Ashley Madison data posted

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Marketing companies are VERY good at linking your IP address to your identity and building a history of your internet usage.

You visit a site and make a purchase. They cookie and record your address and real name from the credit card, which they in turn link to any other browsing history and shopping history for that credit card (like where and when you buy gas and which convenience store you frequent).


Later they see you with their cookie and your IP loading an ad on an unrelated site and link your real name and credit card data to your profile on that unrelated site (maybe terb).

That keep making these links, every time they connect the dots that add more data about you to their profile which in turn helps them connect more dots and link to more of your profile.

Target in the US does this so famously well that they started mailing coupons to a woman for baby products before she even knew she was pregnant, because they found a trend in her internet usage that identified her as likely to be pregnant. (They spend millions researching pregnant women because they found if they can get a new mother to switch to Target for household items when her baby is born they likely have her as a loyal customer at least until the child turns 18).

The next big thing is going to be personalized billboards that show video ads as YOU drive down the highway that are based on an analysis of YOUR internet usage, by linking your online profile to your mobile phone and licence plate and following you with ads as you drive.
 

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Cheating is certainly hurtful and offensive to the cheated on spouse, but cheating in the Western world in 2015 is not criminal. However these "do gooder" hackers are criminals plain and simple.

Further, one wonders if they feel the slightest ownership of the harm likely to result from their data dump.

And no I don't have an Ashley Madison account and don't much care for Ashley Madison.
That's right. Also one caller on a radio show this morning said he and his wife were on Ashley Madison looking for a third partner for threesomes- why should they be exposed?
 

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Marketing companies are VERY good at linking your IP address to your identity and building a history of your internet usage.

You visit a site and make a purchase. They cookie and record your address and real name from the credit card, which they in turn link to any other browsing history and shopping history for that credit card (like where and when you buy gas and which convenience store you frequent).


Later they see you with their cookie and your IP loading an ad on an unrelated site and link your real name and credit card data to your profile on that unrelated site (maybe terb).

That keep making these links, every time they connect the dots that add more data about you to their profile which in turn helps them connect more dots and link to more of your profile.

Target in the US does this so famously well that they started mailing coupons to a woman for baby products before she even knew she was pregnant, because they found a trend in her internet usage that identified her d likely to be pregnant.

The next big thing is going to be personalized billboards that show video ads as YOU drive down the highway that are based on an analysis of YOUR internet usage, by linking your online profile to your mobile phone and licence plate and following you with ads as you drive.

I ordered a Kindle book today from Amazon, which I haven't done in months if not a year. I didn't have to enter my credit card info. After 'checking out' with my virtual shopping cart, the purchase was done. I wanted to use a different credit card, but the transaction was already consummated. I guess I have to go into my profile and select to not save my old credit card info. Not sure if it's a cookie or if it's my profile, I suppose it's the same thing.
 

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That's right. Also one caller on a radio show this morning said he and his wife were on Ashley Madison looking for a third partner for threesomes- why should they be exposed?
I heard another caller talk about his open relationship with his wife, and he also asked why should his privacy be compromised.

Those hackers never heard that expression, "2 wrongs don't make a right".
 

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Does the cookie store your I.P. address too?
Yup!

The webserver admin decides what information to store in a cookie on your pc.. can be everything from IP, time of day, last website visited etc... It's quite invasive which is why companies such as Google and Facebook make so much money on personalized ads and why modern browsers have private browsing modes. Lots of info can me stored and retrieved regardless of where you're browsing from (coffee shop etc...)

The best thing to do if you're going to be doing stuff you don't want traced is to use a dummy email address for those types of things (like a hobby phone) and either use a VPN or your browser's private function.

Oh and whomever asked about a single IP for a city block... Yes it's technically possible but not likely due to NAT limits with ports and what not. Every ISP can do things differently though. Look into proxies for more detail
 

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Was I the only one who got an email a few days ago from Fred saying TERB was hacked?
Haha yup. There'd be a thread or a dozen here if more received the email.
 

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The most interesting question to me is whether ashleymadison will weather this storm and flourish or is a site-wide hack on a site that depends on privacy too damaging?

This is a company that spends millions on advertising. Will the cash cow continue or will they eventually close up shop? Are users today more accepting of hacks of confidential information that this will become a temporary hurdle for ashleymadison?

Major banks and retail stores survive hacks seemingly unscathed.
 

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The most interesting question to me is whether ashleymadison will weather this storm and flourish or is a site-wide hack on a site that depends on privacy too damaging?

This is a company that spends millions on advertising. Will the cash cow continue or will they eventually close up shop? Are users today more accepting of hacks of confidential information that this will become a temporary hurdle for ashleymadison?

