Are Tamil's "Real Canadians"
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I DONT fly the flag ever because I think it's cliche to do so, although it's proudly and visibly stiched to my backpack when I travel abroad.Quest4Less said:
I NEVER cheer for canadian teams cause we suck at the sports I like to watch
I NEVER learned french but speak fluent english
I STILL harbour animosity with the japanese hardliners over the crimes they continually refuse to admit to that were committed in world war 2
And I wouldn't mind seeing a little more altruism instead of the self serving "me first nature" of western society, like in some parts of China.
4/5... I am chinese-canadian (or canadian-chinese if you insist) despite being born and raised here I am not canadian by this boards standards. It's ok for me to pay taxes fairly like the rest of you, but I am considered a second class citizen in every "canadians" eyes. I find it funny that we can close down the street to celebrate hockey but when an ethnic group closes down the street it becomes an issue of us vs them.
I guess the only time a visible minority is welcome to close the street down is if they plan on selling $4 samosas or meat of a stick. Any other time, screw off, even if it is to raise awareness of genocide (albeit in a highly stupid manner). If I'm a second class citizen, then please, give me a tax break. If I have to sit at the back of the bus, I should really only being paying 3/4 of the fare.
Sounds like your Canadian to me - as long as you don't tell me you hate Ice Hockey.1hornychinaman said:
Oh, and think that a lawful protest is both better and more likely to gain support than blocking a highway.
you sound like you've lived in Toronto since you were born, and I agree with your sentiment about so called "Canadians" in T.O.W3bster said:
oddly enough, when I went to Muskoka region, I felt really welcome there. sure it's more touristy up there, but it was way "whiter" than here in T.O., and they couldn't be more "Canadian". they treated me and my buddy (both Asians) well. of course they didn't pretend they didn't even notice were Asians! they acknowledge the difference, but without the prejudice. we didn't feel so forced to segregate like here.
there's definitely this fake Canadianness, very unique to Toronto, where everyone's soooooo tolerant and accepting of others while they don't really interact with each other except for when you are buying or selling stuff. I mean, people pretty much ignore each other like they don't even exist unless you "have to" work with each other. yes, I exaggerate a bit, but there's a fair amount of truth to it.
Canadianness needs to be more positively perceived, and I'd hate to see Canada lose its sovereignty to the North American Union (for now it's disguised as SPP, Security and Prosperity Partnership, be afraid, it's coming unless we all stand together to resist it). Canada is not a brother or a cousin of America. Canada stands on its own, tall and proud.
The BNA Act was more than just an evolution. It established, for the first time, a federal government, a bill of rights, a constitution; it granted the power to collect taxes and more independence than the remaining colonies.oldjones said:
It made the Dominion of Canada a very different entity than any of the founding provinces had been.
How does Afghanistan being a botch have anything to do with Darfur?Aardvark154 said:
Are you trying to make me say Canada was wrong to declare war in Germany in 1939? If not then what?
You'll have to actually respond to me or make a point yourself, to have a discussion. Your first presumption is—you asked for it—presumptous, the second preposterous, and you made them, not I.
Well, in governmental form the new Dominion could have been a clone of the governments of any of the pre-existing colonies, even of Québec.glaeken said:
You'd have to show me the "bill of rights" in the BNA Act, I don't recall coming across it in my reading. I also didn't read "more independence" anywhere, although that has been the story since, as we used the last century to evolve from Westminster appointing GGs, and running our foreign affairs, and the House of Lords adjudicating our last legal appeals.
Certainly it was necessary to delineate powers in the new federation and many have called that our constitution, but it left much more unwritten, established by precedent, tradition and common law in a process of evolution than, say the US Constitution (which as I recall, even spells out how fugitive slaves are to be returned). The business of defeating governments in confidence votes is still not a written part of the Constitution we have today, as just one instance. But it is certainly constitutional and binding. Our constiution was decidedly more than the BNA Act then, just as it's more than the Trudeau's constitution today.
But I can hardly dispute that a new entity did come into being that day, even if it was a copy of long-established models. Though I may choose to see it as a continuity, like a teenager taking another maturing step, rather than a new birth with everything yet to be learned as I understand 'founding' to mean, you're certainly welcome to see it as you wish. It's worth thinking about, and I compliment you for your thought.
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That is a valid appoach, but it does not make any sense, as the only countryAardvark154 said:
that could possibly invade Canada is the USA. As Canada would be totally
helpless in the event of an attack by the USA, it is a total waste of money
to maintain a military force.
