When I said something like that to him, his reply was, "Show me where I said that we should wait 10 years".
Australian vaccine developer claims 10 years are needed to monitor side-effects
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I'm not saying people should wait. Go ahead and take the vaccine.
I'm saying as soon as a Covid protein vaccine is approved I'll be switching to that one because it has many decades of a proven safety record.
With mRNA vaccines we dont know the long-term side effects yet, thats a fact
All of these folks worried about “long term side effects” of a vaccine that maybe lasts a couple days in the body. How, pray tell, is a molecule that is present for only a couple days, max, going to cause side effects in 10 years? Can anyone name any vaccine where the side effects were not discovered until several months out, let alone years?
Fair point, if arguing that vaccines can be sometimes associated with rare autoimmune side effects, which is pretty much accepted. However 1. those cases were pretty much all within a year and 2. This was a protein based vaccine.
We know that there are numerous conspiracy theories that are rife with regards to the mRNA vaccines. Stuff like how it alters the DNA etc and the long term effects could be devastating.
For the FDA, Health Canada and numerous other Regulatory Bodies to approve such vaccines on a mass scale, does require some strict Protocols to be followed.
I believe these Protocols and subsequent Procedures with results were peer reviewed and had the final approval before being released to the markets.
As I stated once again, that these mRNA / Lipid molecules have a short life span, and the full after effects would have been obvious in the first couple of months at the latest!!
But wasn't a member here touting the safety of protein based vaccines? Novovax's protein vaccine is a new vaccine and therefore it's long-term safety is as unknown as any other new vaccine.
There is a very simple reason for not waiting for testing of Novovax's vaccine, 12 months of covid.
How about the long term effects of recovering from the Covid-19 infection:
Guidance on “Long COVID” as a Disability Under the ADA, Section
Although many people with COVID-19 get better within weeks, some people continue to experience symptoms that can last months after first being infected.
Contracting Covid-19 after taking both the shots of the vaccine, generally the symptoms are mild just like the flu. However, when 10% of those who are mainly unvaccinated that have recovered from the Covid-19 infection, and have long term after effects listed in the above link, then I would rather go with the mRNA vaccine long term effects instead. Whatever, they maybe or may not be!!
Thats simply not true. Long-term effects can still show up many years after a vaccine has been given.
I quote the National Institutes of Health. Link: https://www.jpost.com/health-science/could-an-mrna-vaccine-be-dangerous-in-the-long-term-649253
I highlighted the most important parts in red:
"In order to receive Food and Drug Administration approval, the companies will have to prove there are no immediate or short-term negative health effects from taking the vaccines. But when the world begins inoculating itself with these completely new and revolutionary vaccines, it will know virtually nothing about their long-term effects.
“There is a race to get the public vaccinated, so we are willing to take more risks,” Tal Brosh, head of the Infectious Disease Unit at Samson Assuta Ashdod Hospital, told The Jerusalem Post.
But he acknowledged that there are unique and unknown risks to messenger RNA vaccines, including local and systemic inflammatory responses that could lead to autoimmune conditions.
An article published by the National Center for Biotechnology Information, a division of the National Institutes of Health, said other risks include the bio-distribution and persistence of the induced immunogen expression; possible development of auto-reactive antibodies; and toxic effects of any non-native nucleotides and delivery system components"
I will go by the CDC report on the long term effects:
Long-Term Side Effects Are Unlikely
Serious side effects that could cause a long-term health problem are extremely unlikely following any vaccination, including COVID-19 vaccination. Vaccine monitoring has historically shown that side effects generally happen within six weeks of receiving a vaccine dose. For this reason, the FDA required each of the authorized COVID-19 vaccines to be studied for at least two months (eight weeks) after the final dose. Millions of people have received COVID-19 vaccines, and no long-term side effects have been detected.
CDC continues to closely monitor the safety of COVID-19 vaccines. If scientists find a connection between a safety issue and a vaccine, FDA and the vaccine manufacturer will work toward an appropriate solution to address the specific safety concern (for example a problem with a specific lot, a manufacturing issue, or the vaccine itself).
Safety of COVID-19 Vaccines
Protect yourself by getting vaccinated. COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. Serious safety problems are rare and long-term side effects unlikely (150)
www.cdc.gov
Ahh...... extremely unlikely, but still possible.I will go by the CDC report on the long term effects:
Long-Term Side Effects Are Unlikely
Serious side effects that could cause a long-term health problem are extremely unlikely following any vaccination, including COVID-19 vaccination. Vaccine monitoring has historically shown that side effects generally happen within six weeks of receiving a vaccine dose. For this reason, the FDA required each of the authorized COVID-19 vaccines to be studied for at least two months (eight weeks) after the final dose. Millions of people have received COVID-19 vaccines, and no long-term side effects have been detected.
CDC continues to closely monitor the safety of COVID-19 vaccines. If scientists find a connection between a safety issue and a vaccine, FDA and the vaccine manufacturer will work toward an appropriate solution to address the specific safety concern (for example a problem with a specific lot, a manufacturing issue, or the vaccine itself).
Safety of COVID-19 Vaccines
Protect yourself by getting vaccinated. COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. Serious safety problems are rare and long-term side effects unlikely (150)
Thanks for agreeing with me that side effects are indeed still possible
Look at what the actual inventor of mRNA drugs has to say:
www.wnd.com
Vaccine inventor: 'Fundamentally evil' COVID policies harming children * WorldNetDaily * by Art Moore
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www.wnd.com
Aside from COVID-19, I've been vaccinated against polio, the measles, whooping cough, lockjaw, rubella and mumps.
Side effects from having these vaccinations are that I have never contracted polio, the measles, whooping cough, lockjaw, rubella or the mumps.
Side effects from having these vaccinations are that I have never contracted polio, the measles, whooping cough, lockjaw, rubella or the mumps.
And the hepatitis vaccine, with the same side effects.
Maybe you might get that bald patch on the back of your head. Then you can blast the Covid-19 Vaccines for it.Ahh...... extremely unlikely, but still possible.
Thanks for agreeing with me that side effects are indeed still possible
But keep on sticking to the Conspiracy Theorist Websites with regards to the vaccine. Better tell Trump not to take the booster shot. Okay?
Yet the only example you gave was a protein based vaccine you assured us was the safest.
Oh, the guy who hasn't been involved with them for decades?Look at what the actual inventor of mRNA drugs has to say:
Vaccine inventor: 'Fundamentally evil' COVID policies harming children * WorldNetDaily * by Art Moore
... Read more
Thats correct. Protein based vaccines have a much longer safety history
Yup, thats the guy. Its not like he would forget his craft just because he got older
