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SS Sharla

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Nov 1, 2010
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Kitchener
Hey Ladies,

Today I had a response to a backpage add I posted. The guy booked a session and after getting the address he said I was living in his neighbourhood and that he would report me to the police if I didn't give him a free session.

Techniquically I wasn't doing anything really reportable. All communication about services and rates were done through private email. However I have people in my house to protect and don't want bad attention on me.

So if you get an email from someone who's name is "Sam u L" please don't respond to him with your address.

For the record . . . if someone blackmails you into sex is that some form of rape? Whatever, the answer the that is probably "That's the biz" right?
 

Viper66

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Dec 11, 2010
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I think blackmail is just that, blackmail... whether it's for sex, drugs, money or political favours it's all the same crime...
Sorry to hear it happened to you....
It's also too bad you were not in a position to have him over, get a pic and then post it :)
 

SS Sharla

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Nov 1, 2010
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Kitchener
In fact I set up my webcam and took a video of him coming in and kissing me. He is a married man. If I ever feel I need to use it as leverage I will mention it to him. But I am not the kind of person to do those sorts of thing. I simply wanted something to fight back with if he DID report me. Otherwise, I won't do anything with it.
 

Ladyraven

I've seen your member
Oct 24, 2008
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all over the GTA
Hey Ladies,

Today I had a response to a backpage add I posted. The guy booked a session and after getting the address he said I was living in his neighbourhood and that he would report me to the police if I didn't give him a free session.

Techniquically I wasn't doing anything really reportable. All communication about services and rates were done through private email. However I have people in my house to protect and don't want bad attention on me.

So if you get an email from someone who's name is "Sam u L" please don't respond to him with your address.

For the record . . . if someone blackmails you into sex is that some form of rape? Whatever, the answer the that is probably "That's the biz" right?
I would assume so since you are doing something sexual against your own free will..
*hugs* sorry about this asshole . thank you for sharing his info
 

SHAUNA SHA

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Jun 25, 2010
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Hey Ladies,

Today I had a response to a backpage add I posted. The guy booked a session and after getting the address he said I was living in his neighbourhood and that he would report me to the police if I didn't give him a free session.

Techniquically I wasn't doing anything really reportable. All communication about services and rates were done through private email. However I have people in my house to protect and don't want bad attention on me.

So if you get an email from someone who's name is "Sam u L" please don't respond to him with your address.

For the record . . . if someone blackmails you into sex is that some form of rape? Whatever, the answer the that is probably "That's the biz" right?
I have two words......One starts with "F" ..the other is "HIM"....Buncha Crapola!!!It's not the "biz"....Okay ya...losers are everywhere...Same story I went thru....(pm for details)..but its plain and simple BU%% shitz!!! Hope you are okay!!Send that peice of crap my way!!! So MAD right now..this Crap pi$$es me off!!

Anyways..love ya....Hate him!!!He has no bearing... what so ever in his threat!!

xoxo Shauna Sha!!
 

Art Mann

sapiosexual
May 10, 2010
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I am totally appalled ...

. . . and once again find myself apologizing on behalf of my gender.
 

What For

Member
Jan 4, 2010
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There is a special place in hell for a guy like this. To pressure someone into having sex using blackmail should be considered rape or attempted rape. At the end of the day isn't it still sex against your will?
 

richaceg

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Feb 11, 2009
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Why would you see a guy for a session in a location where you have people in you life lives? Just a question...
 

Keyra

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Nov 3, 2008
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You're Completely Safe Sharla - The Scoop:

Thanks for telling us about this guy hon. He really does sound like an asshole. But I'd like to give my two cents on this matter.

The laws concerning prostitution in Canada have been a bit of a personal interest of mine ever since I started, so let me remind you (and everyone) of a few things.

First of all, prostitution itself isn't illegal. It's a well-known fact that here in Canada, paying money for sex (or accepting money in exchange for sex, since this appears to be a mostly-SP thread, lol) is *not* illegal and never has been. That's unique to the puritanical United States.

As far as laws concerning activities associated with prostitution go, there are three of them. Sharla, you correctly mentioned one of them - you can't solicit sex for money (or money for sex) in public, but private communication is fine, and emails are considered private.

