Blue Jays 2009

Are we better this year ?

  • yes

    Votes: 64 45.1%
  • no

    Votes: 49 34.5%
  • who cares the Yankees are going to win

    Votes: 15 10.6%
  • who cares the Red Sox are going to win

    Votes: 14 9.9%

  • Total voters
    142

teassoc

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That Yahoo piece doesn't really say anything new. For the moment I remain optimistic that one or two of the possible starting pitchers will come good - in particular Janssen if he makes the rotation. If they don't and McGowan isn't back until late in the season they are going to struggle.
 

blueline

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salsamarc said:
waiting for Rolen to go down....
Overbay is also on the mend after getting a sports hernia and two regular hernias fixed in January.

Does anyone expect Roy Halladay to remain in a Jays uniform all season? Lots of talk going around about a possible mid-season trade if Jays are well out of the race.
 

blueline

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guyroch said:
If Roy Halladay is traded then a bad contract has to go along with it .... It's a package Roy Halladay and Rolen if you want Roy Halladay ....
Good luck finding a team who will take those two together. It will be Doc all alone. Contending teams will line up to get him if/when he becomes available. I don't think many teams will line up to sign an often injured 3rd baseman with a big contract.
 

teassoc

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salsamarc said:
Nah!!! BUt I do agree with their grading, specially the batting and closer sections
I guess a reference to your source would have helped.

Looking ahead 2009 could be a poor season if the Jays are unlucky again with injuries and the array of new pitching talent proves as empty as it has sometimes proved in the past (Thomson and Ocka). Funny thing is nobody this time last year would have expected the Jays to be the best pitching team in Baseball last season.

Given recent experience with the Raptors probably best not to expect too much from the Jays this season but with Gaston in charge maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised once again.

Big unknowns for me this season are TB a one year wonder and will all that money take the Yankees to the top.
 

blueline

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guyroch said:
Well Doc's contract is still at the old rate of basebally Cy winnners and so he is a bargain and teams might take that into effect .... It's often done in sports .....

Heck JP brought him here knowing he is a injury waiting to happen and so it's not like MLB baseball GM's are smart
Doc won't be the problem. As I said, you will never package him with Rolen. Contending teams will be looking for several available players mid season, it is has been predicted by more than one baseball analyst. Of the potential contending teams, which one needs Doc AND an ailing third baseman (together) who makes $12 million/season for two more seasons (including 2009)?

Boston, Yankees, Rays
Indians, Twins, Tigers (they will be having their own fire sale)
Angels

Mets, Phillies, Marlins
Dodgers, DBacks
Cubs, Cardinals

Any of these teams would love to pick up Doc at the trade deadline, but all have very capable third basemen. Looks like you are stuck with him. ;)
 

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Your fearless leader speaks on Halladay. Then he speaks again. Then again.

Ricciardi Discusses Halladay

By Tim Dierkes [February 24, 2009 at 11:47am CST]
Blue Jays GM J.P. Ricciardi is tired of the Roy Halladay rumors, even though they are entirely his fault. He told ESPN's Jayson Stark:

"Roy Halladay is not going anywhere," Ricciardi says, as emphatically as he can possibly say it without grabbing a bullhorn or splashing it on a billboard. "This has become kind of a hot topic in baseball, but we're not trading him. We have no intention of trading him. He allows us to be good. And we feel we are going to be good. And he's going to be The Guy." So there. It's settled, right? Trading his ace has never entered the GM's mind? "Nope," the GM says succinctly.

But here's Ricciardi about a week ago, to Joel Sherman of the New York Post:

"Ownership wants no part of trading Roy at this time. He's the face of the organization. Right now we are not thinking about going down that road. But that is what we feel in February. Who knows how you feel in June? We have thought about it, this has not escaped us [that Halladay could leave as a free agent, and trading him might be best for the long-term health of the organization]. In June, we may have to say. 'Is this the way we want to go?' It will be up to ownership, and ownership has a strong attachment to Doc."

