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No wonder that more and more Nations are listening to the views of the majority of their citizens when they even do this:

How significant is Spain, Norway and Ireland’s recognition of Palestinian state?
Recognitions point to erosion of US ‘ownership’ of Israel-Palestine peace process and open route towards statehood


Using OP's logic are they now "Pro-Hamas" nations?
IRA has always been buddies with PLO. Brothers in terror.
 
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Which is correct.
Yes it is correct that Christianity and Judaism expressly forbid homosexuality just like Islam does.
 

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Yes. Islam, Christianity and Judaism expressly forbid homosexuality.

Islam, Christianity and Judaism expressly forbid gay people. Islam, Christianity and Judaism consider women as second class citizens.

Go ahead, prove that wrong.
Since you dragged Christianity and Judaism in this topic both religion adapts with the current progression...Islam is a long ways...agree or not? Does Islam accept homosexuality equal to Christianity and Judaism?
Be honest...it's a simple question with a yes or no answer.
 

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Since you dragged Christianity and Judaism in this topic both religion adapts with the current progression...Islam is a long ways...agree or not? Does Islam accept homosexuality equal to Christianity and Judaism?
Be honest...it's a simple question with a yes or no answer.
Christianity and Judaism has progressed since the dark ages...Islam is still in the dark ages when homosexuals are involved...
Islam is progressing just as much as Christianity and Judaism is as I illustrated above. Christianity and Judaism are not accepting LGBTQ people either. We have Christians here on this board, who are against LGBTQ people or trans rights etc and there is a thread here called the "LGBTQ Hate Thread". And here is Israel's views on LGBTQ people - 56% oppose same sex marriage.

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So clearly, none of these 3 religions are tolerant.

We have enacted laws that are in contravention to religion in order to afford people equal treatment, because we are secular. You are conflating our laws, with religion.

And ALL of this, does not in any way justify GENOCIDE of the Palestinians. "Oh they are conservative, so they need to be mass murdered" is not an argument. If you went by that then should all Trump supporters be sent to the gallows?
 
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Islam is progressing just as much as Christianity and Judaism is as I illustrated above. Christianity and Judaism are not accepting LGBTQ people either. We have Christians here on this board, who are against LGBTQ people or trans rights etc and there is a thread here called the "LGBTQ Hate Thread". And here is Israel's views on LGBTQ people - 56% oppose same sex marriage.

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So clearly, none of these 3 religions are tolerant.

We have enacted laws that are in contravention to religion in order to afford people equal treatment, because we are secular. You are conflating our laws, with religion.

And ALL of this, does not in any way justify GENOCIDE of the Palestinians. "Oh they are conservative, so they need to be mass murdered" is not an argument. If you went by that then should all Trump supporters be sent to the gallows?
opposing same sex marriage isn't opposing homosexuality... sure some sacraments from religions are interpreted differently...at the end of the day...there's one religion that opposes homosexuality and still punishes homosexuals by death...which one is it?
 

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Islam is progressing just as much as Christianity and Judaism is as I illustrated above. Christianity and Judaism are not accepting LGBTQ people either. We have Christians here on this board, who are against LGBTQ people or trans rights etc and there is a thread here called the "LGBTQ Hate Thread". And here is Israel's views on LGBTQ people - 56% oppose same sex marriage.

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So clearly, none of these 3 religions are tolerant.
take your pick if you're a homo...where to exercise your rights...
 
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opposing same sex marriage isn't opposing homosexuality... sure some sacraments from religions are interpreted differently...at the end of the day...there's one religion that opposes homosexuality and still punishes homosexuals by death...which one is it?
No. ALL Religions outright oppose homosexuality. Christianity, Islam and Judaism, all fundamentally forbid homosexuality and call it a sin. Religions are not tolerant or inclusive. What you are referring to are laws. We have LGBTQ laws that are enacted in contravention to religious principles, in order to provide equal rights to people. And from that standpoint there are nations like Russia, that are staunchly Christian and where LGBTQ is illegal .
take your pick if you're a homo...
That is a homophobic comment.
 

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you can't asnwer it...take a pick where to live if you're a homosexual...honest question deserves an honest answer...
I would definitely not choose to live in a CHRISTIAN country like Russia, where the LAWS make it illegal for me to be gay.
 
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I would definitely not choose to live in a CHRISTIAN country like Russia, where the LAWS make it illegal for me to be gay.
Um...Russia making gay illegal has nothing to do with Christianity...try again...
I gave you the links...
are gays safer in Israel compared to it's neighbors?
 
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Um...Russia making gay illegal has nothing to do with Christianity...try again...
I gave you the links...
are gays safer in Israel compared to it's neighbors?
It is an orthodox Christian country Rich that has always been hostile towards LGBTQ on account of religious conservatism. Case closed.
 

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Um...Russia making gay illegal has nothing to do with Christianity...try again...
I gave you the links...
are gays safer in Israel compared to it's neighbors?
It is an orthodox Christian country Rich that has always been hostile towards LGBTQ on account of religious conservatism. Case closed.
You didn't answer his question...
 

Kautilya

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You didn't answer his question...
It depends.

Right now? They are safer in Israel of course, because in Gaza they are being genocided and carpet bombed.

In peace time, they are safer in Gaza, than in Israel where they may be illegally detained, subject to violence etc.,
 

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It is an orthodox Christian country Rich that has always been hostile towards LGBTQ on account of religious conservatism. Case closed.
Case close to what? Putin made it illegal not Christianity...meanwhile Igays are executed in the name of Islam...still you will not answer if this is true or not....
 
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Bill? Woke? LOL. Bill has never been woke left. He has always been moderate or libertarian. He has always made Islamophobic comments too. I have never liked and I suspect no on one on the left has ever liked Maher either.
Trump haters love him.
 

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Case close to what? Putin made it illegal not Christianity...meanwhile Igays are executed in the name of Islam...still you will not answer if this is true or not....
Their conservatism is derived from religion. The same way conservatism in the Muslim world, is derived from religion. It was due to religion that LGBTQ people were not accepted here in the west. Both Russia and the middle eastern countries have LAWS that make homosexuality illegal.
Every religion and culture does.
This is correct.
 

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Yes. Islam, Christianity and Judaism expressly forbid homosexuality.

Islam, Christianity and Judaism expressly forbid gay people. Islam, Christianity and Judaism consider women as second class citizens.

Go ahead, prove that wrong.
And what religion and culture doesn't have a history of those.
 

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And what religion and culture doesn't have a history of those.
That is what am saying. Every religion has a history of it and every religion as a matter of religious text, considers homosexuality to be a sin.
 
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