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Bibi Wins, Two State Solution Dies?

Frankfooter

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You are SO FUCKING DISHONEST, you cut that sentence short and took it out of context. He said a Palestinian state want CURRENTLY POSSIBLE, he also said he supports one.

You know he said that because I gave you the full quote.
I'll give you the link again.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-election-2015/1.647212

He said:
"I think that anyone who moves to establish a Palestinian state and evacuate territory gives territory away to radical Islamist attacks against Israel," Netanyahu said. "The left has buried its head in the sand time and after time and ignores this, but we are realistic and understand."

There was no mention of it just being 'current', no time frame at all, just a promise to never allow a Palestinian state.
The other stuff you keep adding was his attempt to cover his ass, but nobody buys it.

As the New York Times said:
"In the days since the Israeli election, Mr. Netanyahu has been denounced for two statements he made toward the conclusion: his assertion that no Palestinian state would be established on his watch, and his alarm over voting by Israeli Arab citizens. He has been trying, with limited success, to backpedal on both."
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/24/w...es-for-comments-about-israeli-arabs.html?_r=0

Who is the one lying here?
When will you apologize?
 

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I'll give you the link again.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-election-2015/1.647212

He said:
"I think that anyone who moves to establish a Palestinian state and evacuate territory gives territory away to radical Islamist attacks against Israel," Netanyahu said. "The left has buried its head in the sand time and after time and ignores this, but we are realistic and understand."

There was no mention of it just being 'current', no time frame at all, just a promise to never allow a Palestinian state.
The other stuff you keep adding was his attempt to cover his ass, but nobody buys it.

As the New York Times said:
"In the days since the Israeli election, Mr. Netanyahu has been denounced for two statements he made toward the conclusion: his assertion that no Palestinian state would be established on his watch, and his alarm over voting by Israeli Arab citizens. He has been trying, with limited success, to backpedal on both."
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/24/w...es-for-comments-about-israeli-arabs.html?_r=0

Who is the one lying here?
When will you apologize?
Haaretz did not give you the full quote, but an edited quote. Here it is unedited by left-leaning anti-Netanhahu Haaretz:

"I think anyone who is going to build a Palestinian state today will be freeing up space to give an attack area to radical Islam against Israel. This is the reality created here in recent years. Anyone who ignores this sticks his head in the sand. The left does this, burying its head in the sand again and again. We are realistic and understand"

And in case there is any doubt about what Netanyahu meant, he was asked, and answered:

[size=+5]"I don't want a one-state solution. I want a sustainable, peaceful two-state solution,"[/size]

I have shown you that quote a half dozen times so you know that is what he thinks -- you just find it more useful to lie, because your entire world view is incompatible with truth.
 

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FRankfooter, it looks that you agree that two state solutions is dead. Do you support one state solution ?
A one state solution is impossible, for the exact same reasons why a two state solution is not currently viable -- violent, racist Arab aggression. You can't take an anti-Jew militia like Hamas and put it into one state with Israel and expect the result to be anything other than a massive civil war with an incredible number of dead civilians. It's just stupid, and no-one sane is ever going to agree with it. No one sane even proposes it.

The only people who do fantasize about it are vile racists who probably jerk off dreaming about Jews being slaughtered.
 

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A one state solution is impossible, for the exact same reasons why a two state solution is not currently viable -- violent, racist Arab aggression. You can't take an anti-Jew militia like Hamas and put it into one state with Israel and expect the result to be anything other than a massive civil war with an incredible number of dead civilians. It's just stupid, and no-one sane is ever going to agree with it. No one sane even proposes it
QFT.

This is why I will always support Israel.
They are the only sane people in that whole mid-east, sandbox shithole
 

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You can't take an anti-Jew militia like Hamas and put it into one state with Israel and expect the result to be anything other than a massive civil war with an incredible number of dead civilians. It's just stupid, and no-one sane is ever going to agree with it. No one sane even proposes it.
Exactly.
 

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FRankfooter, it looks that you agree that two state solutions is dead. Do you support one state solution ?
Too bad the Palestinian people overwhelmingly reject a one state solution. Buy I guess in your mind anything that harms Israel is fine, even if the Palestinians hate it.
 

basketcase

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QFT.

This is why I will always support Israel.
They are the only sane people in that whole mid-east, sandbox shithole
I don't know about sane but sure have a better system than the rest of the region.
 

Frankfooter

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Haaretz did not give you the full quote, but an edited quote. Here it is unedited by left-leaning anti-Netanhahu Haaretz:

"I think anyone who is going to build a Palestinian state today will be freeing up space to give an attack area to radical Islam against Israel. This is the reality created here in recent years. Anyone who ignores this sticks his head in the sand. The left does this, burying its head in the sand again and again. We are realistic and understand"

I have shown you that quote a half dozen times so you know that is what he thinks -- you just find it more useful to lie, because your entire world view is incompatible with truth.
What you keep posting is his post election attempt to mend fences.
What he said to get himself elected is what he's been doing ever since he's been in power, as the US clearly understands.

