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Bill C-36 tabled (New Prostitution Law)

lovelatinas

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Harper is a member of the Christian and Missionary Alliance church
Yep. And he is enforcing his religious and moral believes into law and down our throat. This what you get when you elect a Religious fanatic. Next, No more Porn, next no more strip clubs, next more same sex marriages, next more Pride Parades to fight for same sex marriage. Congrats Canada we have Adolf Harper as the elect dictator.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Prime_Ministers_of_Canada_by_religious_affiliation
 

Mencken

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SCC ruled the status quo unconstitutional. So what was the government to do? Making provision and procurement of sex legal would be tantamount to legalizing prostitution, which this government (or any other) wasn't about to do. So the Nordic model was the best available option. Now, providers and consumers simply have to adapt to the new environment, which shouldn't be that difficult.

Terb should be able to continue operating but devoid of mention of any sexual activities. Advertisers can no longer post BBBJ, CIM and other activities. Agencies will offer only companionship and (yes) massage services by naked ladies. Reviews of sessions should be prohibited. Prolific posters who don't seem to hobby should have a field day for Terb will become a heart warming domain.

Like I said before, everybody just take a deep breath and relax. The world is not coming to an end. One thing: this coming bill is meant to intimidate clients. From the comments posted so far, the bill has already succeeded in that respect. Brilliant.
Prostitution has been legal in Canada for a number of years. So the issue was not about legalizing it. It is, or should have been, about dealing with some of the negative aspects while not putting sex workers lives at risk.
 

MissElizabeth

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Unless the government wants to spend millions of dollars and many months cleaning up the internet, I would suspect that all ads will remain on the internet forever. Now if they are willing to spend that kind of money and time on deleting every little thing about escorting, the advertising part of the law is going to be hard to enforce unless it is so very blatant that it can't be missed. Just type in a number, a name and/or the words escort with city and all past advertising will pop up on the screen.
 

D-Fens

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Yes it is, anyone is free to view it.
I imagine it won't be that case for long. Only long time members will have access. Fred and his group are already considering moving the site to a server out of the country.

TERB will go underground.
 

Mencken

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I don't think there is any concern for forum sites or porn sites or the Toronto Sun ...unless I misread the bill.

It won't be the advertising host, it would be the advertiser LE wants. Its not too inconceivable for LE to have a court order asking for TERB to turn over the details they have about the person(s) who placed the ad...
Dechert said during the interview that one of the intents of this is to eliminate newspaper advertising for sexual services.
 

lovelatinas

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Dechert said during the interview that one of the intents of this is to eliminate newspaper advertising for sexual services.
The Newspapers and media will challenge it, stating it's unconstitutional. Hopefully soon.
 

Insidious Von

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I may not be as informed as I should be but I find this bill laughable. The most frequent users of SPs are MPs, will Ottawa be exempt from this law? That city is an excruciatingly dull place to be stuck in. Without SPs, MPs will be tearing their hair and eyes out with boredom. If this law is rigidly enforced expect Pier 6 brawls in the House of Commons.

Do these idiots understand the Pandora's Box they are opening up? Apparently Sweden's reactionary prostitution laws isn't working well for Swedish women:

http://www.thelocal.se/20140305/sweden-out-top-in-eu-domestic-violence-league

Wouldn't the simplest solution be the Italian model - make sex work part of the GDP?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564600/Italian-prostitutes-demand-allowed-pay-taxes-despite-thousands-Italians-taking-streets-protest-high-taxation.html
 

asterwald

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I may not be as informed as I should be but I find this bill laughable. The most frequent users of SPs are MPs, will Ottawa be exempt from this law? That city is an excruciatingly dull place to be stuck in. Without SPs, MPs will be tearing their hair and eyes out with boredom. If this law is rigidly enforced expect Pier 6 brawls in the House of Commons.

Do these idiots understand the Pandora's Box they are opening up? Apparently Sweden's reactionary prostitution laws isn't working well for Swedish women:

http://www.thelocal.se/20140305/sweden-out-top-in-eu-domestic-violence-league

Wouldn't the simplest solution be the Italian model - make sex work part of the GDP?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564600/Italian-prostitutes-demand-allowed-pay-taxes-despite-thousands-Italians-taking-streets-protest-high-taxation.html

I just met an SP today who told me that exact truth. Politicians frequented her when she toured Ottawa I was like what? no way.
 

Insidious Von

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ROTFLMAO!

Politicians in Ottawa have been frequenting SP's since Lord Durham ran the place.

A word to anyone who wants to hobby in Italy, although I've never done so myself. If you negotiate service, do the deed then decide not to pay, you will be charged with rape and prosecuted accordingly. So behave yourself.
 

lovelatinas

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I may not be as informed as I should be but I find this bill laughable. The most frequent users of SPs are MPs, will Ottawa be exempt from this law? That city is an excruciatingly dull place to be stuck in. Without SPs, MPs will be tearing their hair and eyes out with boredom. If this law is rigidly enforced expect Pier 6 brawls in the House of Commons.

Do these idiots understand the Pandora's Box they are opening up? Apparently Sweden's reactionary prostitution laws isn't working well for Swedish women:

http://www.thelocal.se/20140305/sweden-out-top-in-eu-domestic-violence-league

Wouldn't the simplest solution be the Italian model - make sex work part of the GDP?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564600/Italian-prostitutes-demand-allowed-pay-taxes-despite-thousands-Italians-taking-streets-protest-high-taxation.html
Maybe this bill is used to catch Liberal and NDP MPs in the act. We'll see when first MP to get caught and if it's Liberal or NDP. Perhaps that's the Conservatives agenda.
 

lovelatinas

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So it comes down to if the police will enforce the law once the bill is passed. What we need is Rob Ford Re-Elected to cut the police budget (save tax payers money) so LE will have limited resources to run stings and raids.
 

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#CanadianSwingers to get swept up in proposed new #prostitution law by criminalizing ALL sexual advertising! @CAPC2011 @funinCGY @pivotlegal
 

james t kirk

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Stephen Harper is a cold distant emotionless man.

No wonder his wife left him during the Calgary Olympics for another woman
 

drlove

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The doctor is in
Stephen Harper is a cold distant emotionless man.

No wonder his wife left him during the Calgary Olympics for another woman
LOL! I'll bet Mackay's not getting any either, so he introduced this bill so we could share his pain! :p
 

fuji

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So it comes down to if the police will enforce the law once the bill is passed. What we need is Rob Ford Re-Elected to cut the police budget (save tax payers money) so LE will have limited resources to run stings and raids.
They will do what they have always done: run sweeps a couple of times a year, catch thirty or forty guys, make a big media production about it. Sucks if you are one of the thirty or forty guys.

And don't think you are immune just because you use a discrete agency or independent. They can easily raid the condo a well reviewed SP is working from, then arrest all her appointments one by one as they show up for the rest of the evening. They just book as her first client of the day to get into her unit and then arrest the rest as they show up.

Will they do that constantly? No. Just often enough to get into the papers a couple times a year.
 

KBear

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No person shall be prosecuted under sec 286.4 in relation to the advertisement of their own sexual services.
You as an escort won't be prosecuted, but the person hosting your ad will be. Think you could have a website hosted it in the US but you could have a hard time promoting it anywhere in Canada.

It seems they have basically put prostitution in the same category as drug sales, except the escorts/victims won't be charged. No one is going to run an ad promoting drug sales, could become the same for escort services. Drugs are still sold, just not openly on the internet or in print.

Is this change in the law being discussed on the US boards?
 
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