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Canada added 54,000 jobs in September, StatsCan says

WyattEarp

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How would the leftists on this board react to pictures of Trump in blackface?
Orange is the new Black?

You're right. That to me is a key aspect in virtue signaling. The Left decides who is worthy of exoneration for these social infractions.
 

bver_hunter

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More waffle from the righties as they cannot accept the fact that the economy has done really well with higher wages and GDP that exceeded expectations. We heard the usual scaremongering after Harper was toast.
But Canada's debt to GDP ratio is significantly lower than the USA, that has kept on ballooning since Trumpty Dumpty took over. He promised that the revenues etc from his tax cuts mainly to the very rich would be clawed back in additional sales taxes and more jobs. Proved to be False, with his rash spending on items like the border wall, excessive military budgets, then diverting it to the border wall, and all that is true is his various scandals and criminal charades!!

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/countries-by-national-debt/
 

WyattEarp

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When was the last time you called out the right wingers like Phil for his constant praise of Trump, be it the Economy or the Stock Prices??
Oh my, do I have to do all the work around here?

Of course, the U.S. stock market is going to do well if Trump lowers corporate taxes and juices up a late cycle economy with large deficits. All while the Fed is maintaining low rates. It's ridiculous to give even Trump that much credit. Some aspects of the economy are just impacted by simple math.

I happen to think lowering corporate tax rates was necessary to stay competitive globally. That does not mean I think personal income tax rates needed to be lowered. I also support certain structural efforts by the Trump Administration. Namely addressing the unfair trade practices of China.
 

bver_hunter

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Oh my, do I have to do all the work around here?

Of course, the U.S. stock market is going to do well if Trump lowers corporate taxes and juices up a late cycle economy with large deficits. All while the Fed is maintaining low rates. It's ridiculous to give even Trump that much credit. Some aspects of the economy are just impacted by simple math.

I happen to think lowering corporate tax rates was necessary to stay competitive globally. That does not mean I think personal income tax rates needed to be lowered. I also support certain structural efforts by the Trump Administration. Namely addressing the unfair trade practices of China.
You are selectively trying to find fault with those to the left of you, but definitely displaying a blind spot to others that have the same train of thought as regards your political views.

By the way tariffs were always considered to "Socialist / Communist" type of legislations. We have seen that with countries that tried to protect their industries like China, India, Russia, Cuba and the former Soviet Union. Of course you will find an excuse to support these acts by Trump.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1826128?seq=1/analyze

Still we had the right wing doomsday soothsayers on this Board who were predicting how Trudeau would destroy the economy etc. But their only tool that they try to use is.... ohhh, he is increasing the deficits and will not be able to balance it like predicted. Yes, but, Trudeau promised extra deficits and exactly like Trump predicted that the budget would eventually balance out with the extra revues coming in. But, it is not happening at the moment, as Trump ballooned the deficit and the extra revenues have not materialized. In Canada's case there is extra spending that has been assigned for various projects. Both ways have created numerous new jobs, however, stuff like the tariffs have threatened the economies of not all both the nations but may lead to a global recession if they are not rescinded in a timely manner!!
 

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Stuck in Lodi again
The plan is working

(my name) did you see the job numbers?

We’re leading the country.

When the Liberals were in power, Hydro prices were through the roof.

Red tape was choking the jobs right out of the province.

But things are different now. We’re back on the right track.

In the last month alone 41,100 jobs were created in this province.

I’m proud of the work we’ve been doing to set up the conditions for Ontario to thrive.

Doug
 

bver_hunter

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Thanks to the Trudeau Government the jobs numbers are very steady and growing!!
 

WyattEarp

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You are selectively trying to find fault with those to the left of you, but definitely displaying a blind spot to others that have the same train of thought as regards your political views.

By the way tariffs were always considered to "Socialist / Communist" type of legislations. We have seen that with countries that tried to protect their industries like China, India, Russia, Cuba and the former Soviet Union. Of course you will find an excuse to support these acts by Trump.
Your blind spot Beav is you believe everything Trump does is wrong, has to be wrong. I don't agree with every Trump policy nor did I disagree with every Obama policy. I'm old enough to not get caught up in the political moment. That's why I described your arguments as emotive in an earlier post.

