If your definition of a "great" manager is one who has his team so screwed for pitching that they give up 9 runs yesterday and 17 runs today, I guess Francona is pretty amazing. 24 runs over two games is quite a lot. It happens when a team completely burns its pitching staff.So Gibbons is better now than Francona? TF has two WS with Bosox, and Cleveland is still 5 games better than us after losing 2. TF got on the phone with his GM to call up the hottest pitcher they have in the upper minors as he brought in Bauer to win the 19 inning game.
Happ-y with the split, probably the best we could have expected against the hottest team in baseball.
Maybe we would have won 3 of 4. With 17 run support today we could have started Hutch.Exactly, or, as stated a page or 2 ago, sometimes you have to lose a battle to win the war.
Did I use the word "great"?? You said TF is less of a manager than Gibby, which I disagreed with supporting facts.If your definition of a "great" manager is one who has his team so screwed for pitching that they give up 9 runs yesterday and 17 runs today, I guess Francona is pretty amazing. 24 runs over two games is quite a lot. It happens when a team completely burns its pitching staff.
Agreed, hope Cecil can find his groove again, and maybe Grilli can have a good stretch run.I think we're 2 good relievers away from making a deep playoff run. Do you guys agree??
Well, let's hope. While his start yesterday was a promising QS, pretty much every pitcher was a Koufax with that dumb ump behind the plate. 2 very good hitting teams combined to score 3 runs over 19 innings.And of course Stroman also needs to (permanently) find his mojo back, which he did his last start
We're still waiting for one iota of evidence that Toronto intentionally lost the game on July 1, 2016.TF chose to go for the win rather than throw the game.
Edwin has a shot at Delgado's club record for RBI's before the AS break. Guesses?Moving on.....
Eddie now has an 11 RBI lead on Ortiz for top spot and that should make him an automatic for the ASG. And Josh has come from nowhere to rank 6th in hr and 4th in RBI and he's batting .298! All this with no Joe-Bats.
The ? is how close Eddie can come to 100 ribs by the All Star break.
Start a poll.We're still waiting for one iota of evidence that Toronto intentionally lost the game on July 1, 2016.
If your definition of a "great" manager is one who has his team so screwed for pitching that they give up 9 runs yesterday and 17 runs today, I guess Francona is pretty amazing. 24 runs over two games is quite a lot. It happens when a team completely burns its pitching staff.
Allowing your team to lose a game sends a bad message to the players and I have never heard of any major league team allowing themselves to lose a game, especially at this point in the season.Sure... Maybe YOU don't. But a professional like John Gibbons has the intelligence and insight to realize that his team can win 2 games if he avoids using up his next starters and allows his team to lose the 19 inning game.
That's what separates the pros from the joes like you, I guess.
Dude, you can not as a manager, make moves based on what you think your GM may or may not do to facilitate your moves. You have the guys in your line up that day, that's who you have to work with. End of story.Allowing your team to lose a game sends a bad message to the players and I have never heard of any major league team allowing themselves to lose a game, especially at this point in the season.
I believe that when a major league team has an opportunity to win the game, you go for it.
I still maintain that they should have put a starter in instead of Goins and Barney. They had Hutch ready to go the next day as his previous start was few days prior (which they would have been aware of). .
And 1st in runs scored.Josh has come from nowhere to rank 6th in hr and 4th in RBI and he's batting .298!
Heck, we could have started Goins or Barney.With 17 run support today we could have started Hutch.
You are right again!
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Perry
We're still waiting for one iota of evidence that Toronto intentionally lost the game on July 1, 2016.
Evidence: gcostanza used the term "lose the battle" which means they threw the game.Exactly, or, as stated a page or 2 ago, sometimes you have to lose a battle to win the war.
No. It means they played the odds. Anyone could have won it at that point. Jays could have walked off with a homer. Anything.Evidence: gcostanza used the term "lose the battle" which means they threw the game.
So everyone agrees they forfeited the July1 game. Then the issue becomes is was it the right thing to do.
Without the foresight that we would score 26 runs in the next two games, SAVING Happ to start against the former CY Kluber makes some sense. The latter was coming off a big month going 4-1, 2CG and WHIP 0.7.
But as Ref and others say, professional teams are paid to win. If we miss the playoffs by 1 game, then we lose the war as well.
Wrong.Evidence: gcostanza used the term "lose the battle" which means they threw the game.
So everyone agrees they forfeited the July1 game.