Are "Indys." less reliable/flaky?

Bambino

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I've been in town for 6 weeks. Seen a number of wonderful ladies. I thought I would support some of the Independent gals.
Here's what happened:
Malika Fantasy; no show
"Big Booty Bailey"; no show
Naomi Nixion; rescheduled last minute twice. At least she contacted me and let me know that she had emergent family issues.
So I thought I'd try Allegra; Called to schedule Lacy at noon. Never heard back. I called at 5 to find she is scheduled for incall, but will check to see if outcall is possible. Never heard back.
Back to the Agencies for me...Nice to know somebody is in control.
 
I wouldn't give up on indies. A lot of us are batting a perfect score with reliability. You've just had some unfortunate outcomes.
 
I find well reviewed independents to never be a problem. I believe I had one cancellation in many years. Notwithstanding, I have not attempted to see any of the people you mentioned.

I will only see independents.
 
indies are 1000% less reliable. especially when you first meet them through an agency. for some reason they become the biggest flakes once you see them as an indy. no accountability and poor time management skills.
 
Based from my experience, I find that well known agencies are very reliable. If there s a problem, they would often notify you about it. With some Independents, they are unreliable or untrustworthy.
 
Yes they're less reliable, and when an appt falls thru, there is nobody else to turn to. If there is a cancellation or no show at an agency, they can recommend other girls available or provide a discount on your next session.
 
I've had good success with many well liked indy's, but there have been a few last minute cancellations or mix ups. That's why they are indy's; it's up to them to reply to check this site for PM's, Twitter for DM's, emails, texts, etc. That is a full-time job in of itself especially when there are "tire kickers' out there asking dumb questions like "do you do XXX", "your rates are too high", etc. Agencies have paid staff to do these things, while indy's have to deal with life at the same time.

Every time I had a mix up with an indy they always offered to make amends.

It's no different than any other independent business owner like a financial adviser, real estate agent, lawyer, accountant, etc. Sometimes they get swamped and can't respond right away. As long as they make amends and do good work, I'm happy.
 
Pro's and Con's to each. Had an agency lady get locked out - thus canceled a 4 day ahead pre-booking as the other ladies were also booked out (they did make it up for future visit). Or one who didn't show and apologies by agency offered...but no compensation...or one agency who confirmed...at 945 am...then get a call back from same agency at 1010 saying she's had a visit from aunt flo...other ladies offered but I'm a bit particular....or..one who showed up an hour late (again, all pre-books at least 24-48 hours ahead).
But been lucky w indies, never had a big problem, there was a get sick or aunt flo issue now and then, in the early days a 'duo partner in the bathroom" issue (much more selective these days) but usually with a few hours of even a day ahead lead time to find someone else. I've usually stuck with well reviewed ladies and the indys (like Chloe above) have always been very conscientious bookers and appointment keepers...all within the margin of error (eg. they run late 10 mins or something). Moreover, when I've been stuck in traffic and 15 mins late they have always been forgiving (I do ring them and let them know I'm stuck on the Gardner listening to traffic reports lol)...
 
Since I've abandoned the U.S. (beginning in November 2015, I only hobby in Canada), I met several indys in Canada (Toronto and Montreal). All were professional, on time, and had excellent skills. But regardless of nationality, I've found that indys that were well reviewed possessed the aforementioned traits I ascribed to their cohorts in Canada. Any problems that I've had in the U.S., were typically with the agencies, i.e., girl showing up late/not at all/ or not the one requested, too much photoshop with the images, someone wanting to use "the restroom" and hearing snorting sounds through the door, etc.

So I'm an indy guy. BUTTTTT I may give it a try in Canada. Just haven't made up my mind.
 
I used to be an indy-only guy, but have expanded to include a few select agency ladies. My overall experience with indies has been excellent. No "flake" issues. That could be due to a fair amount of research I did prior to making the call, so I was picking ladies with a good reputation. There have been a few indies more recently to whom I reached out and never got any response, so I figured if they couldn't be bothered then neither should I.

Guess they don't make 'em like they used to... :)
 
You have had more indy trouble posted here than I have experienced in total since 2008. And I hobby a lot.

I've been in town for 6 weeks. Seen a number of wonderful ladies. I thought I would support some of the Independent gals.
Here's what happened:
Malika Fantasy; no show
"Big Booty Bailey"; no show
Naomi Nixion; rescheduled last minute twice. At least she contacted me and let me know that she had emergent family issues.
So I thought I'd try Allegra; Called to schedule Lacy at noon. Never heard back. I called at 5 to find she is scheduled for incall, but will check to see if outcall is possible. Never heard back.
Back to the Agencies for me...Nice to know somebody is in control.
 
