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Gotham_R said:
What you did again is the classic mansplaining " Most men do have compassion, would recommend women take precautions against creeps etc., "
Invalidating the women's emotions, experiences and feelings and not listening. That's the whole point. I don't know how many times I have to say this. Always invalidating ands shifting blame. A lot of men are also sooo clueless of how their behavior affects others. I could right essays about how clueless men are and this is as a man who has known a lot of men of different backgrounds.
Again, if you don't think this applies to you, move on. This isn't about you. This is about the bad ones. Why run defense for them?

You guys are free to do whatever you want regardless of how the women (that you want to date and f*ck) feel or think about you. Good luck dudes.
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It was a generalized, all men are trash for clickbait post that happened to go viral. The reason it went viral is because from a logical standpoint men are not a big a threat but from a feelings standpoint some women think they are.

And that is why some women need men to protect them(I'm sure there are many women who have enough logic to see the stupidity of choosing the bear). Its from their own decision making fails that places them is dangerous situations.
 
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Gotham_R said:
Cishet (straight) men are so funny to me. They see woman choose a bear over them and go "women be crazy". Not an ounce of self-reflection, self-awareness or empathy.
The bar is SOOO low and women are clearly saying men still can't meet it. If you ask most women, they either have their own horror stories with men or know someone who has one. So there is a reason for this. But these men literally don't give a sh*t and go on the defensive.
TO THE OFFENDED MEN: Maybe these women aren't talking about you man. Stop projecting. There are plenty of bad men out there who have done heinous things and even ONE bad experience is enough to ruin the woman's life. So maybe show a bit of compassion and just listen instead of talking over them. HOLY.
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What's amazing is that these kinds of reactions were the same 30 years ago.
People don't learn.

Gotham_R said:
Bro its very simple. The whole point of this whole thing was: "Men are soo trash that we choose a bear over you. GET GUD."
The guys over here using arithmetic to go on the defensive instead of actually listening. It's fckin hilarious.
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Hilarious? More just kind of sad.
 
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Valcazar said:
Why?

If unspecified women pick bear and then specified women pick bear, you don't have much grounds to claim racism.
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The point was if it had been Said like that suddenly it all changes.

Anyway it was a clickbait interview question designed to get stupid women to say stupid things. I'm sure many women said the opposite and weren't posted. This on street interviews usually get girls with a few drinks in them. Usually the entitled type who are attention whores. They don't represent most females with a lick of common sense.
 
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Butler1000 said:
The point was if it had been Said like that suddenly it all changes.

Anyway it was a clickbait interview question designed to get stupid women to say stupid things. I'm sure many women said the opposite and weren't posted. This on street interviews usually get girls with a few drinks in them. Usually the entitled type who are attention whores. They don't represent most females with a lick of common sense.
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Obviously it was clickbait.
And look how completely men seem to have overreacted.

Like I said at the beginning of the thread, it's pretty pathetic.
 
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Kautilya said:
What about how men feel about it? Is there a rule that men have to always validate everything women feel, even if they are unreasonable, and in the process invalidate their own feelings about something? See how that works? This isn't about the "bad ones". This is a generalized statement that refers to ALL men.

And when women say something unreasonable like this, it needs to be explained to them that their positions are unreasonable. Otherwise you'd be advocating for a world, where women don't talk TO men, but talk AT men, and men just nod along agreeing with everything they say. That isn't how it works.
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Like I said multiple times, it's about understanding why they think this and you can validate something while disagreeing. I validate incel's feelings of loneliness but disagree with their worldview. I do validate men and people of all genders. Many men genuinely don't care about women's grievances and just like you put it "don't talk TO them, but talk AT them". So I understand women's frustrations. It's like talking to a brick wall.
Like @Valcazar put it, women have been complaining about this for decades and men haven't moved an inch.
 
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Valcazar said:
Obviously it was clickbait.
And look how completely men seem to have overreacted.

Like I said at the beginning of the thread, it's pretty pathetic.
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Its a natural reaction for people with common sense to react to stupidity. Kinda like watching bad driving and commenting. Or many other things. The fact is when someone chooses to go online, express an opinion, to not expect return commentary is by far the stupidest thing a person can do. And when its specifically done to illicit a negative reaction, moreso.

I mean, if a man says, "don't get married" because of the 50% divorce rate, and how family court treats them for custody, then watch Women's reaction. Despite the fact its a logical conclusion based on actual real world sutuations. Yet something like this garners white knighting. And perpetuates the fallacy that men are predators.

With no accountability
 
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Gotham_R said:
I don't even know where to begin. Like I said, clueless. Good day to you sir.
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Look up the story of Trevor Bauer. Then look up divorce statistics, who initiates divorce more(answer its 70-80 % women)


Can I go out, do on street interviews that ask, what's more dangerous, getting married, or staying single, have men say getting married, and NOT expect a negative reaction from women
 
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Kautilya said:
But the chances that a man would actually violate you are low in the first place. Say there is a 50/50 chance a man may violate you or not violate you. But a bear would 100% kill you. Why would you choose the worse choice? Why not bet on the 50%?
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The problem is the collective experience of the mass of women.

If it was just one girl and her experiences alone, she may she that 1 in 10 men she personally encountered was bad but the rest were good.

You put the collective of women and all their shared experiences together and you have completely difference perspective

PS. It is not 100% a bear would kill you. Most bear run away at loud noises and want nothing to do with you.
 
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This question posted on the inter webs has done exactly what it was designed to do. Polarize people. Cuz that gets the clicks.
 
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