Major banks and retail stores survive hacks seemingly unscathed.
Except, when major banks and retail stores get hacked, your name, picture, home/email addresses, sexual preferences along with the fact you have an ad looking for an extramarital affair aren't revealed. Slight difference!
 

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Thank you but I thought I.P. addresses are linked to computers or better yet, accounts. I thought they were unique. Are you saying an ISP can have a single I.P. address for a city block?
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No
Unless you pay extra (for a static IP) your IP is random (reboot your modem and get a new one anytime)

Now for legal reasons, your ISP keeps a record of which goes to who (eg they have 5000 IPs assigned on a given date to each subscriber in that city)
So police can ask who was address XXX on Jul 1st and ISP can pull their records

In GENERAL a cable modem (Rogers/Cogeco) is less random than a dsl modem (Bell/Telus) but still we are talking percentage points here
 

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OK then answer this, how does your bank know when you sign in from a different computer.

Some peoples WiFi are static and never change. Just keep track of your own and you'll see. Sometimes they do change but in the long run. We already discussed a scenario where you can pick up IP and relate it to a person through their email.

I.e. pretend a pretend person, say his name is Peter Fuckay is you neighbor, and let's say you guys share BBQ recipes from time to time. One time Fuckay decides to fuck you over really really good and fuck your wife when you're taking your kids to soccer practice. Somehow you find out..now you have his email and WiFi IP. Now the Ashley Madison hack contains IP addresses or say they target an adult escort review site. Somebody posts the CSV file and for the fuck of it you see Fuckays IP is there by performing a quick search and voila, the match around the same time you exchanged your BBQ recipes...do I need to keep going. You can do a lot of damage with this stuff in the wrong hands. Not spreading panic just keeping it real.
WRONG
Bank knows because they leave tracking info on that computer
Nothing to do with IP address dumbass

Take your laptop from home log into bank
Now head over to local Starbucks and log in again
IP is totally different and bank still knows it is you

Might want to clear your cache and delete cookies and voila bank does not know you anymore

It is funny most of the computer illiterates freaking out over this
The Ashley Madison hack is pretty worthless; credit card numbers are mainly partials, old info (eg expired cards/emails), and some are questioning authenticity of the data (lots of garbage/fake info in the dump)
Even if they had a "chat log" it does not match any personal info (eg you have TeeJay's sexual fantasies.... so what? How do you match it up to who I really am?)
 

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Why is downloading different than viewing a website? How could that website post those records without breaking the law itself?
On a torrent you are also uploading (sharing the data) with others
Unless you disabled the upload part
 

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The database of Ashleymadison is enormous, the potential for financial gain enormous, and there is an ethical basis for the hack - a site charging people who want to leave the site is wrong.
Actually most of AM are fakes (they already settled a lawsuit about creating fake accounts to get men to join)
Database is much smaller than you think

Financial gain? lol how?
Unless you were a total retard and wrote an email like "Hi my name is Jon Smith I live at 23 Any St & my cell is 416-555-5555"
All the leak shows is pictures (which any member can view already) email addresses (most are fakes) and partial credit card numbers (AM already confirmed no credit card info was hacked)

It amazes me how big the media is making this
Way bigger hacks have happened (Target & Sony spring to mind)
Yet the grab for this hack is oh let's see who is cheating!
 

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I don't think most people sign up for AM with real names and email addresses anyways. It's the CC information that's the issue, and that's happened before. Not good, but not the Worst Thing Ever.
AM confirmed NO credit card numbers were compromised
So email address + handles (eg you think I used my real ID signing up for Terb also lol?)
 

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So I downloaded the file

So I downloaded the file and searched it for my own information, I found my old account. The file has my profile information, the fake name I signed up with, and the throw-away email address I used. My real name does not appear anywhere in the dump. So I'm good.

But I can confirm a few things having searched through the data:

1. It does contain a LOT of people, and some of them are very real. I found several people who I know. I searched by postal code (searching for myself) and discovered several of my neighbours there. I can confirm they are real names with their real addresses and real emails.

2. It does NOT contain any actual credit card numbers. It does contain a list of credit card transations--when payments were made, how much, along with real name and address data for the transaction. 9693860 transactions between 2008-03-21 and 2015-06-28 each with a real name and address.

3. Not mentioned in the media, it also has everybody's IP address stored so the fake account I used *does* have an IP address associated with it, that was probably linked to me all those years ago (not sure anyone could trace it NOW)

I'm going to delete the file now. I downloaded it because I wanted to know if I had any exposure, having had an account, but perusing the data it looks like I never paid anything, or if I did, the dump doesn't have my data. I never used the site much and I couldn't remember what I did or how I paid--but I'm good!

But a lot of people are not. A lot of people are totally blown. A *lot* of people.
 
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