Its odd because what you are saying is the polar-opposite of what I hear from hobbyists. And what I've seen and experienced myself in agencies. The hobbyists I've met who discussed this, told me that they specifically go to indies in part because of punctuality and reliability. A girl working for an agency doesn't care about her rep as much as an indy does. Anything I do reflects upon nobody but ME. If I screw up, its on me. With agency's blame is shared and nobody knows whos fault is whos. Furthermore, clients used to arrive all the time saying things like, 'So how was supper' and I'm like what? 'They said you were eating supper and that's why I had to wait 15min after I arrived...' No, its because they texted me mid-way through an aptmt they knew I was in to tell me to kick the guy out asap because I had one 5min after this one is scheduled to end. I of course, refused and pointed out that I not only need a nice shower and to get dolled up again but I need time to unwind. I'm sorry you had such awful experiences (assuming its true, I'm not denying you, I simply don't know you and knowing the possibilities, I take things with a grain of salt. My skepticism is not personal, but general) but it is in no way the norm and it wouldn't make sense that it would be. If this was regular practice of indies, we wouldn't stay around long. It would be like agencies, a revolving door. Girls would advertise, get a slew of bad reviews for unreliability and tardiness, not be able to book anymore while everyone is trying out the new girl. Our reputations make or break us. Those who aren't reliable, are outted and no longer do well. My advice, do your homework, check out reviews and recommendations and go from there. Yes, I do know of some indies with this rep... and that rep is well known and they aren't doing too well.

Also.. I cant help but take a bit of small offense to what you are saying, although you may not realize that this could be drawn from your statement. By saying "Back to the Agencies for me...Nice to know somebody is in control. " you are suggesting that a woman needs to be 'controlled' by someone, be it an agency or a pimp, in order to be reliable. I'm no hardcore feminist, I embrace the differences between men and women and how we compliment each other, a statement like this is... do I really have to say? I'm in control of myself thank you and the only time things aren't in control is when I have someone messing with my business. My reputation is great since going indie... the few things that were complained about before with me, which were that I was a clock watcher and that my cel kept buzzing and I had to answer certain ones, were all because of the agency insisting upon both. Since going indie, the opposite is said, 'Shes no clock watcher' being repeated and no cel complaints. I know this to be true about other girls who had left agencies and gone indie so... I don't know, your experience and statements seem strange to me. If this is genuine, I wish you better luck in future. I don't know the reps of the girls you mentioned so I cant comment but do your homework and I'm sure you will be happy with a good indie and not have to deal with the many cons of dealing with an agency. I have nothing against agencies, my comments are only out of surprise hearing that what I know as the PROs of seeing indies are the CONS for the first time.

Well, have a good day everyone.
 
Indy SP's are fine as long as you do your research. In fact, for whatever reason, my best experiences have been with Indy's. However, if you are acting on impulse and want to book a lady on short notice without poring over reviews, you have a better shot at a good experience if you book through an agency.

Generally speaking, there are fewer things that are likely to go wrong with an agency vs an indy as there is a built-in quality control process at agencies. Agencies will not hire unattractive ladies in the first place and will eventually fire ladies who are flaky, disorganized, or otherwise provide poor service. Many (not all) indies are sp's who for one reason or another could not cut it at an agency.

If you wanna play Backpage Roulette then you take your chances.
 
This is my own personal success ratio and I'm not saying it's the norm. . .
Indies: 25%, Agencies 80%
My last 2 Indy bookings : 1) " I have to cancel because I just got into an accident on the Gardiner", 2) " I have to cancel because I just contracted food poisoining" ( 15 minutes prior )
I believed the first situation since I've seen them 25+ times, the second I cry B.S. , I'm certain since I spoke to them 30 minutes prior ( I got double booked or extended by a "whale").
Volume indys are the worst, they don't care about repeat clientele and just go for the volume. They rarely even remember your name and if they're busy, they don't even bother to get back to you.
I book with agencies more because I personally have better luck, I"m not saying everyone does.
 
I mainly see indies and the couple times that I had a date cancelled, they let me know in advance.
 
You are less likely to get your time wasted. Indys are gnerally higher standard than the random BP girl, but they flake like anyone else. I remember I set a time up with someone name becky, and she flaked. I didnt care so much until she denied even setting up the appointment to save face.
 
I've had more issues with agencies than indies. (with the exclusion of Cupids as Jillian runs a tight ship and could give lessons to any business leaders) I may be biased now, since I haven't contacted an agency in over 2 years.

The difference with indies is that you need to build a connection before meeting. And if you just want to order your ladies then the likelyhood of a bad experience is higher. Introduce yourself like you would to any beautiful woman in a bar. Once you have this relationship, then you can experience true GFE.