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Canadian soldier says the war in Ukraine is going very badly

Leimonis

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Even when Biden was CONVINCED Russia was going to attack, did he lift a finger to try and stop the war? The so called "leader of the free world" can't even pick up the fucking phone?
yes! that clearly proves that Russia is an innocent victim
 

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Russia is trying to avoid being a victim. Ukraine is the victim of the proxy war. Two packs of Hyenas fighting over a dying beast.
In Nottyland, "being a victim" translates as "not wanting to lose face by failing at the war they thought would be a cake walk".
 
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In Nottyland, "being a victim" translates as "not wanting to lose face by failing at the war they thought would be a cake walk".
Not being the victim is being in a much larger war with a larger enemy. ie NATO. They are not failing .There is a lot of talk about Ukrainian resistance starting to crumble in the Donbas.
 

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Rawwwr Russia strong and the weak must submit to the strong Raaaaawwwr ...... wahhhhhh (baby crying sound) Russia being slapped around by NATO like a weak bitch ... Rawwwwr...wahhhhhh....Rawwwwr

It is exactly like the Trump supporters, Trump is strongest president ever.....Trump is a victim of..... Trump is strongest.....
 
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Not being the victim is being in a much larger war with a larger enemy. ie NATO. They are not failing .There is a lot of talk about Ukrainian resistance starting to crumble in the Donbas.
So you've read so much Russian Propaganda that Poland joining NATO was really an act of war and Ukraine needed to be invaded to stop them from making their own choice?

Looks like invading to undermine NATO didn't turn out too well.
 
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Rawwwr Russia strong and the weak must submit to the strong Raaaaawwwr ...... wahhhhhh (baby crying sound) Russia being slapped around by NATO like a weak bitch ... Rawwwwr...wahhhhhh....Rawwwwr

It is exactly like the Trump supporters, Trump is strongest president ever.....Trump is a victim of..... Trump is strongest.....
ha ha, that is funny. You are really getting sucked into western propaganda. Russia is really not saying a helluva lot.
 

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So you've read so much Russian Propaganda that Poland joining NATO was really an act of war and Ukraine needed to be invaded to stop them from making their own choice?

Looks like invading to undermine NATO didn't turn out too well.
I don't think they planned to undermine NATO, but that would always be a fringe benefit. We will see what they have to give up to Erdogan to get his blessing. Croatia is not feeling too good about it either.
 

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When Ukraine is defeated NATO will have to face the fact Ukraine lost in spite of all the aid it provided. It will also have to face the reality that it has no stomach for a direct confrontation with Russia that could end the world. So in that reality, it will have to negotiate a mutual security arrangement with Russia. This could be a great thing. Less money wasted on weapons we are afraid to use. Downsizing of militaries on all sides and moving on to better pursuits then planning how to kill each other.
 

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Non NATO membership and neutrality were also part of the conditions because it was NATO that encouraged Ukraine to renege on Minsk. The problem is a vehemently anti Russian govt with NATO enablement. Finland has been neutral after attacking Russia and killing thousands, Over a period of time Russia let them do whatever they wanted and even reduced war repartitions awarded to it by 25% in spite of having to rebuild after an utterly devastating war.
Then invading Ukraine was even more stupid.
Now Putin has Finland and Sweden as part of a NATO border.

Putin is stealing children and now stealing Ukraine's grain and destroying grain silos.
You think Ukranians don't remember or want to repeat the starvation they lived through previously under Russian rule?
 

nottyboi

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Then invading Ukraine was even more stupid.
Now Putin has Finland and Sweden as part of a NATO border.

Putin is stealing children and now stealing Ukraine's grain and destroying grain silos.
You think Ukranians don't remember or want to repeat the starvation they lived through previously under Russian rule?
Whatever, in war you destroy shit. The US tried to starve Syria but Russia sent wheat to them under naval escort, What about the 500K Iraqi children the US killed with sanctions? The main reason the world is facing a food crisis is sanctions against Russia.
 

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NATO is the agressor .... NATO is pussy ..... NATO is the aggressor. Whatever is convenient at the moment you will say it.
NATO is the aggressor on policy, but they are a pussy in actual military confrontation. After losing to the Taliban it seems sensible they should not take on Russia. They really did not think Russia would attack, and when the did the US felt it was a great opportunity to use this to carve Russia and EU apart and take control of the EU. the worse the war gets the stronger their hold over the EU. The US is the hawk the Euros are too weak to act in their own interest.
 
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Whatever, in war you destroy shit. The US tried to starve Syria but Russia sent wheat to them under naval escort, What about the 500K Iraqi children the US killed with sanctions? The main reason the world is facing a food crisis is sanctions against Russia.
Iraqi sanctions and war? I was against them then the same way I'm against the Russian war.
Why are you against US imperialism but backing Russian imperialism?

Why do you support Russia stealing grain from Ukraine and threatening to starve Ukrainians again?
 

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T.O.
When Ukraine is defeated NATO will have to face the fact Ukraine lost in spite of all the aid it provided. It will also have to face the reality that it has no stomach for a direct confrontation with Russia that could end the world. So in that reality, it will have to negotiate a mutual security arrangement with Russia. This could be a great thing. Less money wasted on weapons we are afraid to use. Downsizing of militaries on all sides and moving on to better pursuits then planning how to kill each other.
Great post comrade, worthy of a Pravda award.
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Iraqi sanctions and war? I was against them then the same way I'm against the Russian war.
Why are you against US imperialism but backing Russian imperialism?

Why do you support Russia stealing grain from Ukraine and threatening to starve Ukrainians again?
Ukriane has lots of food. Its Zelensky and his US controllers that wanna export all the Ukranian grain, starve the people and then blame it on Russia. Sanctions are what is causing the food crisis, not the lack of willingness of Russia to export food and fertilizer.
 
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Ukriane has lots of food. Its Zelensky and his US controllers that wanna export all the Ukranian grain, starve the people and then blame it on Russia. Sanctions are what is causing the food crisis, not the lack of willingness of Russia to export food and fertilizer.
Wow, now this is crazy Z talk on an entirely new level.
Your new theory is that Zelenskyy is the one who is trying to starve Ukrainians and only Vlad the rump impaler can save the poor people of Ukraine?

Do you actually believe this or are you just trolling?
 
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