What is the point of discussing trade policy? You're going to mimic a liberal media outlet that likely knows damn well that we will be in trade tussles with China long after Trump leaves office. History will give us clear reflection on our relationship with China without all the political noise of today.

Regarding your point on tariffs being Socialist/Communist legislation, tariffs have been around for centuries. Long before Marx and Engels came along. They have been enacted by many countries down through history for various reasons. The United States early in its history enacted high tariffs to protect nascent colonial industry from larger European competitors and as importantly to fund the Federal government.

The Trump tariffs would more aptly described as a national industrial policy. Something free market conservatives and libertarians loathe. In any event, a unilateral trade tussle targeting a bad trade actor like China hardly qualifies as a broad Socialist policy. What much of the press is failing to tell us is how much the details of all these trade agreements have always been negotiated, compromised and arbitrated.
 

bver_hunter

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Your blind spot Beav is you believe everything Trump does is wrong, has to be wrong. I don't agree with every Trump policy nor did I disagree with every Obama policy. I'm old enough to not get caught up in the political moment. That's why I described your arguments as emotive in an earlier post.

What is the point of discussing trade policy? You're going to mimic a liberal media outlet that likely knows damn well that we will be in trade tussles with China long after Trump leaves office. History will give us clear reflection on our relationship with China without all the political noise of today.

Regarding your point on tariffs being Socialist/Communist legislation, tariffs have been around for centuries. Long before Marx and Engels came along. They have been enacted by many countries down through history for various reasons. The United States early in its history enacted high tariffs to protect nascent colonial industry from larger European competitors and as importantly to fund the Federal government.

The Trump tariffs would more aptly described as a national industrial policy. Something free market conservatives and libertarians loathe. In any event, a unilateral trade tussle targeting a bad trade actor like China hardly qualifies as a broad Socialist policy. What much of the press is failing to tell us is how much the details of all these trade agreements have always been negotiated, compromised and arbitrated.
Ohhh... so I have a blind spot if I am critical of Trump, while it is okay for you to have a continuous dig at Trudeau. I see your logic!! You seem to agree with almost all the Trump policies and have taken a very dogmatic approach in your discussions.

I am not saying that what China was doing with regards to the protection of their rare elements was right. There are many other routes to approaching it, and just random tariffs based on impulse was the most ridiculous approach, just like the pullout of troops from Syria without consultation with the Military, Intel Agencies and our NATO Allies. So this tit for tat tariffs does no one any favours. Why can you not accept that simple Fact??

Trump is acting on his impulse in most instances. All he is doing is trying to appease his base. You seem to swallow a lot of his gibberish!!
 

WyattEarp

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Ohhh... so I have a blind spot if I am critical of Trump, while it is okay for you to have a continuous dig at Trudeau. I see your logic!!
Once again, I don't take digs at Trudeau. All I have pointed out is that Trudeau (and Trump, and Obama) can't take a whole lot of credit for the cyclical aspects of a free market economy.

It would appear you need to have sharply drawn black and white lines when engaging on political forums. It also seems like you get irritated when I won't give Trudeau his due for overseeing a strong Canadian economy.
 

bver_hunter

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Once again, I don't take digs at Trudeau. All I have pointed out is that Trudeau (and Trump, and Obama) can't take a whole lot of credit for the cyclical aspects of a free market economy.

It would appear you need to have sharply drawn black and white lines when engaging on political forums. It also seems like you get irritated when I won't give Trudeau his due for overseeing a strong Canadian economy.
You have your own political views that you are welcome to have. But when your numerous posts are all about attacking anyone on the left, but not meeting the same standards when the right are involved, is here for all to see. Once again you have no problems when there are posts praising Trump for the USA economy doing well, in spite of what Obama handed to Trump. But when using the same rhetoric with Trudeau, and duh, you are challenging the whole notion that Trudeau should take any credit for it's performance. The day you maintain the same balance between Trump and Trudeau is when there will be some credibility in your point of view!!
 
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