Are Baseball Players Soft?
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your two cents worth is overvaluedCareful there, mur11, you might be opening up a Padora's Box criticizing LashLarue's spelling.
Provide some value or get lost
You negated your own statement. It is your opinion about Pedroia.
I noticed you still haven't answered: Do you think any player could properly bat wearing a cast for a broken thumb? Not a lame example at all. Yes or no.
Just saw this. So your answer is no. He could not bat. He is not on the DL because he is soft. It is because he can not perform the functions required of him.
An NFL lineman can and does play with broken digits. Thank you for finally agreeing with my point, that similar injuries in different sports have differing degrees of impact regardless of toughness/softness. Finally.
BTW, that was a really lame answer. You tried to duck because you know you were cornered. Game, set and match. (Yes, tennis is an actual sport--another one of your statements that I put to rest.)
Game set and match ???
I do not think so
again you try to twist my words - please cut that out and stick to facts
I did not agree with your post
Lets see if you will again try and twist logic
Since the soft baseball player is on the DL, we can not say with 100% certainty that he can not perform the functions required of him ,because you can not observe the soft ball player attempt those functions.
The guy may be able to hammer that ball out of the park, even wearing a cast, but we will never know as the delicate thing is not in the game
At no point did I state
That was your statement and I have neither agreed with or refuted this statement, thus far.
Please do not infer what I may or may not agree to. That is annoying and shows weakness in a debate
I suspect you grow tired and frustrated of having your idols proven soft
As long as we are checking facts, please specify the post # where I mentioned tennis at all?
I will save you the effort, you are confusing me with someone else
Baseball is a wonderful game to watch and I thoroughly enjoyed this years playoffs
The ball players are unique in having a skill set of, speed, power, quick reactions and the ability to play the cat and mouse game between picture and hitter
There are a huge number of other complementary adjectives which can be used to describe they guys (ask Joe Buck and you get a list of hundreds), but relative to the NBA, NHL and NFL (and a number of other sports), baseball players are a lot closer to Charmin, than sandpaper
Everybody can see you are avoiding anwsering a simple question. Whether or not he is on the DL, do you think he could physically swing the bat properly?JohnLarue;4726521Since the soft baseball player is on the DL said:
The pain from the injury will be gone after a week, so toughness is not a factor. Why is he still on the DL? Not because he is hurting. Not because he is soft. It is because he cannot swing the bat. Same with a broken index finger which doesn't require a cast, just a splint.
The lineman can play with a broken finger. He can tackle. He can block. This example has nothing to do with toughness. Only if the player can perform his duties.
Do you, or do you not agree?
Actually, you've proven nothing except repeatedly saying they are soft and they could not play in the other leagues. You've provided no proof aside from it being your opinion.
I stand corrected. It was demien. Apologies
Again, all you are giving, is your opinion. You've given no proof. We've given examples of players being proficient over long periods of time in multiple sports. What examples have you given that discredit this. None, except to say they don't count.
I've demonstrated reasons why baseball players sit out with certain injuries that football players can play through, that have nothing to do with toughness. You cannot counter that except to say I am wrong or that you haven't commented on it yet. I'd like to hear your comment, in that case. If you don't comment, my only assumption is that you have nothing valid to counter with. We are debating, and the goal is usually to prove your point. If you had a valid rebuttal, I imagine you'd use it.
Calling one Charmin and the other sandpaper proves nothing.
I admit proving either point is very difficult.
I do feel, however, that I've at least provided points with more substance/real life examples etc. than you have. If I've missed those points please refresh my memory.
I hope you're not suggesting that Cricket players are soft. In a Test match, they can play for five consecutive days, seven hours per day. Among fielders, only the wicket keeper can wear gloves. In baseball, the batter charges the mound and incites a bench clearing brawl if a pitcher throws a ball near his head. In cricket, the bowler can only hit the batsmen in the head once every six deliveries, or the batting side gets a penalty run, and the bowler has to make an extra delivery.
