Canadian Submariner Dies

xarir

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The fire aboard HMCS Chicoutimi has claimed the life of Canadian. :(



Canadian dies of injuries from submarine fire
Last Updated Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:49:14 EDT

OTTAWA - A Canadian officer injured in Tuesday's fire aboard the HMCS Chicoutimi has died while being transferred to hospital in Ireland.

Prime Minister Paul Martin made the announcement to a hushed House of Commons late Wednesday afternoon. Martin said Lieut. Chris Saunders, a 32-year-old combat systems engineer from Saint John, N.B., died after being injured in the fire. "He gave his life serving his country and we owe his family our deepest condolences," Martin said.

Saunders was one of nine submariners who suffered smoke inhalation while putting out a fire aboard Chicoutimi on Tuesday. The sub was on its maiden voyage from Faslane, Scotland, to Halifax. It was the last of four subs purchased by the Canadian navy from Britain.

Chicoutimi was left dead in the water, without its normal communications systems. An initial news release from the Department of National Defence in Ottawa said, "The crew is safe. Several sailors experienced smoke inhalation but do not require evacuation from the submarine."

But after a physician from the Royal Navy arrived aboard on Wednesday, Saunders and two others were transferred by helicopter to hospital in Ireland. At first they were to be airlifted to Londonderry, Northern Ireland, but that order was changed after the condition of one of the patients worsened, and they were sent instead to Sligo, in the Republic of Ireland.

In Halifax, Adm. Dan McNeil explained that Sunders "went unconscious" as he was boarding the helicopter. "That was very disturbing, but we had to get him on and get him off. I understand his heart stopped."

The prime minister gave no explanation for the sudden change in Saunders' condition and the chief of defence staff, Gen. Ray Henault, blamed poor communications.

It was only after the doctor arrived and better communications links were established that "the situation became clearer." Henault said the incident ended "a little more tragically than we expected."

But Henault could give no explanation why Saunders' family was given such poor information about his condition.

In an interview with CBC News at her home in Saint John's Kingston Peninsula, just hours before news of Saunders' death, his mother Debbie Saunders said that the Department of National Defence had told his wife that "everybody had been treated and everybody was fine."

"The navy assured them that everybody was fine, so I'm sure they are. They wouldn't tell them otherwise. I am sure they would tell his wife if they were injured worse than they were."

Saunders leaves a wife, Gwen, and two young children.

When asked at a news conference in Ottawa if he was still in favour of the acquisition of the four used subs, which have been plagued with technical problems, including leaks, bad valves and a big dent in one hull, Henault said, "Absolutely."

Written by CBC News Online staff


http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/10/06/saunders041006.html
 

shack

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WhOiSyOdAdDy? said:
Would you have the same cavalier attitude if it was someone in your family?
 

onthebottom

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Wait a minute - did Ireland have WMDs?

Sorry, not that damn funny. Sad for the family.

A military is a hard thing to do halfass, not that you’re not trying.

OTB
 
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WhOiSyOdAdDy?

Re: I'll second that

SoldierBoy said:
Then you're an ASSHOLE.
Really?

That is quite a statement, considering that you know neither me nor my family. Perhaps I will encourage them to become submariners or Sea King crewmen in the pathetic Canadian navy.

Originally posted by new2game
With your grammar, you are one to talk about literacy.
 

healer677

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Its a shame that some blue collar sailor got smoked by a piece of substandard equiptment.

What the hell do we need subs for anyway? Maybe we should get better choppers, that might be a better buy for the CAF.
 

Manji

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I agree!

What a waste.

I really feel sorry for our armed forces.
No funding, substandard equipment, no real respect from the general public and lousy pay.

The Canadian military must be demoralized beyond belief and perhaps repair!

Maybe we should make a deal with the Americans and have them supply us with equipment.
Of course, the drawback of having the Americans fund our military is that our military would then have to answer to the US and would probably be sent to places such as Iraq; meaning it would make our military into a bunch of mercernaries!
 

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My respects to the sailor's family.

The ironic part is that these subs represent one of the few areas where the armed forces have been given the money to get what they want(ed) in the recent past. That they have been plagued with such difficulties has become tragic.

Anyone who dismisses the loss of this sailor is an ass.
 

Goober Mcfly

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WIYD: It's a big deal to Saunders' wife, Gwen, and their two young children, you heartless bastard.
 

jwmorrice

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...WIYD, your comments were uncalled for and I would like you to retract them. Our men and women in the armed forces are making do with what they have to the best of their ability. Yes you are entitled to your opinion but that comment is considered insulting.
I wouldn't like to see TERB start censoring posts or pressuring members on such grounds. That would be a truly slippery slope.

jwm
 

Goober Mcfly

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jwmorrice said:
I wouldn't like to see TERB start censoring posts or pressuring members on such grounds. That would be a truly slippery slope.

jwm
I don't like your tone of voice there, jwm...
 

Berlin

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Sub accident.

It's sad and tragic indeed.

As for the insensitive comment and for what it is, I don't think it should be bleeped or needs to be retracted. Let it sit, so others can judge for themsleves.
 
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