Beer can tosser got fired ?
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A public media company has their profits based on the public reputation and perception of their personalities. If those personalities ruin their public reputation then they are detrimental to the company.
And yes, Billy Bush didn't break any laws but he made the company look bad and was therefore fired. A company like Postmedia will have enough lawyers on retainer to make sure they did it properly.
And yes, Billy Bush didn't break any laws but he made the company look bad and was therefore fired. A company like Postmedia will have enough lawyers on retainer to make sure they did it properly.
Yea he probably quit because he was offered a better job. (I don't think so )
The funny part is, I had a colleague in the same section who witnessed a girl around him launch the beer can like a Kareem skyhook. Dude's lawyer will have a field day just you watch. Sad for him that his name is currently being dragged through mud.
I'm sure he has a perfectly valid reason for leaving 3/4 of the way through the game, right after the can was tossed. My guess is the cops have more evidence than just the videos we've seen, but we'll have to wait until his court date.
Agree with most of the comments in this thread, I.e. firing without cause and severance. The concerning issue is of what relevance is it where someone works? That seems to be a factor that the media choose to report frequently but I can't see how being an asshole at a baseball game relates to where one works?
Yet if you are a public figure (which this guy was) then your actions in public have direct bearing on your job.
Agree with that, I was not aware that this guy was a public figure. So how about the guy who harassed the reporter at a TFC game this summer. If I remember correctly he worked for Bell and lost his job. I have no concern if the media reveal his name and the employer reacts when they see his (or her) name mentioned in a report. However I think the reporter mentioned it in the first report. That is my struggle. Hobbling carries certain risks of being outed, I'd hate to see guys loosing their jobs if a 'common bawdy house" were raided.
Unless he was a high level sales rep, I don't think he should have been fired for that incident on it's own. It's possible that type of behaviour also affected his work and the video was the last straw. If that's the case it seems reasonable, otherwise I would disagree with the precedent. But as has been said, as long as they gave him appropriate severance and it complies with whatever is in their contract then it's their choice.
If where you work never becomes widely known to the general public, it's usually not an issue. But when the company you work for now has it's name trotted out by the media, you've now attracted a negative perception towards your company (rightly or wrongly). And for that your company may decide you're more trouble than you're worth. That's what happened in this case (probably made worse by the fact his company is directly involved in sports).
Case law continues to evolve but it's becoming quite clear you can lose your job for doing something in your private life that negatively affects the image of the company you work for. Remember, you're employed at the whim of your employer. If they want to be rid of you, all they need to do is provide the proper notice and/or pay the proper severance/termination pay. Give them a good reason and it may be an easy decision for them to make.
You've been warned.
You'd be surprised at the number of U.S. companies that say they do a thorough background check, i.e., criminal history, background references, drug testing, etc and don't. Some years back, my son had to have an emergency appendectomy. He had just gotten hired by a major retail employer and was scheduled to start, but had gotten sick in the middle of the night. The hospital does a drug screen prior to surgeries. The nurse came back into the room and said, "you got lucky on your drug screen from your employer." That's when I found out he was pot smoker--no opiates or hallucinogenics.
http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/ken-pagan-beer-toss-toronto-blue-jays/
Interesting story about the beer can tosser on the CBC.
Seems he paid a price for one single act of stupidity.
Interesting story about the beer can tosser on the CBC.
Seems he paid a price for one single act of stupidity.
Thanks for the post. It's a well done story about a very sad case, and the guy seems to have taken a commendable attitude to his own wrongdoing right from the start. I wish him well.
Three things stood out for me: The first is the shamefully slow legal process: It is meant to put an end to bad things, but in this case it is clear it just made things worse, prolonging everyone's pain and anger and needlessly delaying the closure that could have come almost instantly.
The second and third are the obvious: His drinking and anger issues, which the article rather minimizes and his quotes keep private. A few beers before, and beers during the game are enough to get anyone drunk — not in their right mind — and when Stupid Ken Pagan took over from the real one, he aimed a heavy metal beer can at someone he didn't like, who was only doing his job. The real Ken Pagan needs to face that about himself and do something serious about both.
I hope he is and wish him success. Perhaps the article will open some new doors for him.
Contrary to what the article suggests, two friends who've worked with him over the years weren't surprised by what he did. One said "he's not a nice guy by any stretch." The other, upon hearing he was the beer can tosser said "that asshole, doesn't surprise me."
There were probably thousands of drunk people at the game that night, but only one tossed a can onto the field. Sounds like there's something wrong with this guy, other than just being drunk.
There were probably thousands of drunk people at the game that night, but only one tossed a can onto the field. Sounds like there's something wrong with this guy, other than just being drunk.
Indeed. He has work he needs to do. Sorry's good and touches the heart, but it's the beginning, not the end.