Heard on TV to-day that chess is considered a sport.
Question: Are chess players soft? Can a chess player still perform if he or she has a blister on their movement hand?
Question: Are chess players soft? Can a chess player still perform if he or she has a blister on their movement hand?
If he is tough enough, yes
Since he is a baseball player he does not have to
That is sufficient in and of its self
Baseball players are not tough enough to play in the other leagues
These are one offs
The average baseball player would get broken in two in the other three major league sports
I was away for a little while
The reasons baseball players sit out with certain injuries that other pro athletes play through has to with the culture of each sport
Football players are expected to tough it out and play (same with hockey and basketball)
Baseball players have been conditioned over the last 100 years that they are too valuable over the long run and should instead rest and get better.
They have not been conditioned by their sports culture to suck it up, butter cup
sounds good though !
It is a good analogue
mmm, you claimed yourself a winner, remember game, set & match?
now you say it is difficult to prove
Please see above
Ludicrous. If possible, you are even lower on the credibility scale with that one. It's like saying a goalie can play with a blindfold, if he's tough enough.
Examples have already been given of that being false. Your failure to accept that is your problem.
Your opinion. Danny Ainge? Deion Sanders?
It is neither a good analogue or even good analogy.Try digital next time.
In spite of the difficulty, your lack of examples or proof made it easier than expected.
Does anyone remember Chris Brown, the one-time all-star, (San Francisco Giants, 1986), who was out of baseball by 1989? He was the guy who couldn't play because of a "bruised tooth root". He was cut by the Detroit Tigers in 1989, shortly after missing a game because he "slept on his eye wrong."
Probably not a lot of argument that Pittsburgh Steelers All-Pro safety Troy Polamalu is tough, correct?
(Emphasis below is mine)
From Dan Patrick's interview in Sports Illustrated, April 4, 2011, Dan asks Troy a few questions......
DP 'Where are you right now?'
TP 'I'm down at Minnesota Twins spring training.'
DP 'Are you taking batting practice?'
TP 'No, I haven't fully healed from my Achilles injury. I don't know if it'd be a good idea to make it worse by doing BP.'
DP 'Is there a baseball player out there that you think could play in the NFL?'
TP 'There are a lot of great 2-sport athletes.
Joe Mauer was a player of the year in football & baseball.
Someone like him could have been just as successful as a quarterback in the NFL.
He made the smart decision because he's got a job right now.'
DP 'Are you officially unemployed?'
TP 'Yes, I'm looking for work. It sucks that I wasn't able to take batting practice today. I hoped I'd get lucky enough to hit one out of the ballpark and maybe get a one-day contract.'
The interview goes on, and amongst other things, DP and TP discuss Dancing with the Stars, Hines Ward's footwork, and how TP is probably the worst dancer on the Steelers.
(Emphasis below is mine)
From Dan Patrick's interview in Sports Illustrated, April 4, 2011, Dan asks Troy a few questions......
DP 'Where are you right now?'
TP 'I'm down at Minnesota Twins spring training.'
DP 'Are you taking batting practice?'
TP 'No, I haven't fully healed from my Achilles injury. I don't know if it'd be a good idea to make it worse by doing BP.'
DP 'Is there a baseball player out there that you think could play in the NFL?'
TP 'There are a lot of great 2-sport athletes.
Joe Mauer was a player of the year in football & baseball.
Someone like him could have been just as successful as a quarterback in the NFL.
He made the smart decision because he's got a job right now.'
DP 'Are you officially unemployed?'
TP 'Yes, I'm looking for work. It sucks that I wasn't able to take batting practice today. I hoped I'd get lucky enough to hit one out of the ballpark and maybe get a one-day contract.'
The interview goes on, and amongst other things, DP and TP discuss Dancing with the Stars, Hines Ward's footwork, and how TP is probably the worst dancer on the Steelers.
What a pussy. It's only BP so he doesn't even have to run. It's only swinging a bat. How can that be so difficult?
BTW, Troy knows less than the TERB experts.
