rich pay 56% of the taxes you value so much, you may ponder who would have to make up the difference if they decide to put their money to sleep.

 

[kkelso]

Can you define that elusive "fair share"? Half of my Canadian income goes to various levels of government. When is it enough? What's the magic number that constitutes "fair share"? Will 80% be enough? We're at the point where taxes have gone so high that evasion has become a daily occurrence before my very eyes and that is not only choking the economy, but actually decreasing the tax revenues. We're slowly, but surely moving into barter economy. And you know who will be the losers, right? The people who are living off the rest of us.

If the middle class are paying their share of the taxes, then the rich should do the same. They have ways and means of avoiding the payment of their taxes to the extent that some are virtually paying little to no taxes at all. So this has to be addressed. Then the taxes can be reduced for all. Yes, we are paying a substantial amount of our incomes as taxes. But there are many other developed countries that have higher rates of taxes as compared to Canada.

So answer jcpro's question. What is the "fair share"? I'm in the states but unfortunately I make most of my money in New York and California, so I am well over the 50% mark as well.

KK

 

[FAST]

So answer jcpro's question. What is the "fair share"? I'm in the states but unfortunately I make most of my money in New York and California, so I am well over the 50% mark as well.

KK

Already been asked of the socialists here,... who constantly use the useless term,... but as it is meaningless,... no intelligent replies.

But one also has to understand,... a situation created by socialism,... cannot be changed by more socialism.

 

[Frankfooter]

Already been asked of the socialists here,... who constantly use the useless term,... but as it is meaningless,... no intelligent replies.

But one also has to understand,... a situation created by socialism,... cannot be changed by more socialism.

Hey FAST, aren't you going to answer my questions and show us how morally superior you are?


Please tell us:
a) what the optimal tax rates should be
b) what the optimal corporate rates should be
c) what the optimal GINI coefficient should be

Prove to us how much better informed you are by clearly stating the numbers you say we can't or won't.

 

[toguy5252]

Already been asked of the socialists here,... who constantly use the useless term,... but as it is meaningless,... no intelligent replies.

But one also has to understand,... a situation created by socialism,... cannot be changed by more socialism.

LOL. So a graduated income tax system is socialism. Is OHIP? socialism. In the US the government bailed out the banks allowing shareholders etc to make billions of dollars was that socialism? How about the auto industry? When to government of both countries provide subsidies to certain industries is that socialism? When the government basically paid for what was the Skydome so a stadium could host events that most people could not afford to go to but wealthy people who were given tickets by companies that were writing them off was that socialism.

It seems that the only time something is socialist is when the government is giving money or tax credits or subsidies etc. to someone else/

 

[FAST]

We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created th

LOL. So a graduated income tax system is socialism. Is OHIP? socialism. In the US the government bailed out the banks allowing shareholders etc to make billions of dollars was that socialism? How about the auto industry? When to government of both countries provide subsidies to certain industries is that socialism? When the government basically paid for what was the Skydome so a stadium could host events that most people could not afford to go to but wealthy people who were given tickets by companies that were writing them off was that socialism.

It seems that the only time something is socialist is when the government is giving money or tax credits or subsidies etc. to someone else/

When did I state that a graduated income tax system is, or is not socialism,... ???

I have not made ANY statements as to what is socialism.

Simply that a certain faction here constantly throws a typical useless socialist,..."their fair share" cliché,... without being able to quantify it in any manner.

Mind you,...THAT is a good example of socialism though.

So still no answer from the socialists here,... not surprised.

Oh and,... this thread is about Canada,... not about the US banking system.

And its very clear who are the registered commies here, simply by their cowardice posts, of which, you are excluded.

 

[Frankfooter]

A repeated theme here from the socialists,.... "they should pay their fair share",... but none of them will state what that is.

Already been asked of the socialists here,... who constantly use the useless term,... but as it is meaningless,... no intelligent replies..

I have not made ANY statements as to what is socialism.

Aw, you complain about others not answering questions or clearly stating their views but you're the worst at actually stating what you believe.

So lets add to the list of questions you won't answer:

How do you define socialism?
Is taxation socialism?
Are public schools socialism?
Is public health care socialism?

And then you can still answer these ones:

Hey FAST, aren't you going to answer my questions and show us how morally superior you are?


Please tell us:
a) what the optimal tax rates should be
b) what the optimal corporate rates should be
c) what the optimal GINI coefficient should be

Prove to us how much better informed you are by clearly stating the numbers you say we can't or won't.

 

[toguy5252]

When did I state that a graduated income tax system is, or is not socialism,... ???

I have not made ANY statements as to what is socialism.

Simply that a certain faction here constantly throws a typical useless socialist,..."their fair share" cliché,... without being able to quantify it in any manner.

Mind you,...THAT is a good example of socialism though.

So still no answer from the socialists here,... not surprised.

Oh and,... this thread is about Canada,... not about the US banking system.

And its very clear who are the registered commies here, simply by their cowardice posts, of which, you are excluded.

I have no idea what you are talking about but generally speaking the people who always fall back on criticizing socialism and touting capitalism have no idea about either.

If you are concerned about the redistribution of wealth the GOP tax plan is the greatest redistribution of wealth in history.

 

[bver_hunter]

Another stupid ill informed response from you.
If you are middle class and the top 20% are paying 56% of taxes, It is mathematically impossible for you to be paying your fair share.

So you are not paying your fair share then?? Then why the hell are you complaining about the high taxes when you are not paying your fair share? Just contradicting what you stand for with your childish assumptions.

Do not be concerned about the tax I pay
That is absolutely none of your business

Could not care less what you pay. You are not paying your fair share anyway!!!

The response of a child.

Grumpy old man with a mind like a baby in a cradle.

Given the rich pay 56% of the taxes you value so much, you may ponder who would have to make up the difference if they decide to put their money to sleep.

Give it a rest, you are sounding like a worn out record.

 

[bver_hunter]

Hey FAST, aren't you going to answer my questions and show us how morally superior you are?


Please tell us:
a) what the optimal tax rates should be
b) what the optimal corporate rates should be
c) what the optimal GINI coefficient should be

Prove to us how much better informed you are by clearly stating the numbers you say we can't or won't.

The right wingies will not answer the same question thrown to us that are supposedly on the "left". According to some of them, if you are not a "Republican" or "Conservative", then you are a "Socialist". They think that even being a moderate is no different from being a socialist. Really it is like having a political discussion with a child .
Canada has had low corporate rates in comparison to the USA and is first in the G7 for overall business cost competitiveness:
KPMG's Competitive Alternatives 2016 rated 26 individual cost factors that are likely to vary significantly by location. Those unrelated to tax were grouped into four categories: labour cost, facility cost, utility cost and transportation cost. Canada ranked in the top three of each of the four categories.

https://www.investinontario.com/spo...7-corporate-tax-rate-and-cost-competitiveness