Face it, Canada is a pimple on the ass of the USA. Every single pundit hereoldjones said:
and on TV and print cannot applaud Mulroney enough for the free trade agreement.
Although it may have been a tactical advantage in the short term, there is
a good chance that it strategically will prove to have been a mistake to
integrate our economy that close with the USA, instead of seeking trade
partners in Europe and in Asia.
I'd rather read French on my cereal box than how Wheaties™ 'honors our nation's hero, Michael Phelps'.
Like sin, the US is inescapable. But we can learn to live with it and even enjoy it. I would prefer we didn't have laws making us keep the door open for it, though.
I keep fantasizing about Montcalm winning at Québec. Much better bread, wine and coffee. And the Wheaties box would be in a foreign language.
Like sin, the US is inescapable. But we can learn to live with it and even enjoy it. I would prefer we didn't have laws making us keep the door open for it, though.
I keep fantasizing about Montcalm winning at Québec. Much better bread, wine and coffee. And the Wheaties box would be in a foreign language.
I think that learned scholars have written papers on the alternative scenario and have generally concluded that Quebec would be much less French to-day if Montcalm had won. Quebec, in the Montcalm won scenario, would much more closely resemble Louisiana and New England than it is in the Wolfe won reality. Quebec probably would been been bundled into the Lousiana Purchase package as France needed the money more than it needed a "blanket of snow".oldjones said:
Ooh, SkyRider, wouldn't that just serve me right. I guess I should make Napoleon win in Russia, then. No, damn, that was later.
I know, I'll have Adm. Hood hang about in the Chesapeake until the French fleet shows up, defeat them, Cornwallis wins at Yorktown … But wait, with Canada still French and an ally, Washington wouldn't have wasted his time invading north, would he? He'd have won even sooner. Won't work.
Unless …
The French, fresh from their wars on the Continent, simply muscle aside the squabbling colonials and their ineffective Minute Men in their little corner and take the whole continent for themselves from Hudson Bay to Havana. Yeah ! That's it! A small English minority might yet keep their language alive in Nouvelle Angleterre, like the Catalans in the Pyranees, or the Bretons.
The 1900 'Paris' Expo and Eiffel's Tower on the Toronto Islands, Picasso and the Surrealists in LA, Bardot on the Florida Riviera. And no Franco-Prussian War. Who could say, "non"?
Looks like no one still has a hate on about jaywalking Tamils, so maybe we can try to stay on serious topics.
I know, I'll have Adm. Hood hang about in the Chesapeake until the French fleet shows up, defeat them, Cornwallis wins at Yorktown … But wait, with Canada still French and an ally, Washington wouldn't have wasted his time invading north, would he? He'd have won even sooner. Won't work.
Unless …
The French, fresh from their wars on the Continent, simply muscle aside the squabbling colonials and their ineffective Minute Men in their little corner and take the whole continent for themselves from Hudson Bay to Havana. Yeah ! That's it! A small English minority might yet keep their language alive in Nouvelle Angleterre, like the Catalans in the Pyranees, or the Bretons.
The 1900 'Paris' Expo and Eiffel's Tower on the Toronto Islands, Picasso and the Surrealists in LA, Bardot on the Florida Riviera. And no Franco-Prussian War. Who could say, "non"?
Looks like no one still has a hate on about jaywalking Tamils, so maybe we can try to stay on serious topics.
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If you (and as you write the larger public) feel that Afghanistan which has real connection as an Al-Qaeda haven with terrorism in Europe and North America is not worth the lives of Canadian Troops. Then how on earth can anyone talk about how Darfur is worth a single Canadian life. And if that is true than is anything other than an attack on Canada proper worth a single Canadian life?oldjones said:
No, that wouldn’t have happened because the Revolution would never have happened - the French threat being too great. Canada and Louisiana would have been conquered during the Napoleonic Wars - but given the differences between Nouvelle France and Napoleonic France let alone Revolutionary France they might not be nearly so fixated over the idea of the conquest. Who knows what would have happened with westward expansion, but provided that would have happened, the U.S. would probably be a large and important Dominion country. Who knows if there even would be a “Canada” or whether it would have been grafted onto whatever the Seaboard Colonies would have become.oldjones said:
Then again would the French Revolution have taken place or would it have come sooner without the return of the French Sugar Islands by Great Britain in exchange for the French concession of Nouvelle France in the Peace Treaty.
"Revisionist Fantasy History" rapidly degenerates into a fool's paradise - because there are practically an innumerable number of variables.