Ricciardi left the door wide open in his quotes to Sherman, and that was his choice. Ricciardi also had this to say to CBSSports.com's Scott Miller:

"The only way we'd trade him, I'd say, is if all hell broke loose and the stock market went nuts and (ownership) said we've got to take the payroll down to bare bones. And if that was the case, then we'd be trading a lot of people."

If Ricciardi had made his emphatic statements to Sherman or Miller, we wouldn't be talking about Halladay.


:confused: Huh? So is he thinking about a possible trade or not?
 

teassoc

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blueline said:
Your fearless leader speaks on Halladay. Then he speaks again. Then again.

Ricciardi Discusses Halladay

By Tim Dierkes [February 24, 2009 at 11:47am CST]
Blue Jays GM J.P. Ricciardi is tired of the Roy Halladay rumors, even though they are entirely his fault. He told ESPN's Jayson Stark:

"Roy Halladay is not going anywhere," Ricciardi says, as emphatically as he can possibly say it without grabbing a bullhorn or splashing it on a billboard. "This has become kind of a hot topic in baseball, but we're not trading him. We have no intention of trading him. He allows us to be good. And we feel we are going to be good. And he's going to be The Guy." So there. It's settled, right? Trading his ace has never entered the GM's mind? "Nope," the GM says succinctly.

But here's Ricciardi about a week ago, to Joel Sherman of the New York Post:

"Ownership wants no part of trading Roy at this time. He's the face of the organization. Right now we are not thinking about going down that road. But that is what we feel in February. Who knows how you feel in June? We have thought about it, this has not escaped us [that Halladay could leave as a free agent, and trading him might be best for the long-term health of the organization]. In June, we may have to say. 'Is this the way we want to go?' It will be up to ownership, and ownership has a strong attachment to Doc."

Ricciardi left the door wide open in his quotes to Sherman, and that was his choice. Ricciardi also had this to say to CBSSports.com's Scott Miller:

"The only way we'd trade him, I'd say, is if all hell broke loose and the stock market went nuts and (ownership) said we've got to take the payroll down to bare bones. And if that was the case, then we'd be trading a lot of people."

If Ricciardi had made his emphatic statements to Sherman or Miller, we wouldn't be talking about Halladay.


Huh? So is he thinking about a possible trade or not?
Wishfull thinking here by other AL East team supporters. :D
 

blueline

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teassoc said:
Wishfull thinking here by other AL East team supporters. :D
Well, of course I would love to see Doc in a Red Sox uniform. Then again, he would look good on any other team. He is arguably the best pitcher in MLB.
 

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Season Opener

Jays win vs Tigers 12 - 5 (yes that's right that is NOT a typo)

every Jay in the line up had at least one hit (15 total)

Adam Lind set his own personal recor with 6 RBIS and the Doc got the win

THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!











p.s. sad to see the morons throwing baseballs into the field while the jays were batting on the 8th, after that delay the pitcher Rincon (whom at that point had struggle with control came back to strike Overbay out and to retire Barajas with a flu out to right field)
 

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The youngsters Lind and Snider went 6 for 9 with power. BJ Ryan is a big question mark. He didn't inspire confidence last year and a closer with an 88MPH fastball is not that intimidating.
 

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Travis Snider is eligible for Rookie of the year. He is on pace for 972 RBI's this year :)
 

blueline

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SkyRider said:
Does anybody know if Travis Snider is eligible for Rookie of the Year balloting?
Sure - as long as he keep playing. This is the criteria a player must meet in order to qualify:

"It was amended to the current standards in 1971 to 130 at-bats, 50 innings pitched or 45 days on the active roster of a major league club (excluding time on the disabled list) before September 1"
 

teassoc

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SkyRider said:
The youngsters Lind and Snider went 6 for 9 with power. BJ Ryan is a big question mark. He didn't inspire confidence last year and a closer with an 88MPH fastball is not that intimidating.
Blown save and win in tonight's game for Ryan.

Last year this was a game they would have lost.
 
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