This.
A strong starting pitcher is far more valuable/tougher to develop than a reliever (even a closer).
Having a great closer isn't worth much if you can't don't have leads for him to save.
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A strong starting pitcher is far more valuable/tougher to develop than a reliever (even a closer).
Having a great closer isn't worth much if you can't don't have leads for him to save.
So here we are... we have what is certainly starting to look a lot like another incarnation of Mariano Rivera in the making and before we even know what we have some people already want to turn him into something else.
No George, over the past 40 years or so baseball has learned that a reliever like Rivera is a different animal than a top notch starter but at least equally as valuable. Why do you want to fuck with what works?
Perry
No George, over the past 40 years or so baseball has learned that a reliever like Rivera is a different animal than a top notch starter but at least equally as valuable. Why do you want to fuck with what works?
Perry
This may sound harsh but Rogers should back out of hosting the Grey Cup, it's not in their best interest. In order to keep the core of the present team they need to make the move to natural turf sooner rather than later. As for the comment that Tulo should be traded I'm not buying it. Once Tulo makes the altitude adjustment he will be a .300 hitter, that's too much to give away on the hunch that Travis can stay healthy. AA would spit out his espresso if that were suggested to him.
Closers have a different skill combination than starters. Starters need endurance, 3 or 4 different quality pitches and the skill to choose when and how to mix them. Closers need 2 overpowering pitches - sometimes just one - and the ability to go all out for 15-30 pitches and mow the opposing hitters down quickly. And of course the fabled ability to withstand pressure and bounce back. Rivera would have been a lousy starter and some Cy Young winning starters would have been awful closers.
Making Osuna a starter, I'll quote the adorable Barry Bonds.
"Next question, cause it's stupid".
"Next question, cause it's stupid".
I think you're correct.
And statistics tend to back you up.
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-flawed-importance-of-the-closer/
Why? Jays are in control of their own destiny.Just when we need him most Archer chokes
Rays win would have been nice, but hardly essential.
This Jays team is amazing, I went to the game Saturday when Price was pitching, great game. One guy was wearing a shirt that said "1 BJ is always better than 9 Yanks." Very clever.
They've been selling those shirts outside the stadium for a while, but I believe they're not official. They also have one with two thumbs pointing to the person wearing the shirt and the caption "this guy loves BJs".
If the Jays had had a competent closer(dominant would have been even better) from the start of the season , there would be no need to score board watch now. The lead would be comfortable. Osuna is doing an excellent job, just leave him where he is.
Osuna is 20 years old and maybe the most talented closer in the AL. He throws hard for one inning..he would like be only ordinary as a starter. Imagine him closing like this for the next 15 years! And a great closer makes the starters better. They are not as worried about wins being blown - and I bet RA Dickey would agree.
Right....cause I'm sure he's going to be happy about that. He probably do the happy dance when they say "son, we know you can probably make it as a starter, but fuck you. You pitching 1 inning here or there to close games".
Not to mention, why on god's green earth would you want to trade 80 good inning for 230???
gotta love TERB GM's that don't know what they're talking about. Almost every pitcher who becomes a closer is a failed starter. EVERY organization wants to get more innings out of a good arm.
If the jays had more competent starters, they would have no need to score board watch. You can't close games if your not in position to win them. The closer role is a great roll for the rest of this season. To saddle a kid like this as a closer because he's good at it, won't sit well with him, and if you think the organization it not going to look at him a starter for the betterment of the club, your sadly mistaken.