You can't give any portion of your earnings to *anyone*, or else they are now "living on the avails of prostitution", and could go to prison for 10 years. But this law is so retardedly broad-based that an older escort couldn't put her 18 and 19 year old kids through university because her son and daughter would now become her "pimps", "living on the avails" of her work, and technically could be arrested and charged. You have nothing to worry about this one either, since you're not giving anyone a part of your money, or even if you are this dipshit client doesn't know about it.

You did miss one though, and that's the one that says you can't keep a residence for the purposes of prostitution. Since you're hosting incalls, then technically you're keeping a "common bawdy house". (Now *there's* a 19th-century law for you ... The term "bawdy house", or even the word "bawdy" has disappeared from modern English usage, and yet that law is still on the books with those words ... *groan*.)

But you have two reasons not to worry about this idiot, and here's why.

Historically, the police in Canada have never enforced these three laws, instead figuring that what consenting adults do in private is their business. Well okay, they've arrested streetwalkers for soliciting in public, but that's because them stopping traffic is considered a "public nuisance", but the cops simply don't enforce living on the avails or bawdy house because it's a private matter between adults. The *only* time that bawdy house/avails charges ever get laid is if:

1) There are escorts under the age of 18 working.

2) Escorts, regardless of their age, are being forced, beaten, or otherwise abused into doing it against their will.

Or both. But if everybody is 18 years of age or over, and everybody is doing it of their own free will, the police simply don't bother enforcing the bawdy/avails laws. They just don't.

It gets better. As you probably heard, the three laws were challenged by a group of working girls, and on September 28th the court case was decided in our favour - all three laws were struck down, or in legal parlance, were made to be "of no force or effect". Now, it's true that this ruling has been stayed until April 29th 2011, or until the appeal to the Ontario Court of Appeals is heard, whichever comes first. BUT ... in the meantime, the police here in Ontario are refusing to lay *any* new charges under bawdy/avails/soliciting until the appeal is heard, as they want to find out whether or not there will *be* any laws still standing a few months from now.

So ... If this idiot were even to *try* to call the police, he'd politely be told that 1) since you're over 18, 2) are doing what you're doing willingly, and 3) are conducting all of your business behind closed doors and privately over emails, that there is nothing that they could do about it. If he were to be well-informed enough actually to *press* them on it, and quote Section 210 to them (Bawdy House), they would reply that with that law in a state of flux with the pending appeal, they are declining to investigate any allegations under that law.

He would politely be told to bugger off and stop wasting their time. You wouldn't even so much as get a phone call. Neither would anybody else living in the address where you host your clients. It's as simple as that.

So ... Don't worry about this guy. He's full of hot air, and he can't do a damned thing to you, no way, no how. Tell him to go sniff a blizzard. If it were me, I'd actually *dare* him to call the police, and give him their number to help him do it. But that's just me ... So you can handle this situation any way you want Sharla, but just remember: He is absolutely, totally powerless to affect you in *any* way by running to the police and squealing to them.

I hope that helps hon.

P.S. I don't post my lengthy rants that often anymore, at least not lately, but I feel so strongly on *this* topic that this idiot actually managed to arouse the fury and get me to put up another one of my posts ... Damn, I hope he emails *me* next, he's gonna hear it from me if he does, lol! ;-)
 

John Jacobs

Member
Dec 30, 2009
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Hey Ladies,

Today I had a response to a backpage add I posted. The guy booked a session and after getting the address he said I was living in his neighbourhood and that he would report me to the police if I didn't give him a free session.

Techniquically I wasn't doing anything really reportable. All communication about services and rates were done through private email. However I have people in my house to protect and don't want bad attention on me.

So if you get an email from someone who's name is "Sam u L" please don't respond to him with your address.

For the record . . . if someone blackmails you into sex is that some form of rape? Whatever, the answer the that is probably "That's the biz" right?
So after he did this you still saw him?

In fact I set up my webcam and took a video of him coming in and kissing me. He is a married man. If I ever feel I need to use it as leverage I will mention it to him. But I am not the kind of person to do those sorts of thing. I simply wanted something to fight back with if he DID report me. Otherwise, I won't do anything with it.
 

