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Kaplan has also pointed to the size of the jury's sexual abuse award − more than $2 million − as bolstering his conclusion that the verdict was based on finding Trump forcibly penetrated Carroll with his hand.

And that act, in common modern speech, is rape, Kaplan said.

As he later summed it up in August, when he dismissed Trump's countersuit: "It accordingly is the 'truth,' as relevant here, that Mr. Trump digitally raped Ms. Carroll."

 

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Kaplan has also pointed to the size of the jury's sexual abuse award − more than $2 million − as bolstering his conclusion that the verdict was based on finding Trump forcibly penetrated Carroll with his hand.

And that act, in common modern speech, is rape, Kaplan said.

As he later summed it up in August, when he dismissed Trump's countersuit: "It accordingly is the 'truth,' as relevant here, that Mr. Trump digitally raped Ms. Carroll."

Nice try...He was never legally convicted of rape.
 

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Nice try...He was never legally convicted of rape.
Stop making excuses for this criminal:
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rape, unlawful sexual activity, most often involving sexual intercourse, against the will of the victim through force or the threat of force or with an individual who is incapable of giving legal consent because of minor status, mental illness, mental deficiency, intoxication, unconsciousness, or deception. In many jurisdictions, the crime of rape has been subsumed under that of sexual assault. Rape was long considered to be caused by unbridled sexual desire, but it is now understood as a pathological assertion of power over a victim.
So, in other words the "unlawful sexual activity" that involved Trump's fingers in Jean Carroll's vagina, met the criteria of RAPE!!
 

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Nope not rape

Did you not read this sentence:

"The verdict also doesn't mean that Trump didn't rape Carroll. It might mean that the jury didn't believe the assault included penetration, or it could mean they weren't sure or found the evidence not as clear as that for assault, or it could be a compromise verdict."
But of course oracle and the righties believe this from their cult leader:

During the broadcast, Trump said: "This is a fake story, made-up story. I have no idea who the hell she is. She's a wack job."
So, was Trump then telling the truth or lying?
 

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Is his wife Jill behind President Biden staying in the race?...Seems like we're hearing this more and more.
Read some reports that the family wants him to stay in. They are pissed at his advisors who managed and prepped him for the debate. The family didn't like their debate strategy. Of course, it's hearsay until someone is quoted.

What is interesting is why the early June 27 debate. Was it merely the campaign's strategy to demonstrate Biden's vitality? Perhaps they were over confident.

Or.......and this is a big Or, Democratic insiders forced the campaign to debate early and prove Biden's capabilities in advance of the convention. After the convention, it would be close to the point of no return.
 

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Did you not read this sentence:

"The verdict also doesn't mean that Trump didn't rape Carroll. It might mean that the jury didn't believe the assault included penetration, or it could mean they weren't sure or found the evidence not as clear as that for assault, or it could be a compromise verdict."
Beav, you have to help me here. I don't think anyone disagrees with the Cornell Law Professor's statement. What is the big point you are making?

I think sometimes you have to step back, try to read words without bias and look at clever wordsmithing. Just appreciate it and realize it doesn't advance a clear argument.
 
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Read some reports that the family wants him to stay in. They are pissed at his advisors who managed and prepped him for the debate. The family didn't like their debate strategy. Of course, it's hearsay until someone is quoted.

What is interesting is why the early June 27 debate. Was it merely the campaign's strategy to demonstrate Biden's vitality? Perhaps they were over confident.

Or.......and this is a big Or, Democratic insiders forced the campaign to debate early and prove Biden's capabilities in advance of the convention. After the convention, it would be close to the point of no return.
Whatever strategy the richest country on earth is now stuck with a candidate way too old and incapacitated for the job. And another one who is a lifetime fraud who is not afraid to bypass any law and posess zero morale or humanity.

That is the reality. I still prefer Bidden as his team can handle the task on his behalf.
 
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A masterclass lol...
Newsom has to be careful to not be critical of Biden.

Newsom certainly has a team ready to go. I would expect given his stature as the Governor of California he has on speed dial every big Democratic donor.

You will see a masterclass from Newsom.
 

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Which fact checker said that Trump did not digitally rape E. Jean Caroll? He was literally found liable for "SEXUALLY ABUSING and defaming" Caroll. Nice try.
You are wrong.

In this CIVIL case, the jury did not believe that Trump's sexual assault of E. Jean Carrol amounted to the legal definition of "rape". They categorized it "sexual assault".

And toads using the words "felony rape", "felony this and that" watched too much Law and Order TV. This was a civil trial, not a criminal trial.

Nonetheless "grabbing her by the pussy" is despicable and the jury sent the message to Trump that not only did they believe he likely committed this assault, and it came with financial consequences. The Jury also said they did not believe his public denials and that calling Carrol a liar and opportunistic fraud artist were therefore slanderous.

And the second time the big mouthed fuckwit said so, they sent an $80 million dollar message that his continuation to do so would continue to have consequences.

I don't engage with you and Frankie much anymore because of things like this. You don't stick to waht is in front of you. You need to jazz things up a bit too much and put words and meanings into other people's mouths that are deliberately (or stupidly, if you have comprehension issues) misleading.

While we share similar opinions on politics and world events, you two are debasing yourselves into MAGA'tards, just with a different agenda.
 
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I think @Kautilya got a ban because he hasn't been around since Saturday, and its unlike him to not make 50 posts a day
 
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You are wrong.

In this CIVIL case, the jury did not believe that Trump's sexual assault of E. Jean Carrol amounted to the legal definition of "rape". They categorized it "sexual assault".

And toads using the words "felony rape", "felony this and that" watched too much Law and Order TV. This was a civil trial, not a criminal trial.

Nonetheless "grabbing her by the pussy" is despicable and the jury sent the message to Trump that not only did they believe he likely committed this assault, and it came with financial consequences. The Jury also said they did not believe his public denials and that calling Carrol a liar and opportunistic fraud artist were therefore slanderous.

And the second time the big mouthed fuckwit said so, they sent an $80 million dollar message that his continuation to do so would continue to have consequences.

I don't engage with you and Frankie much anymore because of things like this. You don't stick to waht is in front of you. You need to jazz things up a bit too much and put words and meanings into other people's mouths that are deliberately (or stupidly, if you have comprehension issues) misleading.

While we share similar opinions on politics and world events, you two are debasing yourselves into MAGA'tards, just with a different agenda.
This post sums it up nicely...
 
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Newsom has to be careful to not be critical of Biden.

Newsom certainly has a team ready to go. I would expect given his stature as the Governor of California he has on speed dial every big Democratic donor.

You will see a masterclass from Newsom.
How do you see him doing in the swing states though?...Cause that's all that matters.
 
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