I really don't care that much about this issue, but your continual accusations that I am lying over the issue are annoying.
You should have apologized when you first claimed that Netanyahu never said he wouldn't allow a two state solution.

He said it, he meant it.
Obama says so, why won't you admit it?

“We’ve taken [Netanyahu] at his word when he said that it wouldn’t happen during his prime ministership, and so that’s why we’ve got to evaluate what other options are available to make sure that we don’t see a chaotic situation in the region,” Obama said Friday.

http://www.msnbc.com/all/obama-holds-netanyahu-pre-election-promise

You can't un-promise something so extreme.
Now that he's been exposed as someone who won't allow a two state solution, there's no going back.
 

Frankfooter

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Considering your planet portrays Hamas as innocent victims, I don't think you have any credibility.
I don't want to wade that deep into this cesspool.
I'll just stay until I get fuji to apologize for calling me a liar for posting a quote from Netanyahu.

You can debate Hamas yourself while you boys jerk each other off over the prospects for the country.
I stepped in for a minute and really would rather just be looking at ads and reading reviews.
 

basketcase

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I don't want to wade that deep into this cesspool.
Bullshit. You've been posting relentlessly about how evil Israel is yet went so far as to justify Hamas.

And if anyone is going to apologize, it should be the person who wants to use a partial quote. Netanyahu isn't someone I'd ever vote for but he sure is better than who the Palestinians voted for last time that the PA and Hamas allowed one.

The reason there isn't a peace deal is mainly because the major Palestinian factions refuse to give up on their openly genocidal goal.
 

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What you keep posting is his post election attempt to mend fences.
What he said to get himself elected is what he's been doing ever since he's been in power, as the US clearly understands.

I really don't care that much about this issue, but your continual accusations that I am lying over the issue are annoying.
You should have apologized when you first claimed that Netanyahu never said he wouldn't allow a two state solution.

He said it, he meant it.
Obama says so, why won't you admit it?

“We’ve taken [Netanyahu] at his word when he said that it wouldn’t happen during his prime ministership, and so that’s why we’ve got to evaluate what other options are available to make sure that we don’t see a chaotic situation in the region,” Obama said Friday.

http://www.msnbc.com/all/obama-holds-netanyahu-pre-election-promise

You can't un-promise something so extreme.
Now that he's been exposed as someone who won't allow a two state solution, there's no going back.
[size=+5]"I don't want a one-state solution. I want a sustainable, peaceful two-state solution,"[/size]

You are a pathetic lying clown.
 

fuji

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I have no idea what planet you live on, but on this one I'll take Obama's opinion over fuji's.
Never mind opinions, Netanyahu's clearly stated why a Palestinian state is currently not an option and furthermore stated that he hopes it will be in the future.

That is a fact, whether or not you like it.
 

Frankfooter

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Never mind opinions, Netanyahu's clearly stated why a Palestinian state is currently not an option .

That's a start.
You need to apologize for calling me a liar for quoting Netanyahu and Obama.


“We’ve taken [Netanyahu] at his word when he said that it wouldn’t happen during his prime ministership, and so that’s why we’ve got to evaluate what other options are available to make sure that we don’t see a chaotic situation in the region,” Obama said Friday.

http://www.msnbc.com/all/obama-holds...ection-promise
 

fuji

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That's a start.
You need to apologize for calling me a liar for quoting Netanyahu and Obama.


“We’ve taken [Netanyahu] at his word when he said that it wouldn’t happen during his prime ministership, and so that’s why we’ve got to evaluate what other options are available to make sure that we don’t see a chaotic situation in the region,” Obama said Friday.

http://www.msnbc.com/all/obama-holds...ection-promise
You blatantly lied and said Netanyahu doesn't support there ever being a Palestinian state, even when you were shown a quote where he explicitly supports a Palestinian state. You can't wiggle off that that hook, everyone can see what you are.

Obama merely noted that it wouldn't happen during his prime ministership. You went further and lied and said he doesn't support one.

[size=+5]"I don't want a one-state solution. I want a sustainable, peaceful two-state solution,"[/size]

You are a pathetic lying clown.
 

Frankfooter

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You blatantly lied and said Netanyahu doesn't support there ever being a Palestinian state.
That is not what I said.
I said he was elected on a promise to never allow a Palestinian state as long as he was the leader of Israel.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-election-2015/1.647212

This is getting stupid.
Who else are you calling liars on this issue?
Netanyahu? Obama? The press?

Just admit you are wrong and apologize.
 

fuji

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So you now agree that in the long term Netanyahu supports a Palestinian state, and that his objection to one during his term in office is based only on current conditions?
 
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