Ladyraven

I've seen your member
Oct 24, 2008
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all over the GTA
I have two words......One starts with "F" ..the other is "HIM"....Buncha Crapola!!!It's not the "biz"....Okay ya...losers are everywhere...Same story I went thru....(pm for details)..but its plain and simple BU%% shitz!!! Hope you are okay!!Send that peice of crap my way!!! So MAD right now..this Crap pi$$es me off!!

Anyways..love ya....Hate him!!!He has no bearing... what so ever in his threat!!

xoxo Shauna Sha!!
I am with you wifey.. totally pissed .. she should send us girls his pic for future reference so we know to kick him square in the nuts if he trys to visit any of us.. no matter where we are
 

Brill

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Jun 29, 2008
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Did you say you'd give him a free session or did you call his bluff?
Why did he come over?

You're smart to record him arriving and passing on his info to the other ladies. It's still not too late to report the guy to the cops if you feel comfortable doing this. At least they'd have a record of a complaint about this guy, you never know if he fits into other cases they have on the go and they might be interested in your video.
 

GPIDEAL

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Jun 27, 2010
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I think blackmail is just that, blackmail... whether it's for sex, drugs, money or political favours it's all the same crime...
Sorry to hear it happened to you....
It's also too bad you were not in a position to have him over, get a pic and then post it :)
Other SPs have had johns attempt to blackmail them for free sessions or bareback service.

If you have proof (such as an email), you can nail his ass to the cross. Blackmail or more accurately, extortion, is a serious crime with severe penalties. In Toronto, Wendy Leaver has been called upon to investigate such cases and even made arrests without any problems to the SP (due to LE's intervention, one guy was outed which is a double whammy). I don't know who could help you in Kitchener.
 

far_too_crazy

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You did miss one though, and that's the one that says you can't keep a residence for the purposes of prostitution. Since you're hosting incalls, then technically you're keeping a "common bawdy house". (Now *there's* a 19th-century law for you ... The term "bawdy house", or even the word "bawdy" has disappeared from modern English usage, and yet that law is still on the books with those words ... *groan*.)
Here is one I seem to remember about "Common Bawdy House".... the key here is "Common" implying shared ie. more then one girl working out of it.
Single girl working out of her own home is fairly safe... sharing the house with others leads it to being a gray area since if you are paying for the house out of the money (be it rent or mortgage) any others can be considered living off the avails.
 

GPIDEAL

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Jun 27, 2010
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Here is one I seem to remember about "Common Bawdy House".... the key here is "Common" implying shared ie. more then one girl working out of it.
Single girl working out of her own home is fairly safe... sharing the house with others leads it to being a gray area since if you are paying for the house out of the money (be it rent or mortgage) any others can be considered living off the avails.
No it is not 'fairly safe' as you say since the Cdn Criminal Code specifically defines it as used by one or more persons.

“... a place that is kept or occupied, or resorted to by one or more persons, for the purpose of prostitution or the practice of acts of indecency.”

Also, the plain meaning of the word 'common' includes 'of frequent occurrence', 'widespread' and 'general' which means a place used by many, and that means used by more than one john.
 

SS Sharla

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Nov 1, 2010
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Thank you to everyone who responded. Keyra I appreciate the explaination. I know what it is like when someone hits a hot topic. That happens to me alot. I was quite aware of the laws. I read up pretty good when I first started this. It's not so much the law that I worry about, just the idea of someone causing trouble in my neighbourhood or being "outted".

To answer some of the questions: Yes I did see him for a session. It is certainly open to interpretation whether that was the best move, but I like to see what I am dealing with and as a result got some info on him that I could use if need be.

Yes, I do work from a residential home. I have been busting my ass all month to try to save up money for a different place. In the past year it hasn't made sense for me to get a second place. I have a little more than a few clients who are regulars but the cost to rent a place or work from hotels would pretty much eat up the amount of money I have been making. I decided to post an add in the past two days to raise some money for another place, but it's sad that I have to open myself up to people like this in order to do so. It's a catch 22.
 
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