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Bill C-36 tabled (New Prostitution Law)

funliness

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So you allow a "pride" parade with have naked men dressed as women hugging, kissing and imitating sex acts in public for all the kids of the world to see and you don't let a girl advertise her services? That's bs! Besides the ads don't just pop up you have to kook for it. What they are trying to do with the bill is to make this kind of equality: sex worker = victim = exploitation simply because some overly educated, removed from reality bookworms believe that this is so.

What's next restricting access to porn sites? ALL the kids can see it, no age check

I do not believe that PUBLIC nudity should be condoned as I feel it is inappropriate for minors to see. I heard they may be cracking down on this in 2014.

See nikki2's post about the law's approach to advertising in relation to those less than 18 years. The problem is that this mainstream approach to promoting has been available to anyone without 'having to look for it' as you say- open up a now (or similar) magazine, walk along certain very-public or non-industrial streets. The industry has made a mistake here by not adhering to discretion and being too 'public' with advertising or opening shop. The public is concerned about the impact on minors and the gov't has capitalized it seems.
 

james t kirk

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This might not be bad at all for us. It’s says nothing about what we do in private.

I like the fact a pimp will no longer be able to have a couple of young girls, stuck in a days inn for days, seeing a revolving door of clients. Also, they will no longer be able to communicate via back page etc.

I also see reputable agencies creating individual WebPages for their girls and taking care of their logistics behind the scenes. Indies are fine.

I also anticipate a lot of girls simply hanging out in bars and hotel bars, similar to Vegas. These type of girls are not always street walkers, they are classier and discreet, we’ll be able to chat and go to a private place to discuss what mutual companionship works.
Are you kidding me?

Hanging out in hotel bars? Similar to Vegas?

I don't think so. If I'm the manager of the Royal York, I don't want working girls "hanging out" in the hotel bar. (I think he (or she) would much prefer the system that is in place now.)

Also, there will be no "behind the scenes". No such thing. LE will go right to "behind the scenes" when their politician masters tell them to enforce the laws. Just because you think an agency is "reputable" (whatever that means - the dog food diner at Bathurst and Dupont has been reputable since 1954 and it's right on their sign) doesn't mean that LE will see them as anything other than a bunch of pimps to be busted and shut down (thus protecting the victims who are currently working for them [sarcasm]).

If the owner of any so called "reputable" escort agency lives in Canada and is marketing sexual services in one form or another, he or she is going to get busted hard and thrown in jail. Count on it.

Even if the owners move to the so called dark internet, LE will still find them and still shut them down.
 

M4F

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what are the real polls (vs the nonsense online being posted here) on the topic on Canada?OTB
From my post last night:

Seems like MacKay got a heads-up from Justice officials about a $175,000 survey on public attitudes toward prostitution
that the government funded but the results didn't fit his political agenda and so he buried it.:

"...As La Presse revealed Wednesday, a $175,000 survey on public attitudes toward prostitution was commissioned by the government but Mr. MacKay was warned in a memo by Justice officials in January that the results may contradict government policy. The report was promptly shelved and the results won’t be published until the new bill has been sent to committee.

Instead, the government published an online consultation that fit with its preferred result – a majority suggesting the purchase of sexual services should be an offence."


http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...ays-prostitution-law-a-failure-on-all-counts/
 

BlueLaser

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I have an 18+ disclaimer on the home page, but I could password protect it.

I don't think their intention is to ban all porn, it's about images, videos etc that are used for advertising.

Plenty of porn on the internet has nothing to do with prostitution.
I don't think a disclaimer makes it private. I suspect you'd need a password.
 

elise

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Are you kidding me?

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Even if the owners move to the so called dark internet, LE will still find them and still shut them down.
They are a third party and are unfortunately seen as pimps. Don't think they could be classified as bodyguards either. If charged, the courts again would be the ones that interpret what they are, but they will be shut down until it is resolved which can take years.

Unless they move out of Canada with their website they are directly in the crosshairs.
 

HappynSmiling

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I don't think a disclaimer makes it private. I suspect you'd need a password.
Not only would you need a password but also a way to determine that the user is 18+, plus you would have to prove that the use proved that he/she is 18+, which implies keeping a record of some kind of id.

To be honest I think everything will be just the way it is now, at least for proper operators, but they will want to make sure that they don't let a some nut job near their agency (like the one that was posting addresses the other day). I just search for escorts in Sweden and there are plenty of sites advertising despite their tough laws. Having said that, people proposing such laws must be 40 year old virgins or something :)
 

elise

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Ok glad that post disappeared.


Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning…

Can't tell if your a male or a female, not that it matters.
Nothing you wrote is believable except maybe for the Kathleen Wynne thing.

...Crawl back into your hole.
 

Viggo Rasmussen

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easy enough, already discussed with my webmaster. I can have a basic page with my fully clothed, no porn type images, a list of required information and contact details. It will show that I've been verified on both Preferred411 and TER.

Once I have met a gentleman he can be provided with a password for access to my entire site, pics, reviews and my schedule. That way nobody I don't already know would have access to my location, images, or my detailed reviewed, which could be viewed advertising for the purpose of prostitution.
I don't think you need to change anything, it will still be legal to be an escort and sell your services. But those changes won't hurt.
I think the big concern is how terb and agencies will be affected.
 

elise

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Just investigating this would be a nightmare for LE, as they would have to interpret 286.2 (1):



Way too much time and resources needed to investigate this. It's even conceivable that under this new model, 286.2 (5) (e) would not even apply to them.

I agree its confusing and a mess. The agencies would also be advertising on their website which could be seen as promoting activity…

I think the first cases you will see are the agencies rounded up and tossed to the courts and prosecutors to sort out. Happens all the time. If there is an acquittal it is usually ignored by the media as a footnote.
 

BlueLaser

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easy enough, already discussed with my webmaster. I can have a basic page with my fully clothed, no porn type images, a list of required information and contact details. It will show that I've been verified on both Preferred411 and TER.

Once I have met a gentleman he can be provided with a password for access to my entire site, pics, reviews and my schedule. That way nobody I don't already know would have access to my location, images, or my detailed reviewed, which could be viewed advertising for the purpose of prostitution.
Your first sentence still sounds like advertising though, no?
 

elise

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Terb is not public.
I would respectfully disagree. A newspaper would be considered public. Terb's escort agency advertising page does not require logging on to view so it could be viewed by the public and classified as